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Hope, that with new Rams OC Kevin O'Connell's help and input, that our OL and Running Game 2019 putrid stats (courtesy of Aaron Kromer) will be improved upon BigTime!!

Well except the way things work...no coordinator will make up for it if the OL coach actually IS bad.

Though it is convenient to set up a way out now. When the Rams OL improves, as implausible as it will sound at that point you can still always say it was O'Connell. (Which will ignore the fact that the coordinator in 2019 was McVay of course but what the hey.)

[CanuckRightWinger]

Speaking of "except the way things work" ….
um, a question for the author of the "it wasn't Kromer's OL yutes who failed in 2019, it was the regression of the veteran OTs" excuse:

Who was the Position Coach for Andrew Whitworth and Rob Havenstein in 2019?

Hint: It was NOT Rich Kotite!!

Did Kroenke not also pay Kromer to coach up Whit and Hav for 2019?

….and BTW, you're right! That's actually 2 questions!

Oh, and a third question:
How the hell could Los Ramos OL NOT IMPROVE for 2020 huh?
Tough to mathematically tube even further in a 32 Team League for 2020 eh, when Kromer's 2019 rankings were OL 31st per PFF and RunGame 30th Tie per ESPN stats.

[PARAM]

It was Kromer.

Who was their coach in 17 & 18?

Oh but everything was perfect those years. Anybody can be an NFL OL coach if they inherit an awesome OL. It's easy!!!! That's why he did so well in Buffalo. Everything was perfect!!!!

[CanuckRightWinger]

Hope and Western New York History
One hopes that maybe Kromer can recapture that Buffalo PixieDust Magic he sprinkled back-when....
but now here in LA, only this time with the guidance & firm hand of his younger & less-experienced new boss, Ram OC O'Connell, for Los Ramos here in 2020.

The Here & Now
Our best Ram OLineman, Andrew Whitworth asserted recently on a national broadcast that the assessment of Noteboom & Allen being able to perform in 2019 at a Saffold&Sullivan level, was unreasonable. He also said Rams 2019 problems boiled down to that issue.

ME: I take Whitworth to be knowledgeable and also to not be dishonest......so I take Whit at his word.....AND ALSO BECAUSE HIS STATEMENT MATCHED WHAT MY OWN EYES SAW FROM OUR INEFFECTIVE RAM 2019 OLINE. IE. WE DIDN'T PUSH ANYBODY AROUND.....WE GOT PUSHED AROUND!!

There are some here who wish to FreePass Aaron Kromer and take him right out of the 2019 OLine assessing process...
whereas I see Rams OL Coach/Run Co-Ordinator Aaron Kromer's fingerprints all over this debacle!

In short, Kromer's poor assessment of Boom, Allen, Demby et al, resulted in 30th and 31st rankings in PFF OL and YPC stats, respectively.....and IMO was a major negative factor in Los Ramos missing the 2019 NFL Playoffs.

[safer]

Seriously, Whit could have been meaning that the loss of Saffold was not something that either Noteboom or Allen could replace, right? That's a fair assessment of what he said. Saffold, while not all-pro, is just below that level and is a OG stud. Losing a player of that magnitude (due to salary cap ramifications) left our team with less talent upfront, than we had the previous two years. Will we have to take the same chance this year and let Fowler, Jr walk? I'd much rather we re-sign Littleton, than Fowler, if not for the reason that we have much more, young, somewhat unproven talent behind him than we do Cory. So if our olbers don't perform to Fowler's ability, is it the position coach? I say that question is somewhat "gray" due to the dynamics of many factors, in how that position group performs. What IF Snead had decided to re-sign Saffold and let Fowler, jr walk? The salary cap is a crap shoot, to some degree, isn't it?

[Hacksaw]

Our best Ram OLineman, Andrew Whitworth asserted recently on a national broadcast that the assessment of Noteboom & Allen being able to perform in 2019 at a Saffold&Sullivan level, was unreasonable. He also said Rams 2019 problems boiled down to that issue.

ME: I take Whitworth to be knowledgeable and also to not be dishonest......so I take Whit at his word.....AND ALSO BECAUSE HIS STATEMENT MATCHED WHAT MY OWN EYES SAW FROM OUR INEFFECTIVE RAM 2019 OLINE. IE. WE DIDN'T PUSH ANYBODY AROUND.....WE GOT PUSHED AROUND!! ]

Exactly !

There are some here who wish to FreePass Aaron Kromer and take him right out of the 2019 OLine assessing process...

He was certainly involved but he was not alone. The GM / HC et al, also have input when it comes to personnel. I really doubt they solely took AK's word for it though.
He is also a common denominator for this line over the last 3 years when the line was both good for 2 years and not so good last year.
The personnel on last years Oline can not be considered a common denominator when there were so many players that changed.

In short, Kromer's poor assessment of Boom, Allen, Demby et al, resulted in 30th and 31st rankings in PFF OL and YPC stats, respectively.....and IMO was a major negative factor in Los Ramos missing the 2019 NFL Playoffs.

This again is a bit of an assumption that he was so instrumental in THE decision process regarding his group. He most certainly weighed in. No doubt. That's part of his job so he clearly has some culpability.

Of course the conversation could have sounded like, Snead: "Aaron, we are losing Rodger to the cap and have no dough to replace his level of talent. Can you work with whats left?" Kromer: Only if Note improves some and the line stays healthy again." Which didn't happen.

Again I'm certain he has some culpability in the process but I have a hard time giving the guy the hook under the circumstances last year. Especially when he appeared to shine for 2 consecutive years prior.

Seriously, Whit could have been meaning that the loss of Saffold was not something that either Noteboom or Allen could replace, right? That's a fair assessment of what he said. Saffold, while not all-pro, is just below that level and is a OG stud. Losing a player of that magnitude (due to salary cap ramifications) left our team with less talent upfront, than we had the previous two years.

I'm Hacksaw and I approve this message.

[snackdaddy]

Two good years. One bad year. With Whitworth being the only consistency all year as far as staying healthy. The other 4 positions were a guy moved to a different position and 3 new starters by mid season. I suppose it really should not be surprising. We can point to other teams who fared ok with line changes. But we might as well point to the Chiefs/Mahomes and say "They did it. Why didn't we?"

[CanuckRightWinger]

Thanks Hacksaw for your reasoned position of:
"Why Kromer does not deserve to get the hook for 2020."

I think I get it....
Kromer had SOME culpability for Los Ramos lousy 2019 OLine, but not enough to warrant his termination for 2020, right?.

So like I've posted before to others.....we seem to disagree on Kromer, but "no harm, no foul." We're here to express our opinions, they don't always match, so no biggee…..Vive Les Differences!

Where I take umbrage is where people project...ie. since I'm critical of Kromer, then it is ILLOGICAL of me to not be critical of McVay. I am somehow deficient because I didn't diss McVay.
It's that labelling that's irksome to me.

Oh yeah
….and thanks for not calling me "Claude Rains"!

[CanuckRightWinger]

Then YOU criticize McVay if you find him deficient Dick!!
It's not hard....you just need to start a thread.

For my part, I started my diss threads on Wade and Kromer....a long time ago!

Guys want to counter my anti-Kromer digs? Defend Kromer till the cows come home if you want to....
….but don't try to tell me who I should diss next okay?

Adults call that "projection" and FYI, it tends to pizz guys off!

[CanuckRightWinger]

You know....and this is an observation and not a projection:

Your posts are all pulp and no stats, no research, no logic.....
just judgemental pulp.

I will not be responding to any more of your time-wasting tripe.
I've got better things to do.