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 by aeneas1
6 years 5 months ago
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United States of America   Norcal
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Flash wrote:Did I miss something?

a quote was accidentally attributed to you (a quote which you probably wouldn't want attributed to you), corrected the username so it now displays correctly.

 by moklerman
6 years 5 months ago
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United States of America   Bakersfield, CA
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St. Loser Fan wrote:I agree with you completely. I don't understand the people who are acting like it was some vicious, neck snapping facemask worthy of 15 yards and expulsion from the game.

As I stated elsewhere that "incidental and open hand" face mask was still a 5 yard penalty up until 3 years ago when the rule was changed. Maybe that's where the anger is coming from?
I think most of the anger is coming from the fact that our win was controversial and a lot of energy is going into trying to discredit the controversy. But when Stephen Colbert leads his show off with the no-call as a topic I think it's just obvious that the Saints got screwed or the Rams got help or however one wants to phrase it.

There have been many screw jobs in the past and ultimately, it doesn't really affect a SB win if a team gets a little extra help along the way, I just feel that it's better to acknowledge that the Rams got the help...for whatever reason, mistake, coincidence, luck, whatever and hope they take that good fortune and win it all.

We're alive because of a non call. But we're still alive.

 by aeneas1
6 years 5 months ago
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United States of America   Norcal
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St. Loser Fan wrote:As I stated elsewhere that "incidental and open hand" face mask was still a 5 yard penalty up until 3 years ago when the rule was changed. Maybe that's where the anger is coming from?

and you were wrong elsewhere too - there was nothing "open handed"about it, it was a missed facemask call, half the distance, rams 1st & 10 on the saints 1. re where the anger comes from, probably from mooks not watching the play, not seeing the evidence, like the guy who claimed brandin cooks didn't come down in the endzone in the dallas game.

 by moklerman
6 years 5 months ago
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United States of America   Bakersfield, CA
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aeneas1 wrote:and you were wrong elsewhere too - there was nothing "open handed"about it, it was a missed facemask call, half the distance, rams 1st & 10 on the saints 1. re where the anger comes from, probably from mooks not watching the play, not seeing the evidence, like the guy who claimed brandin cooks didn't come down in the endzone in the dallas game.
You mean that guy that took another look and admitted that he was wrong? The one who explained why he thought what he thought and then realized he missed something? Yeah, what a mook. How dare someone admit they made a mistake.

 by aeneas1
6 years 5 months ago
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United States of America   Norcal
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moklerman wrote:You mean that guy that took another look and admitted that he was wrong? The one who explained why he thought what he thought and then realized he missed something? Yeah, what a mook. How dare someone admit they made a mistake.

on topic please.

 by St. Loser Fan
6 years 5 months ago
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United States of America   Saint Louis MO
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aeneas1 wrote:and you were wrong elsewhere too - there was nothing "open handed"about it, it was a missed facemask call, half the distance, rams 1st & 10 on the saints 1. re where the anger comes from, probably from mooks not watching the play, not seeing the evidence, like the guy who claimed brandin cooks didn't come down in the endzone in the dallas game.


You and others see grasping: myself and others don't.

https://operations.nfl.com/media/2224/2 ... lebook.pdf
Page 54

ARTICLE 14. TWISTING, PULLING, OR TURNING THE FACEMASK. No player shall grasp and control, twist, turn, push, or pull the facemask of an opponent in any direction.
Note: If a player grasps an opponent’s facemask, he must immediately release it. If he does not immediately release it and controls his opponent, it is a foul.
Penalty: For twisting, turning, pushing, pulling, or controlling the mask: Loss of 15 yards. The player may be disqualified if the action is flagrant. If the foul is by the defense, it is also an automatic first down.


The NFL no longer has a 5 yard facemask penalty.

 by Hacksaw
6 years 5 months ago
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 Joined:  Apr 15 2015
United States of America   AT THE BEACH
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Flash wrote:Did I miss something?


You had left the first quote box out of your post. Another poster thought you wrote the quoted take and called you on it. Yet another poster saw what happened and defended you.
I went in and added a generic quote box to end the confusion & A1 went back and personalized it.

Other than that, not much. lol

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