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John Shaw working with Spanos?

That can only improve Inglewood's chances...

Why do you say that?

And why is Shaw down on Kroenke after working for him for years?

[Stranger]

I didn't feel like starting a new topic for this, so i'll just ad the comment here.

At the end of Roggin's show today, he mentioned that someone mentioned John Shaw on twitter. Since they mentioned him, it thought it would be ok and let the "cat out of the bag". He said that John Shaw is working with Spanos on the Carson project. He originally tried to get Spanos and Stan K. together on the Inglewood project a couple years ago. Now he's telling Spanos not to partner with SK.

I'll be so pissed off if John Shaw plays a part in keeping the Rams from returning to LA. It was bad enough that he played a huge part of them leaving their home of 49 years.

Shaw and Georgia have to be the two most hated figures in Rams history.

[Hacksaw]

Spanos could come up with a billion. Maybe.

300 Spanos
200 G4
PSL 300 - 400
Naming right 200-300

G4 isn't available if you relocate.

LA is the exception because of the lack of public money. The real issue is the NFLPA since the stadium credits for this CBA have run out.

Ripper , please help me understand this.

[Hacksaw]

I didn't feel like starting a new topic for this, so i'll just ad the comment here.

At the end of Roggin's show today, he mentioned that someone mentioned John Shaw on twitter. Since they mentioned him, it thought it would be ok and let the "cat out of the bag". He said that John Shaw is working with Spanos on the Carson project. He originally tried to get Spanos and Stan K. together on the Inglewood project a couple years ago. Now he's telling Spanos not to partner with SK.

I'll be so pissed off if John Shaw plays a part in keeping the Rams from returning to LA. It was bad enough that he played a huge part of them leaving their home of 49 years.

Are you serious? Just when I was sort a warming up to the guy for putting the tier clause in the contract. I almost thought he actually got the Los Angeles Rams.
He should be a hunted man that mudder fudger.

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Roggin is sounding more like the National Enquirer every day. I'm not buying that John Shaw sabotaging Kroenke stuff.

We really need to parse all the statements from guys like Cole, Farmer, and Vinny. They have the most unbiased view, or less biased than most others.

Cole said something else that is important. He said the Rams said in Dallas that if they don't get approved for LA, then they will go year to year in the dome if they don't like the STL plan. If everything we heard is correct, there's virtually no chance that Kroenke will like the STL plan.

I'm just trying to visualize Carson getting approved, and Spanos and Davis in LA, and Kroenke going year to year in STL. Somebody needs to tell me how the NFL thinks that even remotely achieves their desire to satisfy, to any degree, all 3 teams.

[Elvis]

John Shaw working with Spanos?

That can only improve Inglewood's chances...

Why do you say that?

And why is Shaw down on Kroenke after working for him for years?

I was just joking around but i remember John Shaw most for how ineffective he could be. Not to mention he was never really well liked in NFL circles and he's quite the old man in 2015.

BTW, JT was all over this (sort of) months ago, from one of his August chats:

I don't believe they've talked in months. Some have called it a falling out _ I don't know if I'd go that far.
by jthomas 11:42 AM

All after he tweeted this:

[Hacksaw]

I remember that. Life is good for Shaw. Now butt the f out thank you..

What does Shaw stand to gain by backing Spanos - Carson - what ever? What is the point? I doubt it's to F over Kroenke alone or at all.
Shaw must has something to gain through his affiliation with Spanos. His age and connections might be dwindling.
So I guess if valid that means that Shaw was trying to hook Spanos up with Mr Developer-Moneybags at that luncheon a while back eh?

[The Ripper]

G4 isn't available if you relocate.

LA is the exception because of the lack of public money. The real issue is the NFLPA since the stadium credits for this CBA have run out.

Ripper , please help me understand this.

The owners share revenues with the NFLPA and the split is determined in the CBA. G4 is funded from revenues that would normally be shared with the players so in each CBA the players give credits to the NFL to allow the revenue to be used for stadium financing prior to revenue sharing. The amount and terms are a major sticking point and it was one of the main reasons for the lockout because Jerry Richardson wanted to significantly increase the % of revenues dedicated to stadium financing. Just like the G3 program the G4 program has run out of money so the money either needs to be paid out of the owners portion of the revenue sharing or they must go back to the NFLPA to ask for more credits in exchange for something of significance. G4 loans get paid back over time and the players eventually get that money back but since most careers are shorter than the loan terms the current players don't benefit when the loan gets paid off. All of this is why Shane Grey is wrong that G4 works like a grant since all the credits must be paid back to the players. The owners may waive their share but the players defiantely won't.

[snackdaddy]

One thing I can't help keep wondering. Spanos/Davis keep coming up with higher profile alliances like Policy, Iger and Shaw. Kroenke has gone solo. It almost smacks of desperation for Spanos to keep reaching out to these people. Makes it seem like Kroenke is in better shape because he doesn't need to do that.

[den-the-coach]

Spanos, Shaw & Davis...We've seen this trio before!