[Hacksaw]

It should be interesting and equal footing since we both will be starting this upcoming season with rookie head coaches. I will give us a slight nod because we have deeper pockets for free agency. Our owner is not gonna be burdened with associated moving cost as well as we can afford to take bigger salary cap hits to clean out our roster and sign free agents. If need be of course.

Agreed Legends,, oh and there is that little factoid that we have a 50 year history here too.

[Elvis]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... -l-a-logo/

Chargers admit mistake, ditch initial L.A. logo

Posted by Mike Florio on January 14, 2017, 1:29 PM EST

Not long after the Chargers announced their move to Los Angeles, they unveiled a new logo. It didn’t go well.

To their credit, the Chargers heard the criticism, they agreed with it, and they have taken action. The much-criticized L.A. logo, which appeared to be based on the Dodgers’ logo, is gone.

“The logo that was revealed on Thursday was meant to help launch our brand into the market and supplement — not replace — our official team marks,” Chargers president of business operations A.G. Spanos said in a statement provided to PFT. “Clearly, we miscalculated how the logo would be received, and we’ve taken it out of the rotation.”

A.G. Spanos emphasized that this is the identity of the team. “If we make a mistake, we own it, learn from it, and move on without looking back,” he said.

Spanos said that the team may “take another shot” at an L.A. logo “down the road,” and that the franchise is considering ways to involve the community’s voice in the process.

“If the ultimate outcome of this episode is something really special that L.A. fans help create and truly love, that’s a win,” Spanos said.

Plenty of other businesses would have doubled down in the face of the criticism, stubbornly adhering to an approach that had already become a punch line by refusing to look beyond an echo chamber that regards any opinion different from theirs as wrong. The Chargers have, during a hectic and challenging week, found a way to engage in an objective assessment of a bad decision and to reverse it.

[Hacksaw]

In the infamous words of a Valley Girl, "Gag me with a spoon".

[St. Loser Fan]

https://theringer.com/san-diego-chargers-los-angeles-dean-spanos-92653a53e586?ICID=ref_fark#.b9zfyyri5

Chargers Owner Dean Spanos Screwed San Diego, and L.A. Is About to Screw Him
Take it from a San Diego transplant and lifelong Chargers fan: Los Angeles won’t give a damn about its new team

I was born and raised in San Diego. I grew up 10 minutes from the beach in a small naval community, went to San Diego State University, and wore shorts 363 days a year. The only way I could have been more San Diego is if I were a carne asada burrito made by Tony Gwynn that said only the phrase, “Get out of the water, this is a fuckin’ local break, bro.”
But in 2003, after graduating college, I decided to move to Los Angeles. I wanted to become a screenwriter, and if I was ever truly going to “make it” I had to make the move. So I packed up all my shit, got an apartment in Hollywood next to a rent-by-the-hour motel, and started waiting tables. Fast-forward three years and I was in that same apartment, still waiting tables and desperately trying to get someone, anyone, to read one of my screenplays. Only two things brought me joy: listening to a coworker of mine who used to be in porn tell me about the weirdest dicks she ever saw, and watching the San Diego Chargers play football on Sunday afternoons. For a couple of hours, watching LaDainian Tomlinson bust through sure tackles made me feel like I was back home, where my life felt like it still had promise. Los Angeles had kicked the shit out of me in a way that only Los Angeles can.

Los Angeles is built on apathy. It has perfected the art of letting you know it doesn’t give a fuck about you. Everyone comes here to “make it,” and, because it’s so hard to do that, no one has the time or the sympathy to give a shit about you. You never even get a “no” in Los Angeles, because a “no” takes almost a second, and fuck you if you think you’re worth that. In fact, Los Angeles gives a shit about you only once you’ve become successful enough that the approval is no longer something you need. Apathy always seems better than hatred until you realize that at least someone has to put in effort to hate you. So when I saw the news that the Chargers were officially moving to Los Angeles, my mind immediately went to their owner, Dean Spanos.

Dean Spanos was given charge of the San Diego Chargers by his father in 1994, and, from minute one, no one in San Diego ever took him seriously. He so perfectly looked and sounded the part of “fuckwit son of a rich guy” that he was never really going to have any other identity unless he did something truly great. Unfortunately for him, and San Diego, that was not to be his destiny. Year after year he made decisions so dumb that even the incredibly mild San Diego sports media took notice. When he fired Marty Schottenheimer after a 14–2 season, he hired Norv Turner, a man who had finished 9–23 with the Oakland Raiders in his last head-coaching stint, to handle the primes of Philip Rivers and LT. And Dean did this not because he had any real faith in Norv as a head coach (no one did, not even Norv), but because Norv was the kind of coach who would pretend that Dean was somebody. Marty Schottenheimer made it very clear he did not give two shits about what Dean Spanos thought. Norv treated Deano like a smart football mind who had earned the job of president instead of like the son of the guy who owned the team. Every year, the Chargers found new and embarrassing ways to lose, and the once-pliable identity of Dean Spanos as “fuck-up rich kid” began to harden. Barring a Super Bowl win, Dean was running out of ways to become the respected big shot he so desperately wanted to be. There was one more way to create his own legacy: build a brand-new stadium.

If you’re not rich enough to build a football stadium, then you’re not rich enough to own a football team. It’s like owning a Ferrari; you can’t just be a guy who has the money for a Ferrari. You gotta be someone that can afford all the bullshit that comes with owning a Ferrari. Dean Spanos is like a dipshit who saved all his money for a Ferrari and now lives in a one-bedroom apartment and has to park that thing on the street, where it gets fucked with daily. In the mid-aughts, he started asking the city of San Diego to build him a stadium so he could feel like a big shot. We told him to fuck off and pay for it himself. We did it several times, in several different ways. At some point he realized he was never going to get his stadium. He would always be a loser in SD, and the only way he was going to be able to feel like a big shot was if he took the Chargers and left the city. He was like a high school nobody named Josh who dreamed of going to college in another place and rebranding himself as J-Money. So every year Dean would put forth some kind of bullshit proposal that he knew was bullshit to try to get us to help him build this stadium, just so he could someday say, “Hey NFL, I did my best, see? Can I be allowed to move to L.A. now?”

I still live in Los Angeles. I was driving down the 110 Freeway on Wednesday, the night the news of the Chargers move broke. It’s strange to think about my favorite team moving closer to me and being upset about it. But thinking about the Chargers moving to Los Angeles brought me back to all those Sundays when I’d first moved here, when I was struggling to be somebody who mattered enough to even get a “no.” I remembered how much the San Diego Chargers meant to me during those times. I thought about how Dean Spanos was moving here for the same reasons so many people move here. And then I thought, the Chargers are about to experience what it’s like to move to Los Angeles and have no one give a fuck about you.

[Zen_Ronin]

Off to a great start....

[BuiltRamTough]

[moklerman]

https://theringer.com/san-diego-chargers-los-angeles-dean-spanos-92653a53e586?ICID=ref_fark#.b9zfyyri5

Chargers Owner Dean Spanos Screwed San Diego, and L.A. Is About to Screw Him
Take it from a San Diego transplant and lifelong Chargers fan: Los Angeles won’t give a damn about its new team

Man, I wish I could write that well.

[Ramsnation_SD]

Man, I wish I could write that well.

I laughed out loud through the majority of the article. It's all true.

[RedAlice]

I don't watch news much. I have it on now, and it's all about this Charger thing.

I'm kinda sad for San Diego. Both the sadness, the hatred to Spanos, and the love our beautiful city is strong.

I love San Diego though. Their pole says 81% of San Diego fans will not go to a game in LA.

They say Spanos is a trust fund baby who fucked over his fans. I AGREE.

[RedAlice]

Not related, but - how lucky are all of you in LA?

I wish I could turn on news and hear about anything about the Rams.