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i say we go after Stafford, that's cool. And if we can't get him, then maybe Wentz. If he's unavailable maybe Fitzpatrick. Anybody but Goff. Because anybody but Goff can run McVay]s offense. And if whomever we get, screws up and can't run McVay's offense, then next year there will be more available QBs to choose from. It's a no brainer.

I got a better idea, let’s get lafleur back and give McVay to GB. Then Goff will run lafleurs offense and will throw 48 TDs, and Rodgers will suck.

Cause, ya know, it’s all about McVay screwing it up.

[mike schad 1st rd]

i say we go after Stafford, that's cool. And if we can't get him, then maybe Wentz. If he's unavailable maybe Fitzpatrick. Anybody but Goff. Because anybody but Goff can run McVay]s offense. And if whomever we get, screws up and can't run McVay's offense, then next year there will be more available QBs to choose from. It's a no brainer.

Main Goal- Drafting our next, more mobile, Franchise Quarterback

Priority 1- Getting OUT from Horrendous Goff Contract.

Stafford has 2 years left on his Contract, Goff has 4. Therefore Stafford >>> Goff.

Besides that,,Stafford is better than Goff.

And yes I WOULD trade Goff for Fitzpatrick because I would trade Goff to ANYONE that would assume his Contract.

[mike schad 1st rd]

Edit: Detroit is not trading for Goff. They pick 7th in the Draft and are taking one of: Wilson, Fields or Lance.

[Elvis]

All right, who you want?

[PARAM]

Main Goal- Drafting our next, more mobile, Franchise Quarterback

Priority 1- Getting OUT from Horrendous Goff Contract.

Stafford has 2 years left on his Contract, Goff has 4. Therefore Stafford >>> Goff.

Besides that,,Stafford is better than Goff.

And yes I WOULD trade Goff for Fitzpatrick because I would trade Goff to ANYONE that would assume his Contract.

Sure, everybody is better than Goff, so it shouldn't be a problem. Let's see, there are 31 other NFL QB's. Brees and Rivers are gone, so that leaves 29. We're not gonna get Rodgers. Brady, Mahomes, Allen, Wilson or Big Ben, so that leaves 23. We can also rule out Baker, Murray, Lamar, Tua , Jones, Dak, Tannehill, Burrow or the youngster from the Chargers, so that leaves 14. Surely there's somebody available right Schad?

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Rewatching the Packers game. About 11:20 left in the 4th, down 7. Goff hits Van Jeff on a shallow crosser (on 2nd or 3rd down) for a first down. Out of empty set with Akers wide right to the boundary side. Akers is WIDE open in the 9-route for a long TD. Goff had the time to make the throw. Just sad the dink and dunk mentality. And I mean he was wide open. The corner let him run right by and the safety was too flat underneath. All JG had to do was keep looking at VJ for a split second longer, then launch the fade to Akers. Tie game right there. Ugh

Yeah cause Goff was probably thinking, I have a solid OL especially in the middle that never has problems with tough physical DLs like Green Bay's, and my OL is handling this defense just fine and has been all game, which means I always have an extra second to wait on something that hasn't happened yet but could happen, and I've only been sacked 3 or 4 times.



That throw to Jefferson was a good one btw.

Not giving you too hard a time. We agreed in a different thread.

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[ramsman34]

Oh I have zero problems with the throw. The decision? Ya, you are down 7 in the 4th on the road, divisional round. We are talking less than a second more like half a second max to let that throw fly. He is going to put it up and out I. Front for Akers to run under. Hard throw? Sure. But you don’t have coverage to deal with. Just the throw and arc and trusting Akers. The lack of aggression attacking an explosive play in that situation is just not what I would want to see.

Would need to see the all 22 to confirm all this of course.

[ramsman34]

Rogers makes that throw IMO. Also, there is still time to come back to VJ - granted not much time - with a dart throw if the safety doesn’t flatten out reading that underneath throw.

[ramsman34]

Lastly, Goff shouldn’t be “thinking” at all. He should read deep to shallow as opposed to locking on to that shallow crosser. He had the time to do so, IMO. Before he planted to throw to VJ, Akers had cleared the under defender and the safety started to flatten/cheat toward the LOS. All about the timing and trusting what you see. He just didn’t see it or look for it.

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Rogers makes that throw IMO. .

Rodgers has one of the 2-3 top OLs in the game. He can trust his OL. Rodgers besides being Rodgers is in a position where he can trust the process on any given play. Goff's OL isn't a mess the way it was in 2019, but he knows it doesn't always hold up. He's often in a position where he has to assume he's compensating for that. Against Green Bay that sometimes didn't even matter--the pass rush would get there anyway.

Using PFR stats, and looking only at the regular season, Rodgers was pressured 7 or more times in 4 games. The most was 12 against TB and they lost. Rodgers's average pressures per game was appx. 5.4.

Goff was pressured 7 or more times in 10 games. That's WITH throwing short, which obviously they tended to do. The most was 17 against Seattle in their 2nd game; the 2nd most was 16 in Arizona game one. In the 10 games where Goff was pressured 7 or more times, the Rams went 5-5. Goff's average pressures per game was just under 8.

IMO Goff was programmed by the situation to look for completions. Too often the situation he was in did not allow him to wait a sec or to trust the play. He certainly wouldn't be wise to count on that, in fact he was probably smart not to. Rodgers besides being Rodgers was just not in that position.

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