by aeneas1 3 years 10 months ago Total posts: 16894 Joined: Sep 13 2015 Norcal Hall of Fame Sean McVay, Jared Goff's Deteriorating Relationship Detailed in ESPN Report POST #151 by aeneas1 3 years 10 months ago Total posts: 16894 Joined: Sep 13 2015 Norcal Hall of Fame Sean McVay, Jared Goff's Deteriorating Relationship Detailed in ESPN Report POST #152 RedAlice, PARAM liked this post goff is such an interesting nfl figure in terms of the lack of respect he gets, in fact i'm not sure what nfler has gotten less respect over the past 20 or so years, it's so weird to, especially for a guy who's accomplished quite a bit in his relatively young career... anyway, i liked the guy and was disappointed that mcvay couldn't get more out of him last season than shanny got out of his qb by committee (mullens, beathard and jg), it was really shocking, especially given so much high scoring in 2020.that said, i hope stafford + mcvay tear it up, and i wish goff lots of luck, he's gonna need it! 2 by Hacksaw 3 years 10 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Sean McVay, Jared Goff's Deteriorating Relationship Detailed in ESPN Report POST #153 I hope he's not mad about that $100+M he got hitched to.Goff is a likeable guy. Came with mixed expectations. Couldn't beat out Keenum and was compared to Wentz out of the gate (who was winning). GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by RedAlice 3 years 10 months ago Total posts: 6781 Joined: Aug 07 2015 Seattle Hall of Fame Sean McVay, Jared Goff's Deteriorating Relationship Detailed in ESPN Report POST #154 PARAM liked this post aeneas1 wrote:goff is such an interesting nfl figure in terms of the lack of respect he gets, in fact i'm not sure what nfler has gotten less respect over the past 20 or so years, it's so weird to, especially for a guy who's accomplished quite a bit in his relatively young career... anyway, i liked the guy and was disappointed that mcvay couldn't get more out of him last season than shanny got out of his qb by committee (mullens, beathard and jg), it was really shocking, especially given so much high scoring in 2020.that said, i hope stafford + mcvay tear it up, and i wish goff lots of luck, he's gonna need it!I will always love Goff. We needed him. Now, onto Stafford. I’m terribly excited to have a complete “boy” at our QB position. Dude is straight up boy in all the good ways. That arm. That swagger. Follow our RFU Instagram: @ramsfansunited RFU Season Ticket Holder 1 by Kid Charlamagne 3 years 10 months ago Total posts: 533 Joined: Aug 25 2016 LA Coliseum Veteran Sean McVay, Jared Goff's Deteriorating Relationship Detailed in ESPN Report POST #155 I always liked Goff but it seems he and McVay’s relationship had gone as far as it could. Maybe McVay could’ve managed it better being the authority figure and older but all of us have done things we probably regret. It is interesting some of the reports out of Detroit are not exactly encouraging, it is hard to compare guys solely based on their arms, so maybe Goff will be better once games start. One thing we learned about Goff was that he wasn’t a guy who could cover up a team’s deficiencies which doesn’t bode well for the lions. I hope he’s not horrible, it’s probably the only way to get past the, “McVay told him where to throw the ball,” narrative. by snackdaddy 3 years 10 months ago Total posts: 10048 Joined: May 30 2015 Merced California Hall of Fame Sean McVay, Jared Goff's Deteriorating Relationship Detailed in ESPN Report POST #156 RedAlice wrote:I will always love Goff. We needed him. Now, onto Stafford. I’m terribly excited to have a complete “boy” at our QB position. Dude is straight up boy in all the good ways. That arm. That swagger.That is where I'm at. I appreciate what Goff did for us. I was one who never considered him to be elite. But I always said he's good enough to win with. And he did win a lot of games. But he's gone now. Its all about Stafford for me. He's our guy and I certainly believe he's an upgrade on a team that was already pretty good with his predecessor. by Hacksaw 3 years 10 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Sean McVay, Jared Goff's Deteriorating Relationship Detailed in ESPN Report POST #157 In this equation 9 >16 GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by rams74 3 years 10 months ago Total posts: 1743 Joined: Nov 19 2015 Glendale, Arizona Pro Bowl Sean McVay, Jared Goff's Deteriorating Relationship Detailed in ESPN Report POST #158 Hacksaw liked this post Kid Charlamagne wrote:One thing we learned about Goff was that he wasn’t a guy who could cover up a team’s deficiencies which doesn’t bode well for the lions.I think you can say that about a lot of players. I'm not sure Stafford is that guy, either, to be honest. With all that losing in Detroit, how many of those deficiencies could he have possibly covered up?I just hope the 2021 Rams have the right combination of guys to allow Stafford to show off what he can really do, rather than cover up their deficiencies. 1 by aeneas1 3 years 10 months ago Total posts: 16894 Joined: Sep 13 2015 Norcal Hall of Fame Sean McVay, Jared Goff's Deteriorating Relationship Detailed in ESPN Report POST #159 Kid Charlamagne wrote:One thing we learned about Goff was that he wasn’t a guy who could cover up a team’s deficiencies which doesn’t bode well for the lions.well the rams defense gave up a whopping 45 points to the chiefs in 2018, quite a deficiency i would say, but got led the offense to 41 which not only avoided an embarrassing blowout but also won the game, and there were of course other examples... then you have stafford who arguably may very well be the poster child for guys who weren't able to cover up their team's deficiencies.that said, stafford is obviously a talented vet, and the marriage between he and mcvay is, at least on paper, stuff of championships according to more than a few talking heads, hopefully that will prove to be the case!in other news:1973 - hadl (born 02/15) joined the rams at the age of 33.2021 - stafford (born 02/07), joins the rams at the age of 33.hadl led the rams to #1 in offensive scoring, 12 wins, and the postseason, and earned first team all-pro honors for the first time in his career.can stafford match him? by CanuckRightWinger 3 years 10 months ago Total posts: 2777 Joined: Jan 13 2016 VANCOUVER, BC Superstar Sean McVay, Jared Goff's Deteriorating Relationship Detailed in ESPN Report POST #160 Elvis liked this post To build on that insightful A1 comparison on Hadl/Stafford...John Hadl had the pot-bellied physique of a Used Car Saleman, but he could sling the hog-bladder and read a Defense.....Body-wise Stafford is friggin' Adonis compared to the overweight (and short) John Hadl.Hadl fell off a horse in the offseason after his AllPro 1973 debut with Los Ramos......and Hadl hurt his back pretty badly, which affected his throwing motion and his zip on the ball, which Carroll Rosenbloom noticed in Rams TC practice in 1974. Next thing you know, Ram GM Don SmartestHorseTraderEver Klosterman trades Hadl to an unsuspecting Green Bay Franchise (HC Lindy Infante IIRC) for a huge boatload of Packer Draft Picks that setup the Knox dominance of t he NFC West until 1977. Rosenbloom and Klosterman were a helluva team back in the 1970s. Hopefully McSnead surpass their lofty achievements and win Ramsnation our much deserved SuperBowl!! Go Rams!! 1 Reply 16 / 22 1 16 22 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 213 posts Jul 07 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by aeneas1 3 years 10 months ago Total posts: 16894 Joined: Sep 13 2015 Norcal Hall of Fame Sean McVay, Jared Goff's Deteriorating Relationship Detailed in ESPN Report POST #152 RedAlice, PARAM liked this post goff is such an interesting nfl figure in terms of the lack of respect he gets, in fact i'm not sure what nfler has gotten less respect over the past 20 or so years, it's so weird to, especially for a guy who's accomplished quite a bit in his relatively young career... anyway, i liked the guy and was disappointed that mcvay couldn't get more out of him last season than shanny got out of his qb by committee (mullens, beathard and jg), it was really shocking, especially given so much high scoring in 2020.that said, i hope stafford + mcvay tear it up, and i wish goff lots of luck, he's gonna need it! 2 by Hacksaw 3 years 10 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Sean McVay, Jared Goff's Deteriorating Relationship Detailed in ESPN Report POST #153 I hope he's not mad about that $100+M he got hitched to.Goff is a likeable guy. Came with mixed expectations. Couldn't beat out Keenum and was compared to Wentz out of the gate (who was winning). GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by RedAlice 3 years 10 months ago Total posts: 6781 Joined: Aug 07 2015 Seattle Hall of Fame Sean McVay, Jared Goff's Deteriorating Relationship Detailed in ESPN Report POST #154 PARAM liked this post aeneas1 wrote:goff is such an interesting nfl figure in terms of the lack of respect he gets, in fact i'm not sure what nfler has gotten less respect over the past 20 or so years, it's so weird to, especially for a guy who's accomplished quite a bit in his relatively young career... anyway, i liked the guy and was disappointed that mcvay couldn't get more out of him last season than shanny got out of his qb by committee (mullens, beathard and jg), it was really shocking, especially given so much high scoring in 2020.that said, i hope stafford + mcvay tear it up, and i wish goff lots of luck, he's gonna need it!I will always love Goff. We needed him. Now, onto Stafford. I’m terribly excited to have a complete “boy” at our QB position. Dude is straight up boy in all the good ways. That arm. That swagger. Follow our RFU Instagram: @ramsfansunited RFU Season Ticket Holder 1 by Kid Charlamagne 3 years 10 months ago Total posts: 533 Joined: Aug 25 2016 LA Coliseum Veteran Sean McVay, Jared Goff's Deteriorating Relationship Detailed in ESPN Report POST #155 I always liked Goff but it seems he and McVay’s relationship had gone as far as it could. Maybe McVay could’ve managed it better being the authority figure and older but all of us have done things we probably regret. It is interesting some of the reports out of Detroit are not exactly encouraging, it is hard to compare guys solely based on their arms, so maybe Goff will be better once games start. One thing we learned about Goff was that he wasn’t a guy who could cover up a team’s deficiencies which doesn’t bode well for the lions. I hope he’s not horrible, it’s probably the only way to get past the, “McVay told him where to throw the ball,” narrative. by snackdaddy 3 years 10 months ago Total posts: 10048 Joined: May 30 2015 Merced California Hall of Fame Sean McVay, Jared Goff's Deteriorating Relationship Detailed in ESPN Report POST #156 RedAlice wrote:I will always love Goff. We needed him. Now, onto Stafford. I’m terribly excited to have a complete “boy” at our QB position. Dude is straight up boy in all the good ways. That arm. That swagger.That is where I'm at. I appreciate what Goff did for us. I was one who never considered him to be elite. But I always said he's good enough to win with. And he did win a lot of games. But he's gone now. Its all about Stafford for me. He's our guy and I certainly believe he's an upgrade on a team that was already pretty good with his predecessor. by Hacksaw 3 years 10 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Sean McVay, Jared Goff's Deteriorating Relationship Detailed in ESPN Report POST #157 In this equation 9 >16 GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by rams74 3 years 10 months ago Total posts: 1743 Joined: Nov 19 2015 Glendale, Arizona Pro Bowl Sean McVay, Jared Goff's Deteriorating Relationship Detailed in ESPN Report POST #158 Hacksaw liked this post Kid Charlamagne wrote:One thing we learned about Goff was that he wasn’t a guy who could cover up a team’s deficiencies which doesn’t bode well for the lions.I think you can say that about a lot of players. I'm not sure Stafford is that guy, either, to be honest. With all that losing in Detroit, how many of those deficiencies could he have possibly covered up?I just hope the 2021 Rams have the right combination of guys to allow Stafford to show off what he can really do, rather than cover up their deficiencies. 1 by aeneas1 3 years 10 months ago Total posts: 16894 Joined: Sep 13 2015 Norcal Hall of Fame Sean McVay, Jared Goff's Deteriorating Relationship Detailed in ESPN Report POST #159 Kid Charlamagne wrote:One thing we learned about Goff was that he wasn’t a guy who could cover up a team’s deficiencies which doesn’t bode well for the lions.well the rams defense gave up a whopping 45 points to the chiefs in 2018, quite a deficiency i would say, but got led the offense to 41 which not only avoided an embarrassing blowout but also won the game, and there were of course other examples... then you have stafford who arguably may very well be the poster child for guys who weren't able to cover up their team's deficiencies.that said, stafford is obviously a talented vet, and the marriage between he and mcvay is, at least on paper, stuff of championships according to more than a few talking heads, hopefully that will prove to be the case!in other news:1973 - hadl (born 02/15) joined the rams at the age of 33.2021 - stafford (born 02/07), joins the rams at the age of 33.hadl led the rams to #1 in offensive scoring, 12 wins, and the postseason, and earned first team all-pro honors for the first time in his career.can stafford match him? by CanuckRightWinger 3 years 10 months ago Total posts: 2777 Joined: Jan 13 2016 VANCOUVER, BC Superstar Sean McVay, Jared Goff's Deteriorating Relationship Detailed in ESPN Report POST #160 Elvis liked this post To build on that insightful A1 comparison on Hadl/Stafford...John Hadl had the pot-bellied physique of a Used Car Saleman, but he could sling the hog-bladder and read a Defense.....Body-wise Stafford is friggin' Adonis compared to the overweight (and short) John Hadl.Hadl fell off a horse in the offseason after his AllPro 1973 debut with Los Ramos......and Hadl hurt his back pretty badly, which affected his throwing motion and his zip on the ball, which Carroll Rosenbloom noticed in Rams TC practice in 1974. Next thing you know, Ram GM Don SmartestHorseTraderEver Klosterman trades Hadl to an unsuspecting Green Bay Franchise (HC Lindy Infante IIRC) for a huge boatload of Packer Draft Picks that setup the Knox dominance of t he NFC West until 1977. Rosenbloom and Klosterman were a helluva team back in the 1970s. Hopefully McSnead surpass their lofty achievements and win Ramsnation our much deserved SuperBowl!! Go Rams!! 1 Reply 16 / 22 1 16 22 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 213 posts Jul 07 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by Hacksaw 3 years 10 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Sean McVay, Jared Goff's Deteriorating Relationship Detailed in ESPN Report POST #153 I hope he's not mad about that $100+M he got hitched to.Goff is a likeable guy. Came with mixed expectations. Couldn't beat out Keenum and was compared to Wentz out of the gate (who was winning). GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by RedAlice 3 years 10 months ago Total posts: 6781 Joined: Aug 07 2015 Seattle Hall of Fame Sean McVay, Jared Goff's Deteriorating Relationship Detailed in ESPN Report POST #154 PARAM liked this post aeneas1 wrote:goff is such an interesting nfl figure in terms of the lack of respect he gets, in fact i'm not sure what nfler has gotten less respect over the past 20 or so years, it's so weird to, especially for a guy who's accomplished quite a bit in his relatively young career... anyway, i liked the guy and was disappointed that mcvay couldn't get more out of him last season than shanny got out of his qb by committee (mullens, beathard and jg), it was really shocking, especially given so much high scoring in 2020.that said, i hope stafford + mcvay tear it up, and i wish goff lots of luck, he's gonna need it!I will always love Goff. We needed him. Now, onto Stafford. I’m terribly excited to have a complete “boy” at our QB position. Dude is straight up boy in all the good ways. That arm. That swagger. Follow our RFU Instagram: @ramsfansunited RFU Season Ticket Holder 1 by Kid Charlamagne 3 years 10 months ago Total posts: 533 Joined: Aug 25 2016 LA Coliseum Veteran Sean McVay, Jared Goff's Deteriorating Relationship Detailed in ESPN Report POST #155 I always liked Goff but it seems he and McVay’s relationship had gone as far as it could. Maybe McVay could’ve managed it better being the authority figure and older but all of us have done things we probably regret. It is interesting some of the reports out of Detroit are not exactly encouraging, it is hard to compare guys solely based on their arms, so maybe Goff will be better once games start. One thing we learned about Goff was that he wasn’t a guy who could cover up a team’s deficiencies which doesn’t bode well for the lions. I hope he’s not horrible, it’s probably the only way to get past the, “McVay told him where to throw the ball,” narrative. by snackdaddy 3 years 10 months ago Total posts: 10048 Joined: May 30 2015 Merced California Hall of Fame Sean McVay, Jared Goff's Deteriorating Relationship Detailed in ESPN Report POST #156 RedAlice wrote:I will always love Goff. We needed him. Now, onto Stafford. I’m terribly excited to have a complete “boy” at our QB position. Dude is straight up boy in all the good ways. That arm. That swagger.That is where I'm at. I appreciate what Goff did for us. I was one who never considered him to be elite. But I always said he's good enough to win with. And he did win a lot of games. But he's gone now. Its all about Stafford for me. He's our guy and I certainly believe he's an upgrade on a team that was already pretty good with his predecessor. by Hacksaw 3 years 10 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Sean McVay, Jared Goff's Deteriorating Relationship Detailed in ESPN Report POST #157 In this equation 9 >16 GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by rams74 3 years 10 months ago Total posts: 1743 Joined: Nov 19 2015 Glendale, Arizona Pro Bowl Sean McVay, Jared Goff's Deteriorating Relationship Detailed in ESPN Report POST #158 Hacksaw liked this post Kid Charlamagne wrote:One thing we learned about Goff was that he wasn’t a guy who could cover up a team’s deficiencies which doesn’t bode well for the lions.I think you can say that about a lot of players. I'm not sure Stafford is that guy, either, to be honest. With all that losing in Detroit, how many of those deficiencies could he have possibly covered up?I just hope the 2021 Rams have the right combination of guys to allow Stafford to show off what he can really do, rather than cover up their deficiencies. 1 by aeneas1 3 years 10 months ago Total posts: 16894 Joined: Sep 13 2015 Norcal Hall of Fame Sean McVay, Jared Goff's Deteriorating Relationship Detailed in ESPN Report POST #159 Kid Charlamagne wrote:One thing we learned about Goff was that he wasn’t a guy who could cover up a team’s deficiencies which doesn’t bode well for the lions.well the rams defense gave up a whopping 45 points to the chiefs in 2018, quite a deficiency i would say, but got led the offense to 41 which not only avoided an embarrassing blowout but also won the game, and there were of course other examples... then you have stafford who arguably may very well be the poster child for guys who weren't able to cover up their team's deficiencies.that said, stafford is obviously a talented vet, and the marriage between he and mcvay is, at least on paper, stuff of championships according to more than a few talking heads, hopefully that will prove to be the case!in other news:1973 - hadl (born 02/15) joined the rams at the age of 33.2021 - stafford (born 02/07), joins the rams at the age of 33.hadl led the rams to #1 in offensive scoring, 12 wins, and the postseason, and earned first team all-pro honors for the first time in his career.can stafford match him? by CanuckRightWinger 3 years 10 months ago Total posts: 2777 Joined: Jan 13 2016 VANCOUVER, BC Superstar Sean McVay, Jared Goff's Deteriorating Relationship Detailed in ESPN Report POST #160 Elvis liked this post To build on that insightful A1 comparison on Hadl/Stafford...John Hadl had the pot-bellied physique of a Used Car Saleman, but he could sling the hog-bladder and read a Defense.....Body-wise Stafford is friggin' Adonis compared to the overweight (and short) John Hadl.Hadl fell off a horse in the offseason after his AllPro 1973 debut with Los Ramos......and Hadl hurt his back pretty badly, which affected his throwing motion and his zip on the ball, which Carroll Rosenbloom noticed in Rams TC practice in 1974. Next thing you know, Ram GM Don SmartestHorseTraderEver Klosterman trades Hadl to an unsuspecting Green Bay Franchise (HC Lindy Infante IIRC) for a huge boatload of Packer Draft Picks that setup the Knox dominance of t he NFC West until 1977. Rosenbloom and Klosterman were a helluva team back in the 1970s. Hopefully McSnead surpass their lofty achievements and win Ramsnation our much deserved SuperBowl!! Go Rams!! 1 Reply 16 / 22 1 16 22 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 213 posts Jul 07 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by RedAlice 3 years 10 months ago Total posts: 6781 Joined: Aug 07 2015 Seattle Hall of Fame Sean McVay, Jared Goff's Deteriorating Relationship Detailed in ESPN Report POST #154 PARAM liked this post aeneas1 wrote:goff is such an interesting nfl figure in terms of the lack of respect he gets, in fact i'm not sure what nfler has gotten less respect over the past 20 or so years, it's so weird to, especially for a guy who's accomplished quite a bit in his relatively young career... anyway, i liked the guy and was disappointed that mcvay couldn't get more out of him last season than shanny got out of his qb by committee (mullens, beathard and jg), it was really shocking, especially given so much high scoring in 2020.that said, i hope stafford + mcvay tear it up, and i wish goff lots of luck, he's gonna need it!I will always love Goff. We needed him. Now, onto Stafford. I’m terribly excited to have a complete “boy” at our QB position. Dude is straight up boy in all the good ways. That arm. That swagger. Follow our RFU Instagram: @ramsfansunited RFU Season Ticket Holder 1 by Kid Charlamagne 3 years 10 months ago Total posts: 533 Joined: Aug 25 2016 LA Coliseum Veteran Sean McVay, Jared Goff's Deteriorating Relationship Detailed in ESPN Report POST #155 I always liked Goff but it seems he and McVay’s relationship had gone as far as it could. Maybe McVay could’ve managed it better being the authority figure and older but all of us have done things we probably regret. It is interesting some of the reports out of Detroit are not exactly encouraging, it is hard to compare guys solely based on their arms, so maybe Goff will be better once games start. One thing we learned about Goff was that he wasn’t a guy who could cover up a team’s deficiencies which doesn’t bode well for the lions. I hope he’s not horrible, it’s probably the only way to get past the, “McVay told him where to throw the ball,” narrative. by snackdaddy 3 years 10 months ago Total posts: 10048 Joined: May 30 2015 Merced California Hall of Fame Sean McVay, Jared Goff's Deteriorating Relationship Detailed in ESPN Report POST #156 RedAlice wrote:I will always love Goff. We needed him. Now, onto Stafford. I’m terribly excited to have a complete “boy” at our QB position. Dude is straight up boy in all the good ways. That arm. That swagger.That is where I'm at. I appreciate what Goff did for us. I was one who never considered him to be elite. But I always said he's good enough to win with. And he did win a lot of games. But he's gone now. Its all about Stafford for me. He's our guy and I certainly believe he's an upgrade on a team that was already pretty good with his predecessor. by Hacksaw 3 years 10 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Sean McVay, Jared Goff's Deteriorating Relationship Detailed in ESPN Report POST #157 In this equation 9 >16 GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by rams74 3 years 10 months ago Total posts: 1743 Joined: Nov 19 2015 Glendale, Arizona Pro Bowl Sean McVay, Jared Goff's Deteriorating Relationship Detailed in ESPN Report POST #158 Hacksaw liked this post Kid Charlamagne wrote:One thing we learned about Goff was that he wasn’t a guy who could cover up a team’s deficiencies which doesn’t bode well for the lions.I think you can say that about a lot of players. I'm not sure Stafford is that guy, either, to be honest. With all that losing in Detroit, how many of those deficiencies could he have possibly covered up?I just hope the 2021 Rams have the right combination of guys to allow Stafford to show off what he can really do, rather than cover up their deficiencies. 1 by aeneas1 3 years 10 months ago Total posts: 16894 Joined: Sep 13 2015 Norcal Hall of Fame Sean McVay, Jared Goff's Deteriorating Relationship Detailed in ESPN Report POST #159 Kid Charlamagne wrote:One thing we learned about Goff was that he wasn’t a guy who could cover up a team’s deficiencies which doesn’t bode well for the lions.well the rams defense gave up a whopping 45 points to the chiefs in 2018, quite a deficiency i would say, but got led the offense to 41 which not only avoided an embarrassing blowout but also won the game, and there were of course other examples... then you have stafford who arguably may very well be the poster child for guys who weren't able to cover up their team's deficiencies.that said, stafford is obviously a talented vet, and the marriage between he and mcvay is, at least on paper, stuff of championships according to more than a few talking heads, hopefully that will prove to be the case!in other news:1973 - hadl (born 02/15) joined the rams at the age of 33.2021 - stafford (born 02/07), joins the rams at the age of 33.hadl led the rams to #1 in offensive scoring, 12 wins, and the postseason, and earned first team all-pro honors for the first time in his career.can stafford match him? by CanuckRightWinger 3 years 10 months ago Total posts: 2777 Joined: Jan 13 2016 VANCOUVER, BC Superstar Sean McVay, Jared Goff's Deteriorating Relationship Detailed in ESPN Report POST #160 Elvis liked this post To build on that insightful A1 comparison on Hadl/Stafford...John Hadl had the pot-bellied physique of a Used Car Saleman, but he could sling the hog-bladder and read a Defense.....Body-wise Stafford is friggin' Adonis compared to the overweight (and short) John Hadl.Hadl fell off a horse in the offseason after his AllPro 1973 debut with Los Ramos......and Hadl hurt his back pretty badly, which affected his throwing motion and his zip on the ball, which Carroll Rosenbloom noticed in Rams TC practice in 1974. Next thing you know, Ram GM Don SmartestHorseTraderEver Klosterman trades Hadl to an unsuspecting Green Bay Franchise (HC Lindy Infante IIRC) for a huge boatload of Packer Draft Picks that setup the Knox dominance of t he NFC West until 1977. Rosenbloom and Klosterman were a helluva team back in the 1970s. Hopefully McSnead surpass their lofty achievements and win Ramsnation our much deserved SuperBowl!! Go Rams!! 1 Reply 16 / 22 1 16 22 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 213 posts Jul 07 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by Kid Charlamagne 3 years 10 months ago Total posts: 533 Joined: Aug 25 2016 LA Coliseum Veteran Sean McVay, Jared Goff's Deteriorating Relationship Detailed in ESPN Report POST #155 I always liked Goff but it seems he and McVay’s relationship had gone as far as it could. Maybe McVay could’ve managed it better being the authority figure and older but all of us have done things we probably regret. It is interesting some of the reports out of Detroit are not exactly encouraging, it is hard to compare guys solely based on their arms, so maybe Goff will be better once games start. One thing we learned about Goff was that he wasn’t a guy who could cover up a team’s deficiencies which doesn’t bode well for the lions. I hope he’s not horrible, it’s probably the only way to get past the, “McVay told him where to throw the ball,” narrative. by snackdaddy 3 years 10 months ago Total posts: 10048 Joined: May 30 2015 Merced California Hall of Fame Sean McVay, Jared Goff's Deteriorating Relationship Detailed in ESPN Report POST #156 RedAlice wrote:I will always love Goff. We needed him. Now, onto Stafford. I’m terribly excited to have a complete “boy” at our QB position. Dude is straight up boy in all the good ways. That arm. That swagger.That is where I'm at. I appreciate what Goff did for us. I was one who never considered him to be elite. But I always said he's good enough to win with. And he did win a lot of games. But he's gone now. Its all about Stafford for me. He's our guy and I certainly believe he's an upgrade on a team that was already pretty good with his predecessor. by Hacksaw 3 years 10 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Sean McVay, Jared Goff's Deteriorating Relationship Detailed in ESPN Report POST #157 In this equation 9 >16 GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by rams74 3 years 10 months ago Total posts: 1743 Joined: Nov 19 2015 Glendale, Arizona Pro Bowl Sean McVay, Jared Goff's Deteriorating Relationship Detailed in ESPN Report POST #158 Hacksaw liked this post Kid Charlamagne wrote:One thing we learned about Goff was that he wasn’t a guy who could cover up a team’s deficiencies which doesn’t bode well for the lions.I think you can say that about a lot of players. I'm not sure Stafford is that guy, either, to be honest. With all that losing in Detroit, how many of those deficiencies could he have possibly covered up?I just hope the 2021 Rams have the right combination of guys to allow Stafford to show off what he can really do, rather than cover up their deficiencies. 1 by aeneas1 3 years 10 months ago Total posts: 16894 Joined: Sep 13 2015 Norcal Hall of Fame Sean McVay, Jared Goff's Deteriorating Relationship Detailed in ESPN Report POST #159 Kid Charlamagne wrote:One thing we learned about Goff was that he wasn’t a guy who could cover up a team’s deficiencies which doesn’t bode well for the lions.well the rams defense gave up a whopping 45 points to the chiefs in 2018, quite a deficiency i would say, but got led the offense to 41 which not only avoided an embarrassing blowout but also won the game, and there were of course other examples... then you have stafford who arguably may very well be the poster child for guys who weren't able to cover up their team's deficiencies.that said, stafford is obviously a talented vet, and the marriage between he and mcvay is, at least on paper, stuff of championships according to more than a few talking heads, hopefully that will prove to be the case!in other news:1973 - hadl (born 02/15) joined the rams at the age of 33.2021 - stafford (born 02/07), joins the rams at the age of 33.hadl led the rams to #1 in offensive scoring, 12 wins, and the postseason, and earned first team all-pro honors for the first time in his career.can stafford match him? by CanuckRightWinger 3 years 10 months ago Total posts: 2777 Joined: Jan 13 2016 VANCOUVER, BC Superstar Sean McVay, Jared Goff's Deteriorating Relationship Detailed in ESPN Report POST #160 Elvis liked this post To build on that insightful A1 comparison on Hadl/Stafford...John Hadl had the pot-bellied physique of a Used Car Saleman, but he could sling the hog-bladder and read a Defense.....Body-wise Stafford is friggin' Adonis compared to the overweight (and short) John Hadl.Hadl fell off a horse in the offseason after his AllPro 1973 debut with Los Ramos......and Hadl hurt his back pretty badly, which affected his throwing motion and his zip on the ball, which Carroll Rosenbloom noticed in Rams TC practice in 1974. Next thing you know, Ram GM Don SmartestHorseTraderEver Klosterman trades Hadl to an unsuspecting Green Bay Franchise (HC Lindy Infante IIRC) for a huge boatload of Packer Draft Picks that setup the Knox dominance of t he NFC West until 1977. Rosenbloom and Klosterman were a helluva team back in the 1970s. Hopefully McSnead surpass their lofty achievements and win Ramsnation our much deserved SuperBowl!! Go Rams!! 1 Reply 16 / 22 1 16 22 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 213 posts Jul 07 2025
by snackdaddy 3 years 10 months ago Total posts: 10048 Joined: May 30 2015 Merced California Hall of Fame Sean McVay, Jared Goff's Deteriorating Relationship Detailed in ESPN Report POST #156 RedAlice wrote:I will always love Goff. We needed him. Now, onto Stafford. I’m terribly excited to have a complete “boy” at our QB position. Dude is straight up boy in all the good ways. That arm. That swagger.That is where I'm at. I appreciate what Goff did for us. I was one who never considered him to be elite. But I always said he's good enough to win with. And he did win a lot of games. But he's gone now. Its all about Stafford for me. He's our guy and I certainly believe he's an upgrade on a team that was already pretty good with his predecessor. by Hacksaw 3 years 10 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Sean McVay, Jared Goff's Deteriorating Relationship Detailed in ESPN Report POST #157 In this equation 9 >16 GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by rams74 3 years 10 months ago Total posts: 1743 Joined: Nov 19 2015 Glendale, Arizona Pro Bowl Sean McVay, Jared Goff's Deteriorating Relationship Detailed in ESPN Report POST #158 Hacksaw liked this post Kid Charlamagne wrote:One thing we learned about Goff was that he wasn’t a guy who could cover up a team’s deficiencies which doesn’t bode well for the lions.I think you can say that about a lot of players. I'm not sure Stafford is that guy, either, to be honest. With all that losing in Detroit, how many of those deficiencies could he have possibly covered up?I just hope the 2021 Rams have the right combination of guys to allow Stafford to show off what he can really do, rather than cover up their deficiencies. 1 by aeneas1 3 years 10 months ago Total posts: 16894 Joined: Sep 13 2015 Norcal Hall of Fame Sean McVay, Jared Goff's Deteriorating Relationship Detailed in ESPN Report POST #159 Kid Charlamagne wrote:One thing we learned about Goff was that he wasn’t a guy who could cover up a team’s deficiencies which doesn’t bode well for the lions.well the rams defense gave up a whopping 45 points to the chiefs in 2018, quite a deficiency i would say, but got led the offense to 41 which not only avoided an embarrassing blowout but also won the game, and there were of course other examples... then you have stafford who arguably may very well be the poster child for guys who weren't able to cover up their team's deficiencies.that said, stafford is obviously a talented vet, and the marriage between he and mcvay is, at least on paper, stuff of championships according to more than a few talking heads, hopefully that will prove to be the case!in other news:1973 - hadl (born 02/15) joined the rams at the age of 33.2021 - stafford (born 02/07), joins the rams at the age of 33.hadl led the rams to #1 in offensive scoring, 12 wins, and the postseason, and earned first team all-pro honors for the first time in his career.can stafford match him? by CanuckRightWinger 3 years 10 months ago Total posts: 2777 Joined: Jan 13 2016 VANCOUVER, BC Superstar Sean McVay, Jared Goff's Deteriorating Relationship Detailed in ESPN Report POST #160 Elvis liked this post To build on that insightful A1 comparison on Hadl/Stafford...John Hadl had the pot-bellied physique of a Used Car Saleman, but he could sling the hog-bladder and read a Defense.....Body-wise Stafford is friggin' Adonis compared to the overweight (and short) John Hadl.Hadl fell off a horse in the offseason after his AllPro 1973 debut with Los Ramos......and Hadl hurt his back pretty badly, which affected his throwing motion and his zip on the ball, which Carroll Rosenbloom noticed in Rams TC practice in 1974. Next thing you know, Ram GM Don SmartestHorseTraderEver Klosterman trades Hadl to an unsuspecting Green Bay Franchise (HC Lindy Infante IIRC) for a huge boatload of Packer Draft Picks that setup the Knox dominance of t he NFC West until 1977. Rosenbloom and Klosterman were a helluva team back in the 1970s. Hopefully McSnead surpass their lofty achievements and win Ramsnation our much deserved SuperBowl!! Go Rams!! 1 Reply 16 / 22 1 16 22 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 213 posts Jul 07 2025
by Hacksaw 3 years 10 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Sean McVay, Jared Goff's Deteriorating Relationship Detailed in ESPN Report POST #157 In this equation 9 >16 GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by rams74 3 years 10 months ago Total posts: 1743 Joined: Nov 19 2015 Glendale, Arizona Pro Bowl Sean McVay, Jared Goff's Deteriorating Relationship Detailed in ESPN Report POST #158 Hacksaw liked this post Kid Charlamagne wrote:One thing we learned about Goff was that he wasn’t a guy who could cover up a team’s deficiencies which doesn’t bode well for the lions.I think you can say that about a lot of players. I'm not sure Stafford is that guy, either, to be honest. With all that losing in Detroit, how many of those deficiencies could he have possibly covered up?I just hope the 2021 Rams have the right combination of guys to allow Stafford to show off what he can really do, rather than cover up their deficiencies. 1 by aeneas1 3 years 10 months ago Total posts: 16894 Joined: Sep 13 2015 Norcal Hall of Fame Sean McVay, Jared Goff's Deteriorating Relationship Detailed in ESPN Report POST #159 Kid Charlamagne wrote:One thing we learned about Goff was that he wasn’t a guy who could cover up a team’s deficiencies which doesn’t bode well for the lions.well the rams defense gave up a whopping 45 points to the chiefs in 2018, quite a deficiency i would say, but got led the offense to 41 which not only avoided an embarrassing blowout but also won the game, and there were of course other examples... then you have stafford who arguably may very well be the poster child for guys who weren't able to cover up their team's deficiencies.that said, stafford is obviously a talented vet, and the marriage between he and mcvay is, at least on paper, stuff of championships according to more than a few talking heads, hopefully that will prove to be the case!in other news:1973 - hadl (born 02/15) joined the rams at the age of 33.2021 - stafford (born 02/07), joins the rams at the age of 33.hadl led the rams to #1 in offensive scoring, 12 wins, and the postseason, and earned first team all-pro honors for the first time in his career.can stafford match him? by CanuckRightWinger 3 years 10 months ago Total posts: 2777 Joined: Jan 13 2016 VANCOUVER, BC Superstar Sean McVay, Jared Goff's Deteriorating Relationship Detailed in ESPN Report POST #160 Elvis liked this post To build on that insightful A1 comparison on Hadl/Stafford...John Hadl had the pot-bellied physique of a Used Car Saleman, but he could sling the hog-bladder and read a Defense.....Body-wise Stafford is friggin' Adonis compared to the overweight (and short) John Hadl.Hadl fell off a horse in the offseason after his AllPro 1973 debut with Los Ramos......and Hadl hurt his back pretty badly, which affected his throwing motion and his zip on the ball, which Carroll Rosenbloom noticed in Rams TC practice in 1974. Next thing you know, Ram GM Don SmartestHorseTraderEver Klosterman trades Hadl to an unsuspecting Green Bay Franchise (HC Lindy Infante IIRC) for a huge boatload of Packer Draft Picks that setup the Knox dominance of t he NFC West until 1977. Rosenbloom and Klosterman were a helluva team back in the 1970s. Hopefully McSnead surpass their lofty achievements and win Ramsnation our much deserved SuperBowl!! Go Rams!! 1 Reply 16 / 22 1 16 22 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 213 posts Jul 07 2025
by rams74 3 years 10 months ago Total posts: 1743 Joined: Nov 19 2015 Glendale, Arizona Pro Bowl Sean McVay, Jared Goff's Deteriorating Relationship Detailed in ESPN Report POST #158 Hacksaw liked this post Kid Charlamagne wrote:One thing we learned about Goff was that he wasn’t a guy who could cover up a team’s deficiencies which doesn’t bode well for the lions.I think you can say that about a lot of players. I'm not sure Stafford is that guy, either, to be honest. With all that losing in Detroit, how many of those deficiencies could he have possibly covered up?I just hope the 2021 Rams have the right combination of guys to allow Stafford to show off what he can really do, rather than cover up their deficiencies. 1 by aeneas1 3 years 10 months ago Total posts: 16894 Joined: Sep 13 2015 Norcal Hall of Fame Sean McVay, Jared Goff's Deteriorating Relationship Detailed in ESPN Report POST #159 Kid Charlamagne wrote:One thing we learned about Goff was that he wasn’t a guy who could cover up a team’s deficiencies which doesn’t bode well for the lions.well the rams defense gave up a whopping 45 points to the chiefs in 2018, quite a deficiency i would say, but got led the offense to 41 which not only avoided an embarrassing blowout but also won the game, and there were of course other examples... then you have stafford who arguably may very well be the poster child for guys who weren't able to cover up their team's deficiencies.that said, stafford is obviously a talented vet, and the marriage between he and mcvay is, at least on paper, stuff of championships according to more than a few talking heads, hopefully that will prove to be the case!in other news:1973 - hadl (born 02/15) joined the rams at the age of 33.2021 - stafford (born 02/07), joins the rams at the age of 33.hadl led the rams to #1 in offensive scoring, 12 wins, and the postseason, and earned first team all-pro honors for the first time in his career.can stafford match him? by CanuckRightWinger 3 years 10 months ago Total posts: 2777 Joined: Jan 13 2016 VANCOUVER, BC Superstar Sean McVay, Jared Goff's Deteriorating Relationship Detailed in ESPN Report POST #160 Elvis liked this post To build on that insightful A1 comparison on Hadl/Stafford...John Hadl had the pot-bellied physique of a Used Car Saleman, but he could sling the hog-bladder and read a Defense.....Body-wise Stafford is friggin' Adonis compared to the overweight (and short) John Hadl.Hadl fell off a horse in the offseason after his AllPro 1973 debut with Los Ramos......and Hadl hurt his back pretty badly, which affected his throwing motion and his zip on the ball, which Carroll Rosenbloom noticed in Rams TC practice in 1974. Next thing you know, Ram GM Don SmartestHorseTraderEver Klosterman trades Hadl to an unsuspecting Green Bay Franchise (HC Lindy Infante IIRC) for a huge boatload of Packer Draft Picks that setup the Knox dominance of t he NFC West until 1977. Rosenbloom and Klosterman were a helluva team back in the 1970s. Hopefully McSnead surpass their lofty achievements and win Ramsnation our much deserved SuperBowl!! Go Rams!! 1 Reply 16 / 22 1 16 22 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 213 posts Jul 07 2025
by aeneas1 3 years 10 months ago Total posts: 16894 Joined: Sep 13 2015 Norcal Hall of Fame Sean McVay, Jared Goff's Deteriorating Relationship Detailed in ESPN Report POST #159 Kid Charlamagne wrote:One thing we learned about Goff was that he wasn’t a guy who could cover up a team’s deficiencies which doesn’t bode well for the lions.well the rams defense gave up a whopping 45 points to the chiefs in 2018, quite a deficiency i would say, but got led the offense to 41 which not only avoided an embarrassing blowout but also won the game, and there were of course other examples... then you have stafford who arguably may very well be the poster child for guys who weren't able to cover up their team's deficiencies.that said, stafford is obviously a talented vet, and the marriage between he and mcvay is, at least on paper, stuff of championships according to more than a few talking heads, hopefully that will prove to be the case!in other news:1973 - hadl (born 02/15) joined the rams at the age of 33.2021 - stafford (born 02/07), joins the rams at the age of 33.hadl led the rams to #1 in offensive scoring, 12 wins, and the postseason, and earned first team all-pro honors for the first time in his career.can stafford match him? by CanuckRightWinger 3 years 10 months ago Total posts: 2777 Joined: Jan 13 2016 VANCOUVER, BC Superstar Sean McVay, Jared Goff's Deteriorating Relationship Detailed in ESPN Report POST #160 Elvis liked this post To build on that insightful A1 comparison on Hadl/Stafford...John Hadl had the pot-bellied physique of a Used Car Saleman, but he could sling the hog-bladder and read a Defense.....Body-wise Stafford is friggin' Adonis compared to the overweight (and short) John Hadl.Hadl fell off a horse in the offseason after his AllPro 1973 debut with Los Ramos......and Hadl hurt his back pretty badly, which affected his throwing motion and his zip on the ball, which Carroll Rosenbloom noticed in Rams TC practice in 1974. Next thing you know, Ram GM Don SmartestHorseTraderEver Klosterman trades Hadl to an unsuspecting Green Bay Franchise (HC Lindy Infante IIRC) for a huge boatload of Packer Draft Picks that setup the Knox dominance of t he NFC West until 1977. Rosenbloom and Klosterman were a helluva team back in the 1970s. Hopefully McSnead surpass their lofty achievements and win Ramsnation our much deserved SuperBowl!! Go Rams!! 1 Reply 16 / 22 1 16 22 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 213 posts Jul 07 2025
by CanuckRightWinger 3 years 10 months ago Total posts: 2777 Joined: Jan 13 2016 VANCOUVER, BC Superstar Sean McVay, Jared Goff's Deteriorating Relationship Detailed in ESPN Report POST #160 Elvis liked this post To build on that insightful A1 comparison on Hadl/Stafford...John Hadl had the pot-bellied physique of a Used Car Saleman, but he could sling the hog-bladder and read a Defense.....Body-wise Stafford is friggin' Adonis compared to the overweight (and short) John Hadl.Hadl fell off a horse in the offseason after his AllPro 1973 debut with Los Ramos......and Hadl hurt his back pretty badly, which affected his throwing motion and his zip on the ball, which Carroll Rosenbloom noticed in Rams TC practice in 1974. Next thing you know, Ram GM Don SmartestHorseTraderEver Klosterman trades Hadl to an unsuspecting Green Bay Franchise (HC Lindy Infante IIRC) for a huge boatload of Packer Draft Picks that setup the Knox dominance of t he NFC West until 1977. Rosenbloom and Klosterman were a helluva team back in the 1970s. Hopefully McSnead surpass their lofty achievements and win Ramsnation our much deserved SuperBowl!! Go Rams!! 1 Reply 16 / 22 1 16 22 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business