[dieterbrock]

I was thinking the delay was based on the FAA final decision. They do kinda need to know how deep to dig right?
Otherwise, seems fishy to me. Going from shovel ready in December to waiting until June is a big stretch

[Stranger]

There are two different stories... there is (1) what's really happening on the ground: and then there is the (2) PR narrative that the public is told.

I'd say the NFL is working up the PR Narrative for the next 2yrs right now. That the deal has already been struck, and real plan in place. Now, how they go about implementing that plan is a very different animal.

Hence, they won't really delay. But they'll tell everything they are delaying to keep SD Gov't in play.

[max]

I don't like the delay either but I doubt it's due to the FAA delaying the start. The FAA may delay the roof, but not the start.

I have no idea what the delay is all about, but the fact that its now being reported that the project may cost $2.66B has to be part of whats going on.

[Hacksaw]

There are two different stories... there is (1) what's really happening on the ground: and then there is the (2) PR narrative that the public is told.

I'd say the NFL is working up the PR Narrative for the next 2yrs right now. That the deal has already been struck, and real plan in place. Now, how they go about implementing that plan is a very different animal.

Hence, they won't really delay. But they'll tell everything they are delaying to keep SD Gov't in play.

I hope you're right bro. This last minute stuff is definitely not as is being told so hard to argue your point.
The only thing I can see from this perspective is that ESK is playing nice in order to get LA all alone. By keeping Carson alive for another 6 months it will help keep the screws to SD ( although one would think that CoC's open locker room would be enough), which in turn might get their vote passed to build there.
It is a bit of a gamble though and I don't see ESK letting Carson actually become something and catch up more if not given the nod to move his team this year.

[Hacksaw]

I don't like the delay either but I doubt it's due to the FAA delaying the start. The FAA may delay the roof, but not the start.

I have no idea what the delay is all about, but the fact that its now being reported that the project may cost $2.66B has to be part of whats going on.

That $# would have come from the Rams. Why do that now?
It makes the reality of cost overruns a bit more obvious.
It put's the CoC project above Carson from a $$ standpoint.
It also shows ESK fallible in his calculations.

max, the roof elevation could be the only FAA related item that could delay the construction. The construction materials or reflective coatings, no.

[max]

There are two different stories... there is (1) what's really happening on the ground: and then there is the (2) PR narrative that the public is told.

I'd say the NFL is working up the PR Narrative for the next 2yrs right now. That the deal has already been struck, and real plan in place. Now, how they go about implementing that plan is a very different animal.

Hence, they won't really delay. But they'll tell everything they are delaying to keep SD Gov't in play.

I hope you're right bro. This last minute stuff is definitely not as is being told so hard to argue your point.
The only thing I can see from this perspective is that ESK is playing nice in order to get LA all alone. By keeping Carson alive for another 6 months it will help keep the screws to SD ( although one would think that CoC's open locker room would be enough), which in turn might get their vote passed to build there.
It is a bit of a gamble though and I don't see ESK letting Carson actually become something and catch up more if not given the nod to move his team this year.

There is so little out there on Carson it would a bolt from the blue (pardon the pun) if it got the nod.

[Hacksaw]

There is so little out there on Carson it would a bolt from the blue (pardon the pun) if it got the nod.

I think it's about keeping the perception alive but they could actually do something in that time frame. Either way, ESK could be playing nice again. Could be part of the bargain. Stan you wait to see if I get my vote passed,, if not I'll come on terms x,y,z. Otherwise I'm all in on Carson.

[Stranger]

There are two different stories... there is (1) what's really happening on the ground: and then there is the (2) PR narrative that the public is told.

I'd say the NFL is working up the PR Narrative for the next 2yrs right now. That the deal has already been struck, and real plan in place. Now, how they go about implementing that plan is a very different animal.

Hence, they won't really delay. But they'll tell everything they are delaying to keep SD Gov't in play.

I hope you're right bro. This last minute stuff is definitely not as is being told so hard to argue your point.
The only thing I can see from this perspective is that ESK is playing nice in order to get LA all alone. By keeping Carson alive for another 6 months it will help keep the screws to SD ( although one would think that CoC's open locker room would be enough), which in turn might get their vote passed to build there.
It is a bit of a gamble though and I don't see ESK letting Carson actually become something and catch up more if not given the nod to move his team this year.

The purpose of the PR delay is to keep the downtown SD stadium alive. Remember, it's just a delay for the media, public and negotations. It's not real.

[Hacksaw]

There are two different stories... there is (1) what's really happening on the ground: and then there is the (2) PR narrative that the public is told.

I'd say the NFL is working up the PR Narrative for the next 2yrs right now. That the deal has already been struck, and real plan in place. Now, how they go about implementing that plan is a very different animal.

Hence, they won't really delay. But they'll tell everything they are delaying to keep SD Gov't in play.

I hope you're right bro. This last minute stuff is definitely not as is being told so hard to argue your point.
The only thing I can see from this perspective is that ESK is playing nice in order to get LA all alone. By keeping Carson alive for another 6 months it will help keep the screws to SD ( although one would think that CoC's open locker room would be enough), which in turn might get their vote passed to build there.
It is a bit of a gamble though and I don't see ESK letting Carson actually become something and catch up more if not given the nod to move his team this year.

The purpose of the PR delay is to keep the downtown SD stadium alive. Remember, it's just a delay for the media, public and negotations. It's not real.

I get what you are saying about the perception thing. What I don't get is what Stan building in LA has to do with downtown SD if Spanos isn't tied to Inglewood? CoC being built only hurts Carson funding which in turn weakens Spanos' leverage in SD right? So to that point I see this more about keeping the Carson perception alive until they vote in SD. Of course I really don't know squat.

[Stranger]

I hope you're right bro. This last minute stuff is definitely not as is being told so hard to argue your point.
The only thing I can see from this perspective is that ESK is playing nice in order to get LA all alone. By keeping Carson alive for another 6 months it will help keep the screws to SD ( although one would think that CoC's open locker room would be enough), which in turn might get their vote passed to build there.
It is a bit of a gamble though and I don't see ESK letting Carson actually become something and catch up more if not given the nod to move his team this year.

The purpose of the PR delay is to keep the downtown SD stadium alive. Remember, it's just a delay for the media, public and negotations. It's not real.

I get what you are saying about the perception thing. What I don't get is what Stan building in LA has to do with downtown SD if Spanos isn't tied to Inglewood? CoC being built only hurts Carson funding which in turn weakens Spanos' leverage in SD right? So to that point I see this more about keeping the Carson perception alive until they vote in SD. Of course I really don't know squat.

Spanos will be approved this week to move into Inglewood, but only when the stadium is ready. Perhaps they'll say Spanos doesn't have to committ until project starts, which will give him time to negotiate with SD.

So, Spanos gets LA if SD doesn't work out. But NFL & Spanos have big stick, with hard end date, to waive at SD Gov.