[aeneas1]

I have no idea why you keep bringing up the Saints game in some effort to point out something about Goff.

in a previous post you suggested that things had to be perfect in order for goff to do well, i pointed to the saints game as one example of why i didn't believe that was the case, and i chose the saints game because of it's magnitude.... i'm not sure why you brought up the game again in your last post, didn't get what you were trying to say?

[Gareth]

back in the day i was a lombardi or nothing guy, but age has mellowed me considerably, i just want the rams to be competitive enough to make a championship run, and they've been that the last 4 years, even last year imo, so i've been a pretty damn happy camper since mcvay's arrival... that said, it does get frustrating when you believe that your competitive team is better than it's played, which has been the case the last couple of years for me, but it still beats the hell out of the many long, bleak stretches we've seen as rams fans!

Sums up my thoughts perfectly.

[Hacksaw]

2017: 7.97 yds per att
2018: 8.36 yds per att
2019: 7.41 yds per att
2020: 7.49 yds per att

A drop of 0.48 yds per attempt between 2017 and 2020
A drop of 0.87 yds per attempt between 2018 and 2020.

Scheme?
Crispness?
QB?
OL?
All of the above?

Interesting. His numbers aren't all that different but the offense sure looked different in that small sample size...

[PARAM]

I agree that comparing him to the numbers from '18 is unfair but I still think he has regressed. He is turning the ball over when he shouldn't be

Just curious. Is there a time he 'should he' be turning the ball over?

I fully recognize that I might be viewing it negatively

Finally, we're in agreement!!!

[PARAM]

And if Goff didn't throw a careless pick six...
Again.. an unforced, bad decision.

"An unforced bad decision?"

Has he made any forced bad decisions?

Just curious because I'd like to know how many of each he's had.

[PARAM]

I have no idea why you keep bringing up the Saints game in some effort to point out something about Goff.
Are you talking about bad conditions? Or when things go wrong for Goff? Because, other than Gurley's bonehead play, Things went well for Goff in that game.

Yeah, things were sparkling all day!!!

[PARAM]

On offense?
Well.. Gurley threw the ball into the oppositions' hands.. and he had the helmet issue to start the game.
Did he lose any players? What am I missing here? Was it a tough game in tough conditions? Also.. I guess you missed this.. I've repeatedly praised that performance over the years and pointed to it as an example of what he can be.

Really weird takes in defense of Goff today, guys. That performance was 2 years ago.

"Other than Gurley's bonehead play, things went well for Goff in that game." Revisionist history. But you're right, that was 2 years ago. No reason at all to paint it in a different light. It might be construed as a "weird take".

[PARAM]

Honestly.. what's your point? What's revisionist?

Your take that "other than Gurley's bonehead play, things went well for Goff in that game". If you mean they won, well yeah. But things went well for Goff because he made a ton of plays to make them go well. And that interception wasn't Gurley's only bad play. But like you said, two years ago....let it go.

You're hanging on that game as if it says something about who Goff is as a player right now? Good for you, here's a cookie.

I'm not hanging onto it. You commented on it falsely or your eyesight ain't so good. But that's okay, you have a point to make.

Me? I look at a guy who's making critical, game-altering mistakes that cost his team wins and that it's hard to see the Rams making it far in the playoffs with him as QB.

I see the same mistakes. I also see a guy who makes plays to get the "W". In 6 games his QB rating was 99 or higher. All wins. In another it was 94.8, another win. In 4 losses he's been bad. In other words, I see a guy who's been inconsistent and that has to change if we're going to make it to and win in the postseason. Shit the bed "repeatedly". Only if you remember just the losses. All 4 of them

Could it happen? Of course!!! He has the talent and that's why it's so frustrating to see him, repeatedly, shit the bed.

Ahh. The caveat. Just in case.

[aeneas1]

"Other than Gurley's bonehead play, things went well for Goff in that game." Revisionist history. But you're right, that was 2 years ago. No reason at all to paint it in a different light. It might be construed as a "weird take".

the weirdest take is trying to paint goff as some sort of turnover machine.... he's had 4 games in the last 27 where turnovers have come in bunches, and of course they're the games some immediately think of to support their case (bias?), but in 23 of the 27 games he's taken care of the ball better than 24 other guys/teams... but let's not consider that, instead let's decide that goff's a turnover machine and can't win unless everything is perfect, good grief.

goff's obviously been inconsistent this season, he started the year 4-1 and ranked 6th in qb rating and 4th in completion % during the stretch, since then he's gone 3-3 and booked three miserable games in the process.... hopefully he and mcvay can turn things around in the next 5 games and look strong, or at least better than average, on offense headed into the postseason.

[PARAM]

Caveat..

Holy shit.. I think you think you made a point?

Again.. you don't need to post. No one is forcing you to.

Really? Quote 1 word and then go all condescending. Good form dick. I've got two words for you. Ginkgo Biloba.