[Hacksaw]

I certainly won't argue the mediocrity his W-L record indicates. Can't. If there is not an better coach that has a philosophy which fits our players, I see it going backwards, at least at this juncture. After a season in LA and if things don't improve (new OC) then I'd be on board. A lot of attractiveness in a LA coaching position I'd guess. Fish knows how to coach on the move too.

Regarding the comment about being "scared" to make a change and being a "cowardly way to proceed", those words were also heard from a guy who's parachute didn't open because he forgot to check it first, just before he hit the ground.

It's OK to agree to disagree too...

[Stranger]

Stranger,, I only ask because if we are cutting Fisher we need it to be an upgrade. Sure are a lot of middle of the pack teams, I don't see the division winners cutting their coaches loose and the bottom tier (like the EJD) aren't who we'd want any way.
To me it's just too risky to start over now. Get offensive minded and hire a stud OC. Wasn't Turner recently available?
We also need WR's that can get open and our QB needs to read faster.

I'm actually cool with keeping Fisher if he'll let a stud OC in the door and hand him the keys. But I just don't see that happening. Hopefully, we can have a repeat of the Vermeil episode and Fisher will finally see and act upon his shortcomings. I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

[AltiTude Ram]

Umm... the BENGALS HAVE BEEN MAKING THE PLAYOFFS CONSISTENTLY. THERE'S NO COMPARISON.

Yeah but they can't win a playoff game. There were plenty of fans calling for Lewis' head the past couple of years. Again, they look like one of the best teams in the league this year. We will have to wait and see if they win a playoff game but sticking with their coach has been a good thing.

Teams that panic and keep changing coaches are the teams that never seem to get it right. Look at Miami firing their coach....SF letting Harbaugh go....Lions have been rebuilding since 1954 other than the Wayne Fontes era. It's a huge list of teams with knee jerk moves but look at the teams that are successful and you will see they stuck with their man. Pittsburgh stuck with Cower after a mediocre start and he rewarded them with a couple of Super Bowls.

There's zero comparison. Zero. None. Sorry.
I wouldn't have been one calling for for Lewis to be fired, btw.

Being scared you can't make a better choice is a flat-out terrible and cowardly way to proceed.

SF firing their coach was pure craziness and the sign of great hubris. They deserve what they're getting.

Sorry.... I've been done with Fisher and nothing's changing my mind this season.

I can see a comparison as far as sticking with a mediocre coaching resume and getting results. Again, it's stability.

At least acknowledge that the Bengals have stuck with their coach and he's missed the playoffs in the past and hasn't won a playoff game recently. Maybe apples and oranges but my point was stability and coaches rumored on the hot seat in the past.

I can see your Fisher hate is clouding your vision. Do you want to relive the Linehan/Spags years? We have a very good coach and sticking with him will allow his players to continue to grow up in the NFL.

Throwing a temper tantrum because we lost a road game in OT with some key players not available isn't making sense. Fire everyone because you had a bad day. I hope your employer doesn't react in the same way.

Make corrections and continue the course. Fisher has this team headed in the right direction and it's in much better position then it's been in quite awhile. Firing the coach will only set us back IMO

[Elvis]

Fisher's not going anywhere until relocation is settled.

I agree he's mediocre but he's in a weird sweet spot with the Rams where mediocre is plenty good, for now.

I really disagree with Hacksaw on this issue. This is the NFL and the goal is to be great, to win championships. You don't keep a guy just because it could be worse. There are a lot of times when that kind of thinking makes sense, but not professional sports which is ultimately entertainment. You go for the gold...

[snackdaddy]

Well this loss mighta ended any playoff hopes. Which in turn will cause local fans to lose interest. Which in turn will cause an already poor attendance record to get even worse. Which in turn will give the Rams more ammo to justify a move.

[Stranger]

Zimmer is pissed, and taking shots at our DC

http://www.nfl.com/videos/minnesota-vik ... ridgewater

[Stranger]

Yeah but they can't win a playoff game. There were plenty of fans calling for Lewis' head the past couple of years. Again, they look like one of the best teams in the league this year. We will have to wait and see if they win a playoff game but sticking with their coach has been a good thing.

Teams that panic and keep changing coaches are the teams that never seem to get it right. Look at Miami firing their coach....SF letting Harbaugh go....Lions have been rebuilding since 1954 other than the Wayne Fontes era. It's a huge list of teams with knee jerk moves but look at the teams that are successful and you will see they stuck with their man. Pittsburgh stuck with Cower after a mediocre start and he rewarded them with a couple of Super Bowls.

There's zero comparison. Zero. None. Sorry.
I wouldn't have been one calling for for Lewis to be fired, btw.

Being scared you can't make a better choice is a flat-out terrible and cowardly way to proceed.

SF firing their coach was pure craziness and the sign of great hubris. They deserve what they're getting.

Sorry.... I've been done with Fisher and nothing's changing my mind this season.

I can see a comparison as far as sticking with a mediocre coaching resume and getting results. Again, it's stability.

At least acknowledge that the Bengals have stuck with their coach and he's missed the playoffs in the past and hasn't won a playoff game recently. Maybe apples and oranges but my point was stability and coaches rumored on the hot seat in the past.

I can see your Fisher hate is clouding your vision. Do you want to relive the Linehan/Spags years? We have a very good coach and sticking with him will allow his players to continue to grow up in the NFL.

Throwing a temper tantrum because we lost a road game in OT with some key players not available isn't making sense. Fire everyone because you had a bad day. I hope your employer doesn't react in the same way.

Make corrections and continue the course. Fisher has this team headed in the right direction and it's in much better position then it's been in quite awhile. Firing the coach will only set us back IMO

for me, even the wins are hard to watch. i simply dont enjoy John Robinson/Jeff Fisher football, win or lose.

[Elvis]

for me, even the wins are hard to watch. i simply dont enjoy John Robinson/Jeff Fisher football, win or lose.

I don't have a problem with winning ugly. Jeff Fisher/John Robinson football may not be my favorite model. But if you can win with it, it's all good.

Jeff Fisher has yet to win with it as a Ram. We want to compare Jeff Fisher to John Robinson? Right now, that's not fair to John Robinson...

[AltiTude Ram]

There's zero comparison. Zero. None. Sorry.
I wouldn't have been one calling for for Lewis to be fired, btw.

Being scared you can't make a better choice is a flat-out terrible and cowardly way to proceed.

SF firing their coach was pure craziness and the sign of great hubris. They deserve what they're getting.

Sorry.... I've been done with Fisher and nothing's changing my mind this season.

I can see a comparison as far as sticking with a mediocre coaching resume and getting results. Again, it's stability.

At least acknowledge that the Bengals have stuck with their coach and he's missed the playoffs in the past and hasn't won a playoff game recently. Maybe apples and oranges but my point was stability and coaches rumored on the hot seat in the past.

I can see your Fisher hate is clouding your vision. Do you want to relive the Linehan/Spags years? We have a very good coach and sticking with him will allow his players to continue to grow up in the NFL.

Throwing a temper tantrum because we lost a road game in OT with some key players not available isn't making sense. Fire everyone because you had a bad day. I hope your employer doesn't react in the same way.

Make corrections and continue the course. Fisher has this team headed in the right direction and it's in much better position then it's been in quite awhile. Firing the coach will only set us back IMO

Marvin Lewis won his division his third year as head coach. Jeff Fisher went 6-10.
Jeff Fisher has had 5 consecutive seasons as .500 or lower record.

Hate Fisher? Please. I wanted him. Twice.
I'm also willing/able to trust my eyes as well as other empirical evidence that he is horrifically mediocre.

I just don't get why Rams fans can't call what they see in front of them. A team whose roster is better than its outcomes.

Whatever....there really isn't any fix for stupid.

Since 2003 taking over the Bengals Lewis has had 2 winning seasons up until 2009 and no playoff wins. He's also had a losing record up until the last 4 years that resulted in zero playoff wins. I'm in no way saying he's a bad coach...just saying the knee jerk response by your crowd is wrong.

Last time I checked Fisher only has 3 years as the Rams coach. Adding false information only proves your ignorance. Admit it...you hate Fisher or have a weird craving for something different.

As I've stated, something different is Not a good thing when dealing with NFL coaches. It's well proven that stability is the answer and knee jerk reactions with multiple head coaching changes set your organisation back several years.

Please feel free to continue your Fisher bashing but as a long time Ram fan...I can see the team is much better since he took over.

[AltiTude Ram]

Umm... the BENGALS HAVE BEEN MAKING THE PLAYOFFS CONSISTENTLY. THERE'S NO COMPARISON.

So by your comparison it would only take one double digit win and no playoff win to be successful? Lewis was a big time under achiever and has now turned the Bengals into a perennial playoff team.


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Year Age Tm Lg G W L T W-L% G plyf W plyf L plyf W-L% Rank Num Won Notes
2003 45 Cincinnati Bengals NFL 16 8 8 0 .500 2 5 1
2004 46 Cincinnati Bengals NFL 16 8 8 0 .500 3 3 2
2005 47 Cincinnati Bengals NFL 16 11 5 0 .688 1 0 1 .000 1 4 1
2006 48 Cincinnati Bengals NFL 16 8 8 0 .500 2 7 2
2007 49 Cincinnati Bengals NFL 16 7 9 0 .438 3 11 1
2008 50 Cincinnati Bengals NFL 16 4 11 1 .267 3 5 4

After the 4-11 2008 season you would've brought out the pitch forks and fried him.

Patience is a virtue and some don't have it.