[LFMako]

So I was watching The McVay Show with JB Long and Demarco. That man can talk a lot without saying much.

What I found really interesting was when JB Long ask McVay about how similar they (Stafford and McVay) seemed to be - and asked McVay for his thoughts - after blah blah blah about how Stafford is just amazing he dropped the nugget along the lines of " it was just fun to have him run off the field , telling me what he was seeing rather than sitting down with a Surface"

I remember a lot of Goff shots on the TV after something went wrong where he was just sitting on the bench , looking at the surface.

My take - Goff didn't have the experience to know what happened while Stafford was able to communicate it immediately ( and even though it was only one game - Stafford seemed to know what the D was trying to do and what he was supposed to do.)

[BuiltRamTough]

Goff looked like a rookie in the Miami and San Fran game from last year. It
was embarrassing.

[SolarRam]

Goff didn't have the football IQ to communicate or understand what the defense was doing to tell McV what was happening. Goff is a one read QB that looks for his first read option. If he doesn't have an elite QB behind him to mask his deficiencies, his team is going to struggle. Coaching and game planning can neutralize Goff's strengths. He's got a great arm, but his football IQ is below average. Thank god he's gone. Whew!

[CanuckRightWinger]

IMHO, to Goff-bashers like me, Jared Goff's Pick6, just before HalfTime, sealed Detroit fortunes last Sunday. After that Pick6, it was pretty obvious who was winning that game.

Pro-Goff guys will point to his magnificent comeback making it close in the end.

I guess we'll see how the 2021 season will play out for Mr. Goff on the NFL stats sheets.
One thing for sure though about Goff in 2021......his financial balance sheets are in very rosy territory, with all that Enos Stan Kroenke dinero in Goff's Bank Account.

I used to chide our Jared Goff in past posts about how he would lackadaisically jog off the field after a Goff Pick or Turnover, and just go to the end of the bench with his tablet, displaying all of the fire and inspirational leadership of Jimmy MalaiseForever! Carter.
I will look for that Sean McVay interview with the "Goff surface" comment in the Ram videos.

[PARAM]

I think it was clear on Sunday, what the Rams offense was missing. Two (2) pass plays of 50 yards + from Stafford and the offense. Last year, in 16 games, we had two (2) pass plays of 50 yards or more. Hell, Akers alone had a 61 yard run last year. If we look at player's personal "longs" in 2020.....

Akers had a 61 yard run.
Woods had a 56 yard catch
Kupp had a 55 yard catch
Higbee had a 44 yard catch
Henderson had a 40 yard run
Woods had a 40 yard run
Everett had a 40 yard catch
Reynolds had a 40 yard catch

In one week we had 2/5's of the "big pass plays" we had all of 2020.

Let's be fair. Goff was not a bum. He wasn't Case Keenum. He wasn't Nick Foles. He wasn't Sam Bradford. He was better. Like Colin Cowherd was saying just yesterday....or was it today....(paraphrasing) "Goff was a good QB. You can win with him. But to win consistently in the postseason or to win a Superbowl (by first getting to one), you have to have some quick scores. Some cheap scores. And that is why McVay unhitched his wagon from Goff and hitched it to Matt Stafford."

This is a guy who can make ALL the throws, read all the coverages, anticipate quickly and put a pass in a small area for a big play (Woods TD comes to mind). So with Goff under center, McVay got the most out of him he possibly could. 43-21 (42-20 really), a few postseason wins and Superbowl appearance. That is probably the pinnacle of Jared Goff's career. We can argue the minutia of whether communication was a problem or not but the bottom line is McVay maxed out his QB.

Now, he's got a legit NFL stud. A QB capable of winning a Superbowl (with the right guys around him....most of the same guys Goff had). I know the Bears game was only 1 game. Week 1 of a 17 game marathon. There will be losses. There will be "WTF was that"'s! But by and large I think we're in very capable hands and those hands are under Brian Allen's ass.

[CanuckRightWinger]

Agree that Goff wasn't a 100% bum....
But, then AGAIN, Goff WAS paid like a 100% NFL Superstar...(unlike Case Keenum)
...& GOFF CERTAINLY WASN'T A NFL SUPERSTAR.............WAS HE?

So some guys want to protect, within Ramsnation, the PerpetualIllustriousnessStatusState (PISS) of one Jared Goff, eh?
What do I care?

To me, Goff will always be Sam Bradford .....but with better hair! That's all Jared Goff will ever be to me!
I hope, as I posted before, that he totally bombs in Detroit!
No apologies from me, to a guy with $100 Million banked of Enos Stan Kroenke's greenbacks, kapeesh!!

To again paraphrase/quote the late great Dennis Green:

SO, IF YOU WANT TO CROWN GOFF'S ASS....THEN CROWN HIS ASS...BUT GOFF WAS, WHAT I ALWAYS THOUGHT HE WAS!!!
......AND WE OVERPAID THE LITTLE PISCHER!!!"

....oh yeah....and tell me again, how the above makes me such a bitter & twisted person!

See IMO, Sean McVay figured out what Goff was, and shuffled him off to the Armpit of the Great Lakes Region....DETROIT! Does that make Rams HC McVay a bitter & twisted person too??!!
I certainly don't think Sean McVay is a bitter & twisted person!

[/zn/]

Goff looked like a rookie in the Miami and San Fran game from last year. It
was embarrassing.

Yeah he had a few bad games (btw so did Stafford in his 5th year). But if that;s all you saw you didn't see Goff. He also had good games. Such as when they beat Tampa on the road without being able to run that day and throwing 51 times. Goff was inconsistent in 2020 and to be honest, I think McV being a too abrasive qb coach didn't help.

The overly negative hyperbole about Goff comes from acting as if the bad games were the only ones he played. Wentz crashed and played badly in 2020--that's not what happened with Goff, who was inconsistent. While it's not ideal by any means being inconsistent is not the same thing as a bad Wentz. And even then they fixed some of it with Goff. After the Miami game other teams tried the same kind of defensive attack and the result was that at the end of the season Goff ranked highly against the blitz.

I don't even believe the "must throw long" argument because obviously a lot of qbs have done well, including superbowl wins, without that factor. Still, it's what McV wanted, so he needed a guy who could do what he envisions. If the marriage between a qb and a winning coach breaks, it's the qb who leaves.

Obviously none of this takes anything away from Stafford, who is a smart and savvy 13 year vet, someone McV will listen to, and a qb who has been there done that and seen it all. Stafford is a good qb and I am glad they have him.

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[PARAM]

What do I care?

A LOT, apparently!!! Multiple posts in the last week or so on a guy who's 'allegedly' "dead to you" and "no longer a Ram".

Me doth think he protest too much.

BUT GOFF WAS, WHAT I ALWAYS THOUGHT HE WAS!!!

Always? Always? A bit of revisionist history there, eh? Who exactly are you trying to convince?

Hell hath no fury........

[CanuckRightWinger]

PA protests remind me of an old Indian joke:

Geronimo: Hey Sitting Bull, what your wife's name?
Sitting Bull: Me call her "Three Horse"
Geronimo: What kind of stupid name is that, Three Horse???!!
Sitting Bull: NAG NAG NAG!!!!

[ziggy]

Yup the Goff conversation is over for me. He got us to the Super Bowl. He got paid a pile of cash. He’s got a beautiful fiance.

I wish him well in Detroit and unless he’s playing against the Rams or does the Rams dirty— I want him to succeed.