[PARAM]

Kind of a dumb question. The games, especially the '99 one was nerve wracking as all hell. LOVED the outcome. Landmarks games are fine. I want landmark seasons IE Championships. however we get them doesn't matter but blowing teams out is easier on the nerves, lol.

That's the point. The nerves.

From 99-01, Warner had 3 4QC wins. That Tampa game in the postseason. The 2000 opening MNF game against Denver. And the 2001 NYG game when Marshall was injured. You would think Kurt Warner would have had more. He did, once he got to Arizona. 43 starts in St. Louis, three 4QC wins. 57 starts in Arizona, 6 4QC wins. Why? Better QB? Better team? More opportunities?

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Kind of a dumb question. The games, especially the '99 one was nerve wracking as all hell. LOVED the outcome. Landmarks games are fine. I want landmark seasons IE Championships. however we get them doesn't matter but blowing teams out is easier on the nerves, lol.

No kind of a rhetorical question. (Which is how I intended it.) As in obviously, those games have tremendous value to us---whether or not we found them nerve-wracking at the time. The point was that we all see their significance as landmark games. There's good reasons for that.

The Rams one (superbowl era) championship came from 2 nerve-wracking games. The 99 Tampa game, and then the superbowl (with Warner to Bruce and on defense The Tackle).

In contrast, in 2001, in all but 5 of their 19 games they led teams by a wide margin...and then lost a close one in the superbowl by 3 points in the final minutes.

I want championships too. But I don't care how they get them. If they do it by winning the occasional tough close game, I'm fine with that. I certainly don't want them LOSING tough close games.

During a game like that I am usually tense and anxious, but when they win, then later I remember it as a great moment and take a lot of pride in it (which I assume you do to). No one wants moments like that. But realistically you can expect them PLUS take pride after when they come through.

Anyway. We have no choice in the matter. All good teams face other good teams and end up in their share of tough close games. Not even the 2001 GSOT Rams dominated everyone. That's just how it goes.

And all I said in this thread is that we want them to be able to win their share of those games. Good teams just do that. That's an innocuous thing to say. How did that start a long board war?

At risk of doing the same psych 101 numbers I complain about, I wonder if maybe people see Goff hasn't done it yet, and then rather than trust he will, they dismiss the value of winning those kinds of games, plus try PD board style "psych 101" flame posts on their debate opponents ("you LIKE tension") (to be fair you personally didn't do that, but it is a thing). Well that's not a good way to discuss all this...we all KNOW that those kinds of wins have value and we all KNOW that any good team ends up in games like that.

What's to fight about. Just trust that Goff, and the Rams, will mature and get there. And heck for all we know, that starts this Sunday, or soon after.

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[PARAM]

So we obviously agree.

Winning close games is good
Winning blow outs is good
Coming from behind to win is good
They're all important
We're all Ram fans

Did I miss anything?

[sloramfan]

i love a 10+ page post...

always priceless comedy, and my rams are the main subject... who we all root for (thanks for the reminder PA.. )

go rams

slo

[aeneas1]

From 99-01, Warner had 3 4QC wins. That Tampa game in the postseason. The 2000 opening MNF game against Denver. And the 2001 NYG game when Marshall was injured. You would think Kurt Warner would have had more. He did, once he got to Arizona. 43 starts in St. Louis, three 4QC wins. 57 starts in Arizona, 6 4QC wins. Why? Better QB? Better team? More opportunities?

clint longley not only has a higher 4qc per game played ratio than brett favre, but he also owns, arguably, one of the greatest 4th quarter comebacks in the history of the nfl, viewed by millions on thanksgiving day, are we to believe he managed that comeback because he was a better 4qc qb than others? a better clutch qb than others? hell, you can dig up vids of tony banks leading a 4qc, does that tell us something about banks' ability as an nfl qb? about banks in "clutch time"? amazingly the answer is yes to some.

[PARAM]

clint longley not only has a higher 4qc per game played ratio than brett favre, but he also owns, arguably, one of the greatest 4th quarter comebacks in the history of the nfl, viewed by millions on thanksgiving day, are we to believe he managed that comeback because he was a better 4qc qb than others? a better clutch qb than others? hell, you can dig up vids of tony banks leading a 4qc, does that tell us something about banks' ability as an nfl qb? about banks in "clutch time"? amazingly the answer is yes to some.

QBs with exactly 9 4QC......

Charlie Batch, Matt Cassell, Jay Fiedler, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Tom Flores, Josh Freeman, Brian Griese, Colin Kaepernick, Chris Miller, Rodney Peete, Kordell Stewart, Kurt Warner, Marc Wilson and Jim Zorn.

What's that comical line? "One of these things is not like the others"!!!

[dieterbrock]

That counts as a comeback win. Sorry but it does. In fact if you look at the one place that keeps tabs on comebacks, yes they do count 4th quarter games where you comeback to tie and then win in OT as comebacks. (Don't worry about doing the dismissive flame thing while actually being dead in the wrong...it's surprisingly common. ).

Example, one of my favorite games, 10/10/04:

Doh!
Got me there. My bad.

Still a stupid stat.

But I’m glad you find it so important yet don’t believe in qbs getting credit for wins.
Love having you around. The most consistent thing is the inconsistency
Please don’t ever stop posting.

[Hacksaw]

In the spirit of Christmas , I want to wish you all holiday cheer and good tidings.

Mean while this topic has gone bacterial.

[ramsrams]

Mean while this topic has gone bacterial.

Good bacterial or bad bacterial?

Bacteria are our friends. I’m just saying hi to a few million of them right now, as a matter of fact. Seem to be decent blokes, very lttle back talk.

And, like this thread, no risk of them becoming viral.

[sloramfan]

happy christmas all... and dont forget to thank God

our rams are good... and so is he

go rams

slo