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 by Ramsdude
4 years 11 months ago
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United States of America   Pa.
Pro Bowl

moklerman wrote:I think you're missing the point. And the scandal in Washington does involve protecting players who have been bad boys according to the link(s) being posted. Not just them but it does involve players.

The players at strip clubs was just an example of the activity that goes on that doesn't usually see the light of day. There is probably a LOT more that goes on behind closed doors and I'd say most NFL teams don't want that stuff getting out.


North Dallas Forty might now be South Washington Thirty lol




 by St. Loser Fan
4 years 11 months ago
 Total posts:   10889  
 Joined:  May 31 2016
United States of America   Saint Louis MO
Hall of Fame

Did Snyder know something was coming?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2 ... than-ever/

Compounding this indecision is the fact that Snyder has been out of the country for most of the past three months, spending the pandemic’s early weeks in the Bahamas, briefly returning to Maryland and then heading to Europe, where his latest deliberations about the team name have taken place, multiple people familiar with his movements said. Though Snyder has been described as very active in business deliberations, the fact that he has not been physically closer to the team’s facility as it slowly reopens has added to the sense of a leadership void.

 by moklerman
4 years 11 months ago
 Total posts:   7680  
 Joined:  Apr 17 2015
United States of America   Bakersfield, CA
Hall of Fame

Elvis wrote:If the story is players are living large, partying, going to strip clubs, not doing anything illegal, that's not a story...
Well, that isn't the story. Going to a strip club isn't illegal but that wasn't the point. It's that these guys are doing things that don't fit into the squeaky clean image that the leagues try to project. With the strip club example, that's just a tip of the iceberg example. Maybe that's all they do. Politely go to the club and buy some drinks. But does that seem likely? I mean, my buddy saw them in the club where the public was allowed but I think it would be naive to think that these guys who like to party and have millions of dollars, stopped at some non-alcoholic beverages and loud music. Some might, but let's be real, here.

 by AvengerRam
4 years 11 months ago
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 Joined:  Oct 03 2017
Israel   Lake Mary, Florida
Hall of Fame

The more they delay the release of this story, the less interested I become.

 by moklerman
4 years 11 months ago
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 Joined:  Apr 17 2015
United States of America   Bakersfield, CA
Hall of Fame

AvengerRam wrote:The more they delay the release of this story, the less interested I become.
I really don't know where I stand on the whole thing. I'm a male pig in ways so I find it somewhat hypocritical to condemn these guys for living it up when they have an opportunity to do so. Obviously, that doesn't mean rape or anything like that. But in a day and age where complimenting a woman's appearance can be construed as verbal assault, getting drunk and having sex sounds like pure hedonism.

Would it be best if all players were like Kurt Warner in faith and devotion to his family and religion? My guess is no. As much as we want our heroes to be role models and without faults, most of these guys have led a life of BMOC and girls, booze and sometimes drugs are a part of that.

Guys like Manziel and Leinart take it too far but I think either extreme would be a net loss. Just as I don't want to watch a bunch of drug addicts playing football, I don't think I'd be too interested in the Mormon football league either.

 by St. Loser Fan
4 years 11 months ago
 Total posts:   10889  
 Joined:  May 31 2016
United States of America   Saint Louis MO
Hall of Fame

moklerman wrote:I really don't know where I stand on the whole thing. I'm a male pig in ways so I find it somewhat hypocritical to condemn these guys for living it up when they have an opportunity to do so. Obviously, that doesn't mean rape or anything like that. But in a day and age where complimenting a woman's appearance can be construed as verbal assault, getting drunk and having sex sounds like pure hedonism.

Would it be best if all players were like Kurt Warner in faith and devotion to his family and religion? My guess is no. As much as we want our heroes to be role models and without faults, most of these guys have led a life of BMOC and girls, booze and sometimes drugs are a part of that.

Guys like Manziel and Leinart take it too far but I think either extreme would be a net loss. Just as I don't want to watch a bunch of drug addicts playing football, I don't think I'd be too interested in the Mormon football league either.


I don't think anyone is saying it should be Mormon/Baptist pure with no drinking and no sex. but you can't have rampant harassment either.

https://www.si.com/nba/2018/02/21/dalla ... n-response

It was an hour or so before tip–off. The Dallas Mavericks were hosting a nationally televised game during the 2010–11 NBA season. And, deep inside the American Airlines Center, a recently–hired Mavericks support staff employee was eating dinner in the media dining room. As the woman sat down, the team president and CEO, Terdema Ussery, asked if he could join her. She grew nervous, not because Ussery was her boss’s boss, or because he was one of the most prominent figures in the Dallas sportscape. It was because his reputation as a serial sexual harasser of women preceded him.

At this meal, with ESPN crew members seated nearby, Ussery struck up an unusual conversation. As the woman recalls the exchange, Ussery claimed that he knew what she was going to do over the coming weekend. When the woman asked, confusedly, what Ussery meant, he smiled.

“You’re going to get gang-banged,” he asserted, “aren’t you?”

“No,” the woman responded, caught off-guard. “Actually, I’m going to the movies with friends.”

“No,” Ussery insisted. “You’re definitely getting gang-banged.”

The employee was startled but not entirely surprised. When she first accepted her job with the Mavericks in 2010, she’d shared the news with her local Dallas women’s running group. Instead of congrats, she recalls, she received warnings. “Watch out for the president,” one friend said. “Whatever you do, don’t get trapped in an elevator with him.”


“It was a real life Animal House,” says one former organization employee who left recently after spending roughly five years with the Mavs. “And I only say ‘was’ because I’m not there anymore. I’m sure it’s still going on.”

Ussery, who left the Mavericks in 2015, was hardly alone. Interviews with more than a dozen former and current Mavericks employees in different departments, conducted during a months-long SPORTS ILLUSTRATED investigation, paint a picture of a corporate culture rife with misogyny and predatory sexual behavior: alleged public fondling by the team president; outright domestic assault by a high-profile member of the Mavs.com staff; unsupportive or even intimidating responses from superiors who heard complaints of inappropriate behavior from their employees; even an employee who openly watched pornography at his desk. Most sources did not want their names used for a variety of reasons including fear of retaliation and ostracization and limits imposed by agreements they signed with the team.

While sources referred to the Mavericks office as a “locker room culture,” the team’s actual locker room was a refuge. Says one female former senior staffer: “I dealt with players all the time. I had hundreds of interactions with players and never once had an issue…they always knew how to treat people. Then I'd go to the office and it was this zoo, this complete shitshow. My anxiety would go down dealing with players; it would go up when I got to my desk.”


https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/12/17/jerry ... acial-slur

Richardson was also known for what multiple women call the “seatbelt maneuver.” He would invite female employees out to lunch, and in keeping with his reputation as a self-styled gentleman, he would open the car door for his guests. Once they were seated, however, he would insist on fastening their seatbelt for them, reaching across their lap and brushing his hand across their breasts before putting the belt in the clasp.

“You look back and it’s wackadoo,” says one former Carolina employee. “You felt preyed upon. You felt fear. You felt self-doubt. But when you’re in [that environment], everywhere you go, every family gathering, it’s, ‘Oh, you work in the NFL? That’s so cool.’ And you don’t want to lose your job.”


https://www.reuters.com/article/us-foot ... SKBN1KF198

Former NFL stars Eric Davis and Michael Irvin were accused of sexual harassment in a lawsuit filed by a former NFL Network makeup artist on Tuesday in Los Angeles Superior Court.

Erin McParland is suing NFL Enterprises (the league offshoot that operates NFL Network), Davis and other potential defendants, according to Pro Football Talk.

McParland maintains she was “subjected to ongoing and continuing sexual harassment by current and former on-air talent and other employees,” according to the suit.

“Davis (would) force his genitals against Plaintiff and he would also rub his genitals on Plaintiff’s leg,” according to the complaint. “Davis also groped Plaintiff’s rear extremities with both hands including a specific instance where Davis grabbed Plaintiff’s buttocks and inserted his fingers up into the area between Plaintiff’s buttocks on either side. These contacts were against Plaintiff’s clearly stated wishes for ... Davis to keep his ‘hands off’ her.”

 by Hacksaw
4 years 11 months ago
 Total posts:   24523  
 Joined:  Apr 15 2015
United States of America   AT THE BEACH
Moderator

ramsman34 wrote:I too hope McVay wasn’t involved. But, he is incredibly close to The Grudens. Hopefully Sean was all business when he was there. I’m sure we will find out soon enough. Sean doesn’t seem like a drug dude, nor does he seem to have any issues with “dating” and yes I am being PG and PC here. But, we don’t know what we don’t know.

But being that close to the Gruden's it stands to reason he knew something that we don't know.
Man, as if this year couldn't get any worse.

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