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 by Haden
7 years 10 months ago
 Total posts:   2195  
 Joined:  Sep 06 2016
United States of America   Spokane, WA
Pro Bowl

Get him out. Let some other fool ruin their team by grossly overpaying for one position.

 by snackdaddy
7 years 10 months ago
 Total posts:   10048  
 Joined:  May 30 2015
United States of America   Merced California
Hall of Fame

I had another thought. What if they finally pay him a record amount and he's not as effective in this defense? Then that contract puts us so close to the cap we can't afford to keep both Ogletree and Watkins? Now wouldn't that just be our luck. :o

 by dieterbrock
7 years 10 months ago
 Total posts:   11512  
 Joined:  Mar 31 2015
United States of America   New Jersey
Hall of Fame

BuiltRamTough wrote:Doubt he'd get traded but I would go for two 1's and two 2's.

The Brownies have the chips and Greg Williams is the DC..

Nobody will trade for him unless they can agree to a contract extension. And if it's that easy for a team to offer him a contract he's happy with, then the Rams look bad

 by norcalramfan
7 years 10 months ago
 Total posts:   328  
 Joined:  Oct 23 2016
United States of America   LA Coliseum
Starter

Screw him. We not Me is the team mantra and I'm good with the Rams not caving to his demands. The Rams have said all the right things like "he deserves a great contract, he's a great player," but other teams are watching this saga play out and hoping the Rams don't set a bad precedent by giving him an opt out and adversely changing the landscape of rookie contracts and veteran holdouts.

It's time for the Rams to set a hard deadline and either he needs to get in and help out or sit it out and the teams moves on without him. The Rams have tried to not make this a distraction, but it will become one and will dominate every post game and Monday afternoon press briefing. Imagine the Rams not getting any sacks and give up 100 yards to the Colts RB what the media circus would be. Only if the Rams had AD etc. will become the story.

AD will get a new contract, but if wants to be the NFL equivalent of Curt Flood or Andy Messersmith by holding out and changing the rules by how player contracts are negotiated, he's making a big mistake. The rules are instituted by a Collective Bargaining Agreement where the NFLPA and the NFL agree to parameters and no individual holdout is going to alter those rules mid CBA. Those rules need to be negotiated at the time a new CBA is negotiated between the players and owners.

Get in and help the team or he can try to get his new contract wearing a different uniform. If he won't sign what's been offered, trade him for a "kings ransom." We not Me!!

 by BobCarl
7 years 10 months ago
 Total posts:   4651  
 Joined:  Mar 08 2017
United States of America   LA Coliseum
Superstar

norcalramfan wrote: The rules are instituted by a Collective Bargaining Agreement where the NFLPA and the NFL agree to parameters


Most teams play by the ethical rules of : "When a player outperforms his rookie contract, we give him a new one.".. and Donald is NOW playing by the same set of ethics that the Rams are. I can't blame him for that.

At this point Donald hasn't breached the CBA rules any more than the Rams have.

Donald isn't rewriting the future CBA, but he is proving that the current one is trashed.

 by ocbasko
7 years 10 months ago
 Total posts:   19  
 Joined:  Dec 17 2016
United States of America   LA Coliseum
Undrafted Free Agent

norcalramfan wrote:Screw him. We not Me is the team mantra and I'm good with the Rams not caving to his demands. The Rams have said all the right things like "he deserves a great contract, he's a great player," but other teams are watching this saga play out and hoping the Rams don't set a bad precedent by giving him an opt out and adversely changing the landscape of rookie contracts and veteran holdouts.

It's time for the Rams to set a hard deadline and either he needs to get in and help out or sit it out and the teams moves on without him. The Rams have tried to not make this a distraction, but it will become one and will dominate every post game and Monday afternoon press briefing. Imagine the Rams not getting any sacks and give up 100 yards to the Colts RB what the media circus would be. Only if the Rams had AD etc. will become the story.

AD will get a new contract, but if wants to be the NFL equivalent of Curt Flood or Andy Messersmith by holding out and changing the rules by how player contracts are negotiated, he's making a big mistake. The rules are instituted by a Collective Bargaining Agreement where the NFLPA and the NFL agree to parameters and no individual holdout is going to alter those rules mid CBA. Those rules need to be negotiated at the time a new CBA is negotiated between the players and owners.

Get in and help the team or he can try to get his new contract wearing a different uniform. If he won't sign what's been offered, trade him for a "kings ransom." We not Me!!


100% agree with you!

My understanding is Donald has to play 8 games to have this year count for him. Does this mean he can chose to come in on game 9 so he meets this criteria and the Rams have to accept it? Is this a correct statement? Thanks

 by Hacksaw
7 years 10 months ago
 Total posts:   24523  
 Joined:  Apr 15 2015
United States of America   AT THE BEACH
Moderator

Let the big boy sit on the couch at home and stew. We need to fix the interior of our D line and fast. Such a drag but I'm all in with the "We Not Me" slogan and he isn't fitting that vision.
Let him sit and eat 2 years pay. :twisted:

Sure he deserves more jack but now he's hurting the team that is making him a very wealthy man for playing a kids game at a high level.
And as @snackdaddy and others have opined, he might not even do as well in a 3-4 alignment.

If he is even hinting at holding out for up to the 8 games, I hope Snead has the Browns GM on speed dial... Send him to Orange purgatory.

 by majik
7 years 10 months ago
 Total posts:   1269  
 Joined:  Aug 31 2015
United States of America   New Jersey
Pro Bowl

Do the Rams have to let him play the 8 games? Can the Rams go nuclear and tell Donald if you don't report by X date, you will not accrue a year of service? With the way the NFL has the deck stacked in their favor, I can't imagine them not having this in place.

At what point do the Rams say do we really want to commit a $20M cap charge for a DT and explore a trade?

 by BobCarl
7 years 10 months ago
 Total posts:   4651  
 Joined:  Mar 08 2017
United States of America   LA Coliseum
Superstar

majik wrote:Do the Rams have to let him play the 8 games?
No, they don't have to let him play. There are lots of things the Rams can do


Can the Rams go nuclear and tell Donald if you don't report by X date, you will not accrue a year of service?
I think that Donald has already forfeited an "accrued" year for 2017 ... which he can make up in 2018 ... but this is virtually meaningless to a person who's next contract will be 9-figures


At what point do the Rams say do we really want to commit a $20M cap charge for a DT and explore a trade?
This team committed a $17M cap charge for a mid tier CB ... why wouldn't they want to offer up just a few mill more for the best defensive player in the NFL?

 by Kid Charlamagne
7 years 10 months ago
 Total posts:   533  
 Joined:  Aug 25 2016
United States of America   LA Coliseum
Veteran

He might as well stay out, he's not going to be ready game 1 at the very least, and guys who hold out seem more likely to get hurt when they return. I'm curious as to what the offer is but to their credit the Rams haven't leaked that info out.

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