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 by snackdaddy
2 years 8 months ago
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United States of America   Merced California
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The problem with trying to upgrade the OL at this point of the season is continuity. I honestly don't think a vet lineman is gonna make a difference for at least a few games. Possibly could make things worse. If that's possible.

Even if all 5 starters got healthy and played the rest of the season our line would still be subpar. McVay's gonna have to get creative every game to mitigate the deficiencies. Getting Robinson on the same page with Stafford and more involved would certainly help. I don't see Jefferson as any kind of savior. He's a typical WR3.

In my opinion finding a decent edge rusher and/or decent running back would make a bigger difference than a vet lineman a team doesn't want.

 by Elvis
2 years 8 months ago
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United States of America   Los Angeles
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You know it’s funny, or maybe sad, when people would complain about the Rams lack of depth based on how they looked in preseason i'd usually counter with something like, "you'd have a great point if the Rams had to play all of their backups at the same time" and well, here we are...

 by ramsman34
2 years 8 months ago
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United States of America   Back in LA baby!
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Yep. Here we are. Understand what snack is saying about continuity. Not wrong either. But vets can get it quickly. If they got WYN AND Tunsil, our OL options and overall talent would significantly improve. Pipe dream however.

 by 69RamFan
2 years 8 months ago
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United States of America   LA CA by way of NY/NJ
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JackPMiller wrote:I said, don't sleep on Solomon Kindley. He is a big man. He is 6'5" 335. He is 25. I feel with the right coach, he'll be a good fit. I remember watching him in Georgia, and I liked him. Just need to be given a chance. I'm also OK, with Ereck Flowers.


The reason why I didn't set my sights on him,

As you stated, with the right coaching staff he could be a good fit.

But that takes time with an unexperience player.

We need experience players for this season,

We can't be waisting time with backup players and training someone new to our OL.

We have a small window with AD, 2 to 3yrs before he retires.

Our Defense is playing SB calibar defense,

We just need to upgrade our OL with skill and experience linemen.

so we can utilize our whole Skill set of players on offense.

If the OL can't win in the trenches,

Then we can't show off our skill players.

We need to open up holes our our RBs

We need to pass protect for our QB,

to give him time to scan the field to hit the open WR/TE.

It opens up the whole playbook that McVay wants to use. IMO

 by 69RamFan
2 years 8 months ago
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United States of America   LA CA by way of NY/NJ
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snackdaddy wrote:The problem with trying to upgrade the OL at this point of the season is continuity. I honestly don't think a vet lineman is gonna make a difference for at least a few games. Possibly could make things worse. If that's possible.


I totally understand about continuity,

Thats why I stated, taking a good vet with experience,

Because they will have a better chance of jelly faster,

At the same time, McVay could workout his schemes to help the OL,

until the OL improves as the season moves on and they start to jell,

then he can start utilizing his whole playbook by the end of the season and playoffs.

 by ramsman34
2 years 8 months ago
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United States of America   Back in LA baby!
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How would Tunsil and Wynn work for ya if Snead could pull it off?

 by 69RamFan
2 years 8 months ago
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United States of America   LA CA by way of NY/NJ
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ramsman34 wrote:How would Tunsil and Wynn work for ya if Snead could pull it off?



I would take Fisher & Flowers before I take those two,

Reason being, Tunsil's contract is massive and he would cost to much in trade value.

Wynn would most likely play on the inside, but once again,

too small for the inside in my opinion.

So he would be a waist to trade for and give up a draft pick,

Where as Fisher & Flowers, wouldn't cost us any draft picks,

both are experience Vets, and their contracts wouldn't cost as much. IMO

 by CanuckRightWinger
2 years 8 months ago
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Canada   VANCOUVER, BC
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I posted about OG Ereck FailedNYGTackle Flowers as a potential Ram OL acquisition back in PreSeason when I noticed him near the top of the spotrac.com Free Agents List, and was surprised at how many OG snaps Flowers had logged in 2021. Seems a year ago now....sadly. :|

For a coupla smart guys, it seems to me that McSnead overlooked the bitter Ram lesson of 2019 where they let Rodger Saffold and John Sullivan walk (and per Andrew Whitworth to Colin Cowherd "unreasonably expected two yutes to succesfully replace them"). Well folks, following our SBLVI win last February, we lost Andrew FutureHOFer Whitworth, who is a superior talent to Saffold, and we lost Austin $29PantherMillions Corbett, who's a superior talent to John Sullivan. :idea2:

Our weak OL in 2019 left us out of the Playoffs....so one wudda thought that McSnead might've reflected upon the line "FookMe, once burnt, twice shy" no?
I mean, especially when annointed Ram RG-of-the-Future Logan BadgerAlum Bruss went on season-ending IR in the second PreSeason game. BTW, after watching Bruss flop around like Lou Costello in that Frankenstein movie in PreSeason, did anybody else wonder why Ram scouts were going all gah-gah poolside at RocketMortgage RamDraftBunker because Bruss had dropped to us a #104?? :?

Anyhoo.....even after Logan McVay"NFLStarter" Bruss went down for 2022, Los Ramos braintrust held the course on that McSnead mantra of "relax, we've got ample 2022 OL talent and depth in-house".

Some Facts:
"Talentwise", our 5th year vet Noteboom got smacked around on National TV by the Bills....badly. At the time of his injury nine days ago, Noteboom led all NFL OLs in QB sacks, hits & hurries given up.......so, not exactly the type of Trifecta one wants to be sporting eh! :oops2:
OL Talentwise, our OL rush-blocking performance has the 2022 Los Ramos in total rush yds gained and ypc at the bottom of the NFL.
OL Talentwise, in pass protection, our 34 year old QB Matthew Stafford is being beaten like a piece of veal at Luigi's Trattoria, to the point his Life Insurance company now wants Stafford to pay the same lofty monthly premiums as Nigerian ebola-virus nurses and those Bering Sea KingCrab fisherman!! :shock2: :arrow2: :o

As I have written, the NFL Salary Cap prohibits us from having superstars at every position, we ALL get that......
but IMHO McSnead have rolled the dice on OL talent and expenditure before and gotten away with it.....like in 2021 when our OL run-blocking versus the 49ers and Bengals, looked like they were doing it as only a hobby......yet in spite of a shitty rushing game (to the point where even McVay solemnly declared in SBLVI "I'm not running it anymore!").....
we nevertheless won the Lombardi. 8-)

You'd think that after struggling so badly trying to run the ball versus Playoff Defenses like SF and Cincy, and BTW with Whitworth and Corbett both on deck versus both the 49ers and Bengals....that after then losing those two Ram OL studs, that maybe you'd consider spending more than a #104 pick on Reinforcements, n'est-ce pas??? :?
PERPLEXING, NO??? :?2:
.....and no, I do not think I know more than McSnead....
nor, do I think they both got into off-season hallucigen sampling with Aaron Rodgers....
but I do think that McSnead rolled the dice once too often here, and that they bet on "gelling & good coaching" could overcome subpar Ram OL talent for 2022. To me, they had to cheap-out somewhere, so they figured that with McVay's, Coen's and Olson's collective OffensiveSmarts that they could "scheme their way past any Ram 2022 OL weaknesses". Now admittedly, the Fat Lady hasn't sung yet.....lotsa football left.....but dammit, these Ram OL guys better not get Matthew SBLVIWinnerForUs Stafford injured this season.....or I'll tell you all what I really think!!! :x

I also think guys like max were 100% right in sounding the alarm early about the Ram OL being the potential Achille'sHeel of 2022 Ram fortunes.
I also think that the legion of Rams Fans who were annoyed about Atwell over Creed Humphrey at #57 in 2021 had their NFL Draft gyro-compasses adjusted exactly to spec, and that also...
Snead may be thinking about new tweaks/adjustments to his "BobbyWagner Rule" right about now.

Like Elvis wrote:
Here we are. :| :arrow2: :idea2:

Go Rams! Neutralize The Niners!!! :!2: :!2: :!2:

 by Elvis
2 years 8 months ago
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United States of America   Los Angeles
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Rams just won the SB with Brian Allen at center and David Edwards at left guard. If only they'd kept Saffold and Sullivan who know what they might've accomplished?

2020 center, Austin Blythe is currently starting for the Seahawks and their offense is doing pretty well.

 by PARAM
2 years 8 months ago
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Barbados   Just far enough North of Philadelphia
Hall of Fame

Maybe it's all Kromer's fault!!!!

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