[aeneas1]

Under the arm is tighter but that doesn't really impact the horns going up the side of the jersey. Seems like there is plenty of room to do the horns right to me.

not only has sleeve size been reduced significantly over the past 20 years (to prevent grabbing), but so has shoulder pad size, just a lot less real estate to work with, and those classic sleeve horns need a lot of real estate to look nice... but if you can think of a way to get the same effect with the current sleeve / shoulder pad sizes, i'd certainly co-sign your design!

[aeneas1]

the horns are wider on the youth helmets, they appear wider because they are wider, not because the youth shells are smaller than adults shells.

[moklerman]

I agree that there is less real estate but that is why I chose backs and receivers as an example rather than Warner. He wasn't exactly the "modern" look even when he was playing. But, even though there is far less sleeve and the shoulder pads are narrower, I think there is still plenty of room to do it right(the limitations of my photoshopping skills notwithstanding) :



Keep in mind, these are just quickies. Another part of the problem with the current jersey is the overly thick collar. And, I doubt if I got the lines just perfect in terms of the shape but I think the idea that there isn't enough room to do the classic horns on the jerseys isn't true. And I was going right along the current seams of the jersey to try and make it as practical as possible.

[moklerman]

the horns are wider on the youth helmets, they appear wider because they are wider, not because the youth shells are smaller than adults shells.

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You're right. Even with the helmets made more relative in size, the horns on the NFL helmet are far skinnier than the youth helmet. God, how they've screwed up the horns.

[Hacksaw]

Mok is right imo. The Nike shoulder 'horn' (I use that term loosely) doesn't run down the front of the jersey in front of the arm and terminate vertically on the side seam as it did. Nike decided to curl it up on the shoulder pad which looks dumb.
I prefer @moklerman's photoshop.

[aeneas1]

Mok is right imo. The Nike shoulder 'horn' (I use that term loosely) doesn't run down the front of the jersey in front of the arm and terminate vertically on the side seam as it did. Nike decided to curl it up on the shoulder pad which looks dumb.
I prefer moklerman's photoshop.

ok, i see what you guys are talking about... to me the rams unique sleeve horn design has always been about the section of the stripe that curves around the sleeve number as shown below - in 1973 the rams took the classic varsity shoulder stripe design they had used for years and turned it into a horn.

imo if the rams can't make the horn that circles the sleeve number look good, which i think is absolutely impossible because of today's much smaller sleeves and shoulder pads, i don't see the point of even trying... instead just go back to the classic varsity shoulder stripes and forget the horn section, which i've advocated in the past.

[Hacksaw]

ok, i see what you guys are talking about... to me the rams unique sleeve horn design has always been about the section of the stripe that curves around the sleeve number as shown below - in 1973 the rams took the classic varsity shoulder stripe design they had used for years and turned it into a horn.

imo if the rams can't make the horn that circles the sleeve number look good, which i think is absolutely impossible because of today's much smaller sleeves and shoulder pads, i don't see the point of even trying... instead just go back to the classic varsity shoulder stripes and forget the horn section, which i've advocated in the past.

Agreed, best alternative. I think the stripes are the direction they will go.

I really hope the Rams go back to a white uni scheme similar to what Warner is wearing.. Those were always my fav's, , , but all we got was the blues.

[max]

I fear Demoff is in over his head on the new uniforms.

The scary part is that I suspect he believes he knows what looks good.

I've been told that the plan is a completely new look. It won’t be red and green, but it won’t look anything like the classic blue and yellow.

[DirtyFacedKid]

Spitballing here but I'm picturing (not hoping for) something closer to dark blue/black and yellow similar to the current throwback helmet color with flat/matte treatment on the helmets and matching dark facemasks.

[Hacksaw]

I fear Demoff is in over his head on the new uniforms.

The scary part is that I suspect he believes he knows what looks good.

I've been told that the plan is a completely new look. It won’t be red and green, but it won’t look anything like the classic blue and yellow.

Who told you that? Vinny?