157 posts
  • 3 / 16
  • 1
  • 3
  • 16
 by Hacksaw
4 years 6 months ago
 Total posts:   24523  
 Joined:  Apr 15 2015
United States of America   AT THE BEACH
Moderator

max wrote:I think he was drunk. He went in with a canned narrative to bash Goff and was lazy.
A can of Stout.

 by moklerman
4 years 6 months ago
 Total posts:   7680  
 Joined:  Apr 17 2015
United States of America   Bakersfield, CA
Hall of Fame

max wrote:Spot on post. Good stuff about the sensitivity of passer rating to small sample size. Made perfect sense for McVay let the D eat. I thought Aikman was way off on his comments, I think he was drunk. He went in with a canned narrative to bash Goff and was lazy.
Why do you suppose Aikman was out to get Goff? Since the Rams have returned to LA, he's been one of the few national level guys to consistently be on the Rams side.

 by max
4 years 6 months ago
 Total posts:   5714  
 Joined:  Jun 01 2015
United States of America   Sarasota, FL
Hall of Fame

moklerman wrote:Why do you suppose Aikman was out to get Goff? Since the Rams have returned to LA, he's been one of the few national level guys to consistently be on the Rams side.


I don’t know. You’ll have to ask his psychiatrist. From the opening kickoff, Aikman sounded like a patriots team announcer. I thought I was listening to a Boston station. Maybe Snead didn’t pickup Aikman's bar bill Wednesday night.

 by sloramfan
4 years 6 months ago
 Total posts:   1581  
 Joined:  Jun 09 2015
United States of America   cen coast cal
Pro Bowl

goff haters..go suck ass

we are lucky to have him...period

i'm so tired of this argument...

but i'm not so tired of constantly winning this argument...

go jared goff

go rams

slo

 by max
4 years 6 months ago
 Total posts:   5714  
 Joined:  Jun 01 2015
United States of America   Sarasota, FL
Hall of Fame

sloramfan wrote:goff haters..go suck ass

we are lucky to have him...period

i'm so tired of this argument...

but i'm not so tired of constantly winning this argument...

go jared goff

go rams

slo


Eloquently put.

 by PARAM
4 years 6 months ago
 Total posts:   13219  
 Joined:  Jul 15 2015
Barbados   Just far enough North of Philadelphia
Hall of Fame

max wrote:From the opening kickoff, Aikman sounded like a patriots team announcer. I thought I was listening to a Boston station.


Maybe because New England was expected to win, at least in the minds of those "experts" who cover the NFL. Goff was expected to wilt under the pressure from an intricate scheme Belichick designed to expose his lack of decision making prowess. So if that's what you're expecting, then you are going to slant your commentary that way, perhaps even unintentionally. Or in some cases, intentionally just to show the viewer you're smarter than them. :D

 by max
4 years 6 months ago
 Total posts:   5714  
 Joined:  Jun 01 2015
United States of America   Sarasota, FL
Hall of Fame

PARAM wrote:Maybe because New England was expected to win, at least in the minds of those "experts" who cover the NFL. Goff was expected to wilt under the pressure from an intricate scheme Belichick designed to expose his lack of decision making prowess. So if that's what you're expecting, then you are going to slant your commentary that way, perhaps even unintentionally. Or in some cases, intentionally just to show the viewer you're smarter than them. :D


True enough.

Maybe we shouldn’t be so hard on them. After all, even some Rams fans panned Goff on his game cause he didn’t shine against Belichick. The same Belichick who made Herbert look like a bust draft pick and confused the hell out of Murray the previous 2 weeks.

Reminds me of when I was a lifeguard as a teen. Little kid was drowning at the beach, his grandmother was screaming, “my grandson, my grandson!” I pulled the kid out of the water, and he was fine. And the grandmother looks at me and says, “where’s his hat, he had a hat?”

 by aeneas1
4 years 6 months ago
 Total posts:   16894  
 Joined:  Sep 13 2015
United States of America   Norcal
Hall of Fame

Dick84 wrote:I apologize for being rational. :)

Your clip from the 4th Q that shows Goff throwing it multiple times in one drive would seem to dispel the "trust" thing.. but, hey.. that's just me misreading the situation. Obviously, McVay doesn't trust him but felt there was no other way to win the game at that point.

you mean the clip that shows goff throwing multiple times from deep within the rams end of the field, throwing 15+ yard digs and outs, in the middle of the 4th quarter? iirc mcvay was asked about that in the post-game presser, he said that he lost track of the quarters and at the time was certain that it was the first quarter, "goff's safe quarter" as he put it, said he would do better next game.

btw, after goff completed a 14 yard pass on 3rd and 12 to keep the second drive of the game alive, that led to 3 points and a quick 10-0 lead, it was great to hear aikman and buck mention that goff ranked 2nd in % of passes completed for a 1st down this season, second only to mahomes, and how goff ranks 4th among all qbs in this stat since mvay's arrival.... oh wait. :roll2:

 by max
4 years 6 months ago
 Total posts:   5714  
 Joined:  Jun 01 2015
United States of America   Sarasota, FL
Hall of Fame

aeneas1 wrote:you mean the clip that shows goff throwing multiple times from deep within the rams end of the field, throwing 15+ yard digs and outs, in the middle of the 4th quarter? iirc mcvay was asked about that in the post-game presser, he said that he lost track of the quarters and at the time was certain that it was the first quarter, "goff's safe quarter" as he put it, said he would do better next game.

btw, after goff completed a 14 yard pass on 3rd and 12 to keep the second drive of the game alive, that led to 3 points and a quick 10-0 lead, it was great to hear aikman and buck mention that goff ranked 2nd in % of passes completed for a 1st down this season, second only to mahomes, and how goff ranks 4th among all qbs in this stat since mvay's arrival.... oh wait. :roll2:


More Magic with numbers by a1. Maybe you can explain how Goffs 24th ranked passer rating is actually good. :lol2:

 by /zn/
4 years 6 months ago
 Total posts:   6942  
 Joined:  Jun 28 2015
United States of America   Maine
Hall of Fame

max wrote:More Magic with numbers by a1. Maybe you can explain how Goffs 24th ranked passer rating is actually good. :lol2:


What it is, actually, is a distortion.

It's weighted by the 3 bad games.

If you believe he's going to have another bad game like those 3, then, the avg. qb rating WITH those 3 games will sound accurate to you.

If you DON'T believe he's going to have another bad game like those 3 then, he is more likely to play like his average in the other 10 games--which is a qb rating of 100.65, which would rank 10th.

I believe that both Goff and McVay have learned enough from the 3 bad games so that no, we will not see another one.

Meanwhile this season the Rams played 6 defenses that are ranked top 12 in offensive points allowed (Miami, New England, Washington, Giants, Chicago, Tampa) and they went 5-1 in those games.

Do you do that with the 24th ranked qb? Or, as I said, is he more likely to play like the 10th ranked qb, which is what he did in the other 10 games not the 3 bad ones?

It all depends on whether you believe the 3 bad games are indicative or are a bad patch they got over and won’t repeat.
....

  • 3 / 16
  • 1
  • 3
  • 16
157 posts Jul 08 2025