[moklerman]

so it's your position that the rams, on their own, had no real uniform plan, and at the eleventh hour incompetently mucked things up trying to throw something together? that they have a proven track record when it comes to incompetence, and the current uniform sitch is just another example? and now they're pointing to the league, as they often do according to you, as a scapegoat?

Do you look at the uniforms and think any differently? Do they suggest a competent group making those decision?

[moklerman]

Just in case you're interested in having your facts straight, here's an article from a year ago:

Why do you choose to reduce this to what happened from just a year ago?

The spent millions preparing for the move and researching whether or not it was worth while. In all of that, how did they not realize the fans would (continue) to hate what the uniforms had evolved into since 2000? Why give them so much credit for having a plan if the plan was so weak that they were willing to change it after one year back at the Coliseum?

There are just too many examples from the past decade or so of them not handling the uniform situation properly to suddenly assume they've got it all under control. I certainly don't believe that their plan all along(since 2013?) was to not have new uniforms until 2019/2020.

[aeneas1]

Do you look at the uniforms and think any differently? Do they suggest a competent group making those decision?

i look at those unis and think the rams braintrust planned to introduce new unis when they set up shop in their new digs, but were blown away by how excited and passionate rams fans were about the return, and wanted to add to the excitement, so they tried to do away with the st. louis look as much as possible in year two, before they wanted to, and gave the fans classic blue/white, but league rules limited what they could do.

should they have just waited until the new stadium was ready to don new unis? worn the st. louis unis until then? i suppose they could have done that.

should they have introduced the new unis before the stadium was ready? and moved into the new stadium with those new unis? i suppose that was an option.

should they have planned to have two sets of new unis ready, one set for their return to l.a., which would have been ditched for the second set when they moved into the stadium? doesn't seem very practical.

[moklerman]

i look at those unis and think the rams braintrust planned to introduce new unis when they set up shop in their new digs, but were blown away by how excited and passionate rams fans were about the return, and wanted to add to the excitement, so they tried to do away with the st. louis look as much as possible in year two, before they wanted to, and gave the fans classic blue/white, but league rules limited what they could do.

should they have just waited until the new stadium was ready to don new unis? worn the st. louis unis until then? i suppose they could have done that.

should they have introduced the new unis before the stadium was ready? and moved into the new stadium with those new unis? i suppose that was an option.

should they have planned to have two sets of new unis ready, one set for their return to l.a., which would have been ditched for the second set when they moved into the stadium? doesn't seem very practical.

Would it really have taken a Nostradamus level of precognition to have the throwbacks ready for 2016? Does it take a marketing genius to realize that the St. Louis uniforms, even if they were liked(which they weren't) would probably need to be switched out once back in LA?

What's being argued here is that the Rams' plan was to stick with the blueberries until 2019/2020 but they were blindsided, right?

Excuse me for criticizing such a brilliant plan.

[aeneas1]

Would it really have taken a Nostradamus level of precognition to have the throwbacks ready for 2016? Does it take a marketing genius to realize that the St. Louis uniforms, even if they were liked(which they weren't) would probably need to be switched out once back in LA?

What's being argued here is that the Rams' plan was to stick with the blueberries until 2019/2020 but they were blindsided, right?

Excuse me for criticizing such a brilliant plan.

honestly, your grasp of the timeline, and the league rules, and the rams intentions, seems to be off center, just sayin'.

[majik]

I remember that article which is why I grow tired of the BS coming out of Demoff’s mouth about the uniform change.

They could have applied for a change the year they moved back under the special circumstances if the move. They chose not to due to this insane rebranding with the new stadium. It’s almost as if they think the stadium is going to be a flop so let’s doing the uniform change at the same time to cushion the blow

[St. Loser Fan]

I remember that article which is why I grow tired of the BS coming out of Demoff’s mouth about the uniform change.

Demoff has never ever lied in Los Angeles. He only lied in St. Louis because we were mean to him and forced him to lie.

If Demoff says they’ve done everything they can to change uniforms, then we should believe everything he says and accept it.

[Elvis]

Excuse me for criticizing such a brilliant plan.

Like i said many pages ago, you may think it's a bad plan, but you should at least have your facts straight and not just make shit up.

That's all i ask.

As for the article from one year ago which apparently you didn't read, it says:

Fourteen months ago, Demoff told The Times, "Our focus has always been on introducing new uniforms the year we open a new stadium. That's the opportune time to shape your brand."

Since the move to L.A., Demoff and the Rams have been clear about their plan. No secret, no changes: New uniforms with the new stadium.

Even in 2013, before Kroenke bought the land at Hollywood Park, before the Rams filed for relocation, before they were approved for relocation, before they moved, Demoff mused about a uniform change within 5 years.

With all that's happened since then, 2019 is 6 years from 2013.

There's just no there there...

[majik]

The Rams are not a bottle of ketchup, you don’t need to “rebrand” them.

You “rebrand” by doing what they have been doing since hiring McVay, produce a winning team.

[BuiltRamTough]

Like i said many pages ago, you may think it's a bad plan, but you should at least have your facts straight and not just make shit up.

That's all i ask.

As for the article from one year ago which apparently you didn't read, it says:

Fourteen months ago, Demoff told The Times, "Our focus has always been on introducing new uniforms the year we open a new stadium. That's the opportune time to shape your brand."

Since the move to L.A., Demoff and the Rams have been clear about their plan. No secret, no changes: New uniforms with the new stadium.

Even in 2013, before Kroenke bought the land at Hollywood Park, before the Rams filed for relocation, before they were approved for relocation, before they moved, Demoff mused about a uniform change within 5 years.

With all that's happened since then, 2019 is 6 years from 2013.

There's just not there there...

You’re wasting your time. He’s still going to fight you off on it lol