by Haden 7 years 10 months ago Total posts: 2195 Joined: Sep 06 2016 Spokane, WA Pro Bowl Re: Donald Holdout Could Enter Regular Season POST #111 Get him out. Let some other fool ruin their team by grossly overpaying for one position. by snackdaddy 7 years 10 months ago Total posts: 10048 Joined: May 30 2015 Merced California Hall of Fame Donald Holdout Could Enter Regular Season POST #112 I had another thought. What if they finally pay him a record amount and he's not as effective in this defense? Then that contract puts us so close to the cap we can't afford to keep both Ogletree and Watkins? Now wouldn't that just be our luck. by dieterbrock 7 years 10 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Donald Holdout Could Enter Regular Season POST #113 BuiltRamTough wrote:Doubt he'd get traded but I would go for two 1's and two 2's.The Brownies have the chips and Greg Williams is the DC..Nobody will trade for him unless they can agree to a contract extension. And if it's that easy for a team to offer him a contract he's happy with, then the Rams look bad by norcalramfan 7 years 10 months ago Total posts: 328 Joined: Oct 23 2016 LA Coliseum Starter Donald Holdout Could Enter Regular Season POST #114 Screw him. We not Me is the team mantra and I'm good with the Rams not caving to his demands. The Rams have said all the right things like "he deserves a great contract, he's a great player," but other teams are watching this saga play out and hoping the Rams don't set a bad precedent by giving him an opt out and adversely changing the landscape of rookie contracts and veteran holdouts.It's time for the Rams to set a hard deadline and either he needs to get in and help out or sit it out and the teams moves on without him. The Rams have tried to not make this a distraction, but it will become one and will dominate every post game and Monday afternoon press briefing. Imagine the Rams not getting any sacks and give up 100 yards to the Colts RB what the media circus would be. Only if the Rams had AD etc. will become the story.AD will get a new contract, but if wants to be the NFL equivalent of Curt Flood or Andy Messersmith by holding out and changing the rules by how player contracts are negotiated, he's making a big mistake. The rules are instituted by a Collective Bargaining Agreement where the NFLPA and the NFL agree to parameters and no individual holdout is going to alter those rules mid CBA. Those rules need to be negotiated at the time a new CBA is negotiated between the players and owners.Get in and help the team or he can try to get his new contract wearing a different uniform. If he won't sign what's been offered, trade him for a "kings ransom." We not Me!! by BobCarl 7 years 10 months ago Total posts: 4651 Joined: Mar 08 2017 LA Coliseum Superstar Donald Holdout Could Enter Regular Season POST #115 norcalramfan wrote: The rules are instituted by a Collective Bargaining Agreement where the NFLPA and the NFL agree to parameters Most teams play by the ethical rules of : "When a player outperforms his rookie contract, we give him a new one.".. and Donald is NOW playing by the same set of ethics that the Rams are. I can't blame him for that.At this point Donald hasn't breached the CBA rules any more than the Rams have.Donald isn't rewriting the future CBA, but he is proving that the current one is trashed. ne supra crepidam sutor iudicaret by ocbasko 7 years 10 months ago Total posts: 19 Joined: Dec 17 2016 LA Coliseum Undrafted Free Agent Donald Holdout Could Enter Regular Season POST #116 norcalramfan wrote:Screw him. We not Me is the team mantra and I'm good with the Rams not caving to his demands. The Rams have said all the right things like "he deserves a great contract, he's a great player," but other teams are watching this saga play out and hoping the Rams don't set a bad precedent by giving him an opt out and adversely changing the landscape of rookie contracts and veteran holdouts.It's time for the Rams to set a hard deadline and either he needs to get in and help out or sit it out and the teams moves on without him. The Rams have tried to not make this a distraction, but it will become one and will dominate every post game and Monday afternoon press briefing. Imagine the Rams not getting any sacks and give up 100 yards to the Colts RB what the media circus would be. Only if the Rams had AD etc. will become the story.AD will get a new contract, but if wants to be the NFL equivalent of Curt Flood or Andy Messersmith by holding out and changing the rules by how player contracts are negotiated, he's making a big mistake. The rules are instituted by a Collective Bargaining Agreement where the NFLPA and the NFL agree to parameters and no individual holdout is going to alter those rules mid CBA. Those rules need to be negotiated at the time a new CBA is negotiated between the players and owners.Get in and help the team or he can try to get his new contract wearing a different uniform. If he won't sign what's been offered, trade him for a "kings ransom." We not Me!!100% agree with you!My understanding is Donald has to play 8 games to have this year count for him. Does this mean he can chose to come in on game 9 so he meets this criteria and the Rams have to accept it? Is this a correct statement? Thanks by Hacksaw 7 years 10 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Donald Holdout Could Enter Regular Season POST #117 Haden liked this post Let the big boy sit on the couch at home and stew. We need to fix the interior of our D line and fast. Such a drag but I'm all in with the "We Not Me" slogan and he isn't fitting that vision. Let him sit and eat 2 years pay. Sure he deserves more jack but now he's hurting the team that is making him a very wealthy man for playing a kids game at a high level. And as @snackdaddy and others have opined, he might not even do as well in a 3-4 alignment. If he is even hinting at holding out for up to the 8 games, I hope Snead has the Browns GM on speed dial... Send him to Orange purgatory. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS 1 by majik 7 years 10 months ago Total posts: 1269 Joined: Aug 31 2015 New Jersey Pro Bowl Donald Holdout Could Enter Regular Season POST #118 Do the Rams have to let him play the 8 games? Can the Rams go nuclear and tell Donald if you don't report by X date, you will not accrue a year of service? With the way the NFL has the deck stacked in their favor, I can't imagine them not having this in place. At what point do the Rams say do we really want to commit a $20M cap charge for a DT and explore a trade? by BobCarl 7 years 10 months ago Total posts: 4651 Joined: Mar 08 2017 LA Coliseum Superstar Donald Holdout Could Enter Regular Season POST #119 majik wrote:Do the Rams have to let him play the 8 games?No, they don't have to let him play. There are lots of things the Rams can do Can the Rams go nuclear and tell Donald if you don't report by X date, you will not accrue a year of service? I think that Donald has already forfeited an "accrued" year for 2017 ... which he can make up in 2018 ... but this is virtually meaningless to a person who's next contract will be 9-figures At what point do the Rams say do we really want to commit a $20M cap charge for a DT and explore a trade?This team committed a $17M cap charge for a mid tier CB ... why wouldn't they want to offer up just a few mill more for the best defensive player in the NFL? ne supra crepidam sutor iudicaret by Kid Charlamagne 7 years 10 months ago Total posts: 533 Joined: Aug 25 2016 LA Coliseum Veteran Donald Holdout Could Enter Regular Season POST #120 Haden, azramsfan93 liked this post He might as well stay out, he's not going to be ready game 1 at the very least, and guys who hold out seem more likely to get hurt when they return. I'm curious as to what the offer is but to their credit the Rams haven't leaked that info out. 2 Reply 12 / 34 1 12 34 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 337 posts Jul 08 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by snackdaddy 7 years 10 months ago Total posts: 10048 Joined: May 30 2015 Merced California Hall of Fame Donald Holdout Could Enter Regular Season POST #112 I had another thought. What if they finally pay him a record amount and he's not as effective in this defense? Then that contract puts us so close to the cap we can't afford to keep both Ogletree and Watkins? Now wouldn't that just be our luck. by dieterbrock 7 years 10 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Donald Holdout Could Enter Regular Season POST #113 BuiltRamTough wrote:Doubt he'd get traded but I would go for two 1's and two 2's.The Brownies have the chips and Greg Williams is the DC..Nobody will trade for him unless they can agree to a contract extension. And if it's that easy for a team to offer him a contract he's happy with, then the Rams look bad by norcalramfan 7 years 10 months ago Total posts: 328 Joined: Oct 23 2016 LA Coliseum Starter Donald Holdout Could Enter Regular Season POST #114 Screw him. We not Me is the team mantra and I'm good with the Rams not caving to his demands. The Rams have said all the right things like "he deserves a great contract, he's a great player," but other teams are watching this saga play out and hoping the Rams don't set a bad precedent by giving him an opt out and adversely changing the landscape of rookie contracts and veteran holdouts.It's time for the Rams to set a hard deadline and either he needs to get in and help out or sit it out and the teams moves on without him. The Rams have tried to not make this a distraction, but it will become one and will dominate every post game and Monday afternoon press briefing. Imagine the Rams not getting any sacks and give up 100 yards to the Colts RB what the media circus would be. Only if the Rams had AD etc. will become the story.AD will get a new contract, but if wants to be the NFL equivalent of Curt Flood or Andy Messersmith by holding out and changing the rules by how player contracts are negotiated, he's making a big mistake. The rules are instituted by a Collective Bargaining Agreement where the NFLPA and the NFL agree to parameters and no individual holdout is going to alter those rules mid CBA. Those rules need to be negotiated at the time a new CBA is negotiated between the players and owners.Get in and help the team or he can try to get his new contract wearing a different uniform. If he won't sign what's been offered, trade him for a "kings ransom." We not Me!! by BobCarl 7 years 10 months ago Total posts: 4651 Joined: Mar 08 2017 LA Coliseum Superstar Donald Holdout Could Enter Regular Season POST #115 norcalramfan wrote: The rules are instituted by a Collective Bargaining Agreement where the NFLPA and the NFL agree to parameters Most teams play by the ethical rules of : "When a player outperforms his rookie contract, we give him a new one.".. and Donald is NOW playing by the same set of ethics that the Rams are. I can't blame him for that.At this point Donald hasn't breached the CBA rules any more than the Rams have.Donald isn't rewriting the future CBA, but he is proving that the current one is trashed. ne supra crepidam sutor iudicaret by ocbasko 7 years 10 months ago Total posts: 19 Joined: Dec 17 2016 LA Coliseum Undrafted Free Agent Donald Holdout Could Enter Regular Season POST #116 norcalramfan wrote:Screw him. We not Me is the team mantra and I'm good with the Rams not caving to his demands. The Rams have said all the right things like "he deserves a great contract, he's a great player," but other teams are watching this saga play out and hoping the Rams don't set a bad precedent by giving him an opt out and adversely changing the landscape of rookie contracts and veteran holdouts.It's time for the Rams to set a hard deadline and either he needs to get in and help out or sit it out and the teams moves on without him. The Rams have tried to not make this a distraction, but it will become one and will dominate every post game and Monday afternoon press briefing. Imagine the Rams not getting any sacks and give up 100 yards to the Colts RB what the media circus would be. Only if the Rams had AD etc. will become the story.AD will get a new contract, but if wants to be the NFL equivalent of Curt Flood or Andy Messersmith by holding out and changing the rules by how player contracts are negotiated, he's making a big mistake. The rules are instituted by a Collective Bargaining Agreement where the NFLPA and the NFL agree to parameters and no individual holdout is going to alter those rules mid CBA. Those rules need to be negotiated at the time a new CBA is negotiated between the players and owners.Get in and help the team or he can try to get his new contract wearing a different uniform. If he won't sign what's been offered, trade him for a "kings ransom." We not Me!!100% agree with you!My understanding is Donald has to play 8 games to have this year count for him. Does this mean he can chose to come in on game 9 so he meets this criteria and the Rams have to accept it? Is this a correct statement? Thanks by Hacksaw 7 years 10 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Donald Holdout Could Enter Regular Season POST #117 Haden liked this post Let the big boy sit on the couch at home and stew. We need to fix the interior of our D line and fast. Such a drag but I'm all in with the "We Not Me" slogan and he isn't fitting that vision. Let him sit and eat 2 years pay. Sure he deserves more jack but now he's hurting the team that is making him a very wealthy man for playing a kids game at a high level. And as @snackdaddy and others have opined, he might not even do as well in a 3-4 alignment. If he is even hinting at holding out for up to the 8 games, I hope Snead has the Browns GM on speed dial... Send him to Orange purgatory. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS 1 by majik 7 years 10 months ago Total posts: 1269 Joined: Aug 31 2015 New Jersey Pro Bowl Donald Holdout Could Enter Regular Season POST #118 Do the Rams have to let him play the 8 games? Can the Rams go nuclear and tell Donald if you don't report by X date, you will not accrue a year of service? With the way the NFL has the deck stacked in their favor, I can't imagine them not having this in place. At what point do the Rams say do we really want to commit a $20M cap charge for a DT and explore a trade? by BobCarl 7 years 10 months ago Total posts: 4651 Joined: Mar 08 2017 LA Coliseum Superstar Donald Holdout Could Enter Regular Season POST #119 majik wrote:Do the Rams have to let him play the 8 games?No, they don't have to let him play. There are lots of things the Rams can do Can the Rams go nuclear and tell Donald if you don't report by X date, you will not accrue a year of service? I think that Donald has already forfeited an "accrued" year for 2017 ... which he can make up in 2018 ... but this is virtually meaningless to a person who's next contract will be 9-figures At what point do the Rams say do we really want to commit a $20M cap charge for a DT and explore a trade?This team committed a $17M cap charge for a mid tier CB ... why wouldn't they want to offer up just a few mill more for the best defensive player in the NFL? ne supra crepidam sutor iudicaret by Kid Charlamagne 7 years 10 months ago Total posts: 533 Joined: Aug 25 2016 LA Coliseum Veteran Donald Holdout Could Enter Regular Season POST #120 Haden, azramsfan93 liked this post He might as well stay out, he's not going to be ready game 1 at the very least, and guys who hold out seem more likely to get hurt when they return. I'm curious as to what the offer is but to their credit the Rams haven't leaked that info out. 2 Reply 12 / 34 1 12 34 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 337 posts Jul 08 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by dieterbrock 7 years 10 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Donald Holdout Could Enter Regular Season POST #113 BuiltRamTough wrote:Doubt he'd get traded but I would go for two 1's and two 2's.The Brownies have the chips and Greg Williams is the DC..Nobody will trade for him unless they can agree to a contract extension. And if it's that easy for a team to offer him a contract he's happy with, then the Rams look bad by norcalramfan 7 years 10 months ago Total posts: 328 Joined: Oct 23 2016 LA Coliseum Starter Donald Holdout Could Enter Regular Season POST #114 Screw him. We not Me is the team mantra and I'm good with the Rams not caving to his demands. The Rams have said all the right things like "he deserves a great contract, he's a great player," but other teams are watching this saga play out and hoping the Rams don't set a bad precedent by giving him an opt out and adversely changing the landscape of rookie contracts and veteran holdouts.It's time for the Rams to set a hard deadline and either he needs to get in and help out or sit it out and the teams moves on without him. The Rams have tried to not make this a distraction, but it will become one and will dominate every post game and Monday afternoon press briefing. Imagine the Rams not getting any sacks and give up 100 yards to the Colts RB what the media circus would be. Only if the Rams had AD etc. will become the story.AD will get a new contract, but if wants to be the NFL equivalent of Curt Flood or Andy Messersmith by holding out and changing the rules by how player contracts are negotiated, he's making a big mistake. The rules are instituted by a Collective Bargaining Agreement where the NFLPA and the NFL agree to parameters and no individual holdout is going to alter those rules mid CBA. Those rules need to be negotiated at the time a new CBA is negotiated between the players and owners.Get in and help the team or he can try to get his new contract wearing a different uniform. If he won't sign what's been offered, trade him for a "kings ransom." We not Me!! by BobCarl 7 years 10 months ago Total posts: 4651 Joined: Mar 08 2017 LA Coliseum Superstar Donald Holdout Could Enter Regular Season POST #115 norcalramfan wrote: The rules are instituted by a Collective Bargaining Agreement where the NFLPA and the NFL agree to parameters Most teams play by the ethical rules of : "When a player outperforms his rookie contract, we give him a new one.".. and Donald is NOW playing by the same set of ethics that the Rams are. I can't blame him for that.At this point Donald hasn't breached the CBA rules any more than the Rams have.Donald isn't rewriting the future CBA, but he is proving that the current one is trashed. ne supra crepidam sutor iudicaret by ocbasko 7 years 10 months ago Total posts: 19 Joined: Dec 17 2016 LA Coliseum Undrafted Free Agent Donald Holdout Could Enter Regular Season POST #116 norcalramfan wrote:Screw him. We not Me is the team mantra and I'm good with the Rams not caving to his demands. The Rams have said all the right things like "he deserves a great contract, he's a great player," but other teams are watching this saga play out and hoping the Rams don't set a bad precedent by giving him an opt out and adversely changing the landscape of rookie contracts and veteran holdouts.It's time for the Rams to set a hard deadline and either he needs to get in and help out or sit it out and the teams moves on without him. The Rams have tried to not make this a distraction, but it will become one and will dominate every post game and Monday afternoon press briefing. Imagine the Rams not getting any sacks and give up 100 yards to the Colts RB what the media circus would be. Only if the Rams had AD etc. will become the story.AD will get a new contract, but if wants to be the NFL equivalent of Curt Flood or Andy Messersmith by holding out and changing the rules by how player contracts are negotiated, he's making a big mistake. The rules are instituted by a Collective Bargaining Agreement where the NFLPA and the NFL agree to parameters and no individual holdout is going to alter those rules mid CBA. Those rules need to be negotiated at the time a new CBA is negotiated between the players and owners.Get in and help the team or he can try to get his new contract wearing a different uniform. If he won't sign what's been offered, trade him for a "kings ransom." We not Me!!100% agree with you!My understanding is Donald has to play 8 games to have this year count for him. Does this mean he can chose to come in on game 9 so he meets this criteria and the Rams have to accept it? Is this a correct statement? Thanks by Hacksaw 7 years 10 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Donald Holdout Could Enter Regular Season POST #117 Haden liked this post Let the big boy sit on the couch at home and stew. We need to fix the interior of our D line and fast. Such a drag but I'm all in with the "We Not Me" slogan and he isn't fitting that vision. Let him sit and eat 2 years pay. Sure he deserves more jack but now he's hurting the team that is making him a very wealthy man for playing a kids game at a high level. And as @snackdaddy and others have opined, he might not even do as well in a 3-4 alignment. If he is even hinting at holding out for up to the 8 games, I hope Snead has the Browns GM on speed dial... Send him to Orange purgatory. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS 1 by majik 7 years 10 months ago Total posts: 1269 Joined: Aug 31 2015 New Jersey Pro Bowl Donald Holdout Could Enter Regular Season POST #118 Do the Rams have to let him play the 8 games? Can the Rams go nuclear and tell Donald if you don't report by X date, you will not accrue a year of service? With the way the NFL has the deck stacked in their favor, I can't imagine them not having this in place. At what point do the Rams say do we really want to commit a $20M cap charge for a DT and explore a trade? by BobCarl 7 years 10 months ago Total posts: 4651 Joined: Mar 08 2017 LA Coliseum Superstar Donald Holdout Could Enter Regular Season POST #119 majik wrote:Do the Rams have to let him play the 8 games?No, they don't have to let him play. There are lots of things the Rams can do Can the Rams go nuclear and tell Donald if you don't report by X date, you will not accrue a year of service? I think that Donald has already forfeited an "accrued" year for 2017 ... which he can make up in 2018 ... but this is virtually meaningless to a person who's next contract will be 9-figures At what point do the Rams say do we really want to commit a $20M cap charge for a DT and explore a trade?This team committed a $17M cap charge for a mid tier CB ... why wouldn't they want to offer up just a few mill more for the best defensive player in the NFL? ne supra crepidam sutor iudicaret by Kid Charlamagne 7 years 10 months ago Total posts: 533 Joined: Aug 25 2016 LA Coliseum Veteran Donald Holdout Could Enter Regular Season POST #120 Haden, azramsfan93 liked this post He might as well stay out, he's not going to be ready game 1 at the very least, and guys who hold out seem more likely to get hurt when they return. I'm curious as to what the offer is but to their credit the Rams haven't leaked that info out. 2 Reply 12 / 34 1 12 34 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 337 posts Jul 08 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by norcalramfan 7 years 10 months ago Total posts: 328 Joined: Oct 23 2016 LA Coliseum Starter Donald Holdout Could Enter Regular Season POST #114 Screw him. We not Me is the team mantra and I'm good with the Rams not caving to his demands. The Rams have said all the right things like "he deserves a great contract, he's a great player," but other teams are watching this saga play out and hoping the Rams don't set a bad precedent by giving him an opt out and adversely changing the landscape of rookie contracts and veteran holdouts.It's time for the Rams to set a hard deadline and either he needs to get in and help out or sit it out and the teams moves on without him. The Rams have tried to not make this a distraction, but it will become one and will dominate every post game and Monday afternoon press briefing. Imagine the Rams not getting any sacks and give up 100 yards to the Colts RB what the media circus would be. Only if the Rams had AD etc. will become the story.AD will get a new contract, but if wants to be the NFL equivalent of Curt Flood or Andy Messersmith by holding out and changing the rules by how player contracts are negotiated, he's making a big mistake. The rules are instituted by a Collective Bargaining Agreement where the NFLPA and the NFL agree to parameters and no individual holdout is going to alter those rules mid CBA. Those rules need to be negotiated at the time a new CBA is negotiated between the players and owners.Get in and help the team or he can try to get his new contract wearing a different uniform. If he won't sign what's been offered, trade him for a "kings ransom." We not Me!! by BobCarl 7 years 10 months ago Total posts: 4651 Joined: Mar 08 2017 LA Coliseum Superstar Donald Holdout Could Enter Regular Season POST #115 norcalramfan wrote: The rules are instituted by a Collective Bargaining Agreement where the NFLPA and the NFL agree to parameters Most teams play by the ethical rules of : "When a player outperforms his rookie contract, we give him a new one.".. and Donald is NOW playing by the same set of ethics that the Rams are. I can't blame him for that.At this point Donald hasn't breached the CBA rules any more than the Rams have.Donald isn't rewriting the future CBA, but he is proving that the current one is trashed. ne supra crepidam sutor iudicaret by ocbasko 7 years 10 months ago Total posts: 19 Joined: Dec 17 2016 LA Coliseum Undrafted Free Agent Donald Holdout Could Enter Regular Season POST #116 norcalramfan wrote:Screw him. We not Me is the team mantra and I'm good with the Rams not caving to his demands. The Rams have said all the right things like "he deserves a great contract, he's a great player," but other teams are watching this saga play out and hoping the Rams don't set a bad precedent by giving him an opt out and adversely changing the landscape of rookie contracts and veteran holdouts.It's time for the Rams to set a hard deadline and either he needs to get in and help out or sit it out and the teams moves on without him. The Rams have tried to not make this a distraction, but it will become one and will dominate every post game and Monday afternoon press briefing. Imagine the Rams not getting any sacks and give up 100 yards to the Colts RB what the media circus would be. Only if the Rams had AD etc. will become the story.AD will get a new contract, but if wants to be the NFL equivalent of Curt Flood or Andy Messersmith by holding out and changing the rules by how player contracts are negotiated, he's making a big mistake. The rules are instituted by a Collective Bargaining Agreement where the NFLPA and the NFL agree to parameters and no individual holdout is going to alter those rules mid CBA. Those rules need to be negotiated at the time a new CBA is negotiated between the players and owners.Get in and help the team or he can try to get his new contract wearing a different uniform. If he won't sign what's been offered, trade him for a "kings ransom." We not Me!!100% agree with you!My understanding is Donald has to play 8 games to have this year count for him. Does this mean he can chose to come in on game 9 so he meets this criteria and the Rams have to accept it? Is this a correct statement? Thanks by Hacksaw 7 years 10 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Donald Holdout Could Enter Regular Season POST #117 Haden liked this post Let the big boy sit on the couch at home and stew. We need to fix the interior of our D line and fast. Such a drag but I'm all in with the "We Not Me" slogan and he isn't fitting that vision. Let him sit and eat 2 years pay. Sure he deserves more jack but now he's hurting the team that is making him a very wealthy man for playing a kids game at a high level. And as @snackdaddy and others have opined, he might not even do as well in a 3-4 alignment. If he is even hinting at holding out for up to the 8 games, I hope Snead has the Browns GM on speed dial... Send him to Orange purgatory. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS 1 by majik 7 years 10 months ago Total posts: 1269 Joined: Aug 31 2015 New Jersey Pro Bowl Donald Holdout Could Enter Regular Season POST #118 Do the Rams have to let him play the 8 games? Can the Rams go nuclear and tell Donald if you don't report by X date, you will not accrue a year of service? With the way the NFL has the deck stacked in their favor, I can't imagine them not having this in place. At what point do the Rams say do we really want to commit a $20M cap charge for a DT and explore a trade? by BobCarl 7 years 10 months ago Total posts: 4651 Joined: Mar 08 2017 LA Coliseum Superstar Donald Holdout Could Enter Regular Season POST #119 majik wrote:Do the Rams have to let him play the 8 games?No, they don't have to let him play. There are lots of things the Rams can do Can the Rams go nuclear and tell Donald if you don't report by X date, you will not accrue a year of service? I think that Donald has already forfeited an "accrued" year for 2017 ... which he can make up in 2018 ... but this is virtually meaningless to a person who's next contract will be 9-figures At what point do the Rams say do we really want to commit a $20M cap charge for a DT and explore a trade?This team committed a $17M cap charge for a mid tier CB ... why wouldn't they want to offer up just a few mill more for the best defensive player in the NFL? ne supra crepidam sutor iudicaret by Kid Charlamagne 7 years 10 months ago Total posts: 533 Joined: Aug 25 2016 LA Coliseum Veteran Donald Holdout Could Enter Regular Season POST #120 Haden, azramsfan93 liked this post He might as well stay out, he's not going to be ready game 1 at the very least, and guys who hold out seem more likely to get hurt when they return. I'm curious as to what the offer is but to their credit the Rams haven't leaked that info out. 2 Reply 12 / 34 1 12 34 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 337 posts Jul 08 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by BobCarl 7 years 10 months ago Total posts: 4651 Joined: Mar 08 2017 LA Coliseum Superstar Donald Holdout Could Enter Regular Season POST #115 norcalramfan wrote: The rules are instituted by a Collective Bargaining Agreement where the NFLPA and the NFL agree to parameters Most teams play by the ethical rules of : "When a player outperforms his rookie contract, we give him a new one.".. and Donald is NOW playing by the same set of ethics that the Rams are. I can't blame him for that.At this point Donald hasn't breached the CBA rules any more than the Rams have.Donald isn't rewriting the future CBA, but he is proving that the current one is trashed. ne supra crepidam sutor iudicaret by ocbasko 7 years 10 months ago Total posts: 19 Joined: Dec 17 2016 LA Coliseum Undrafted Free Agent Donald Holdout Could Enter Regular Season POST #116 norcalramfan wrote:Screw him. We not Me is the team mantra and I'm good with the Rams not caving to his demands. The Rams have said all the right things like "he deserves a great contract, he's a great player," but other teams are watching this saga play out and hoping the Rams don't set a bad precedent by giving him an opt out and adversely changing the landscape of rookie contracts and veteran holdouts.It's time for the Rams to set a hard deadline and either he needs to get in and help out or sit it out and the teams moves on without him. The Rams have tried to not make this a distraction, but it will become one and will dominate every post game and Monday afternoon press briefing. Imagine the Rams not getting any sacks and give up 100 yards to the Colts RB what the media circus would be. Only if the Rams had AD etc. will become the story.AD will get a new contract, but if wants to be the NFL equivalent of Curt Flood or Andy Messersmith by holding out and changing the rules by how player contracts are negotiated, he's making a big mistake. The rules are instituted by a Collective Bargaining Agreement where the NFLPA and the NFL agree to parameters and no individual holdout is going to alter those rules mid CBA. Those rules need to be negotiated at the time a new CBA is negotiated between the players and owners.Get in and help the team or he can try to get his new contract wearing a different uniform. If he won't sign what's been offered, trade him for a "kings ransom." We not Me!!100% agree with you!My understanding is Donald has to play 8 games to have this year count for him. Does this mean he can chose to come in on game 9 so he meets this criteria and the Rams have to accept it? Is this a correct statement? Thanks by Hacksaw 7 years 10 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Donald Holdout Could Enter Regular Season POST #117 Haden liked this post Let the big boy sit on the couch at home and stew. We need to fix the interior of our D line and fast. Such a drag but I'm all in with the "We Not Me" slogan and he isn't fitting that vision. Let him sit and eat 2 years pay. Sure he deserves more jack but now he's hurting the team that is making him a very wealthy man for playing a kids game at a high level. And as @snackdaddy and others have opined, he might not even do as well in a 3-4 alignment. If he is even hinting at holding out for up to the 8 games, I hope Snead has the Browns GM on speed dial... Send him to Orange purgatory. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS 1 by majik 7 years 10 months ago Total posts: 1269 Joined: Aug 31 2015 New Jersey Pro Bowl Donald Holdout Could Enter Regular Season POST #118 Do the Rams have to let him play the 8 games? Can the Rams go nuclear and tell Donald if you don't report by X date, you will not accrue a year of service? With the way the NFL has the deck stacked in their favor, I can't imagine them not having this in place. At what point do the Rams say do we really want to commit a $20M cap charge for a DT and explore a trade? by BobCarl 7 years 10 months ago Total posts: 4651 Joined: Mar 08 2017 LA Coliseum Superstar Donald Holdout Could Enter Regular Season POST #119 majik wrote:Do the Rams have to let him play the 8 games?No, they don't have to let him play. There are lots of things the Rams can do Can the Rams go nuclear and tell Donald if you don't report by X date, you will not accrue a year of service? I think that Donald has already forfeited an "accrued" year for 2017 ... which he can make up in 2018 ... but this is virtually meaningless to a person who's next contract will be 9-figures At what point do the Rams say do we really want to commit a $20M cap charge for a DT and explore a trade?This team committed a $17M cap charge for a mid tier CB ... why wouldn't they want to offer up just a few mill more for the best defensive player in the NFL? ne supra crepidam sutor iudicaret by Kid Charlamagne 7 years 10 months ago Total posts: 533 Joined: Aug 25 2016 LA Coliseum Veteran Donald Holdout Could Enter Regular Season POST #120 Haden, azramsfan93 liked this post He might as well stay out, he's not going to be ready game 1 at the very least, and guys who hold out seem more likely to get hurt when they return. I'm curious as to what the offer is but to their credit the Rams haven't leaked that info out. 2 Reply 12 / 34 1 12 34 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 337 posts Jul 08 2025
by ocbasko 7 years 10 months ago Total posts: 19 Joined: Dec 17 2016 LA Coliseum Undrafted Free Agent Donald Holdout Could Enter Regular Season POST #116 norcalramfan wrote:Screw him. We not Me is the team mantra and I'm good with the Rams not caving to his demands. The Rams have said all the right things like "he deserves a great contract, he's a great player," but other teams are watching this saga play out and hoping the Rams don't set a bad precedent by giving him an opt out and adversely changing the landscape of rookie contracts and veteran holdouts.It's time for the Rams to set a hard deadline and either he needs to get in and help out or sit it out and the teams moves on without him. The Rams have tried to not make this a distraction, but it will become one and will dominate every post game and Monday afternoon press briefing. Imagine the Rams not getting any sacks and give up 100 yards to the Colts RB what the media circus would be. Only if the Rams had AD etc. will become the story.AD will get a new contract, but if wants to be the NFL equivalent of Curt Flood or Andy Messersmith by holding out and changing the rules by how player contracts are negotiated, he's making a big mistake. The rules are instituted by a Collective Bargaining Agreement where the NFLPA and the NFL agree to parameters and no individual holdout is going to alter those rules mid CBA. Those rules need to be negotiated at the time a new CBA is negotiated between the players and owners.Get in and help the team or he can try to get his new contract wearing a different uniform. If he won't sign what's been offered, trade him for a "kings ransom." We not Me!!100% agree with you!My understanding is Donald has to play 8 games to have this year count for him. Does this mean he can chose to come in on game 9 so he meets this criteria and the Rams have to accept it? Is this a correct statement? Thanks by Hacksaw 7 years 10 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Donald Holdout Could Enter Regular Season POST #117 Haden liked this post Let the big boy sit on the couch at home and stew. We need to fix the interior of our D line and fast. Such a drag but I'm all in with the "We Not Me" slogan and he isn't fitting that vision. Let him sit and eat 2 years pay. Sure he deserves more jack but now he's hurting the team that is making him a very wealthy man for playing a kids game at a high level. And as @snackdaddy and others have opined, he might not even do as well in a 3-4 alignment. If he is even hinting at holding out for up to the 8 games, I hope Snead has the Browns GM on speed dial... Send him to Orange purgatory. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS 1 by majik 7 years 10 months ago Total posts: 1269 Joined: Aug 31 2015 New Jersey Pro Bowl Donald Holdout Could Enter Regular Season POST #118 Do the Rams have to let him play the 8 games? Can the Rams go nuclear and tell Donald if you don't report by X date, you will not accrue a year of service? With the way the NFL has the deck stacked in their favor, I can't imagine them not having this in place. At what point do the Rams say do we really want to commit a $20M cap charge for a DT and explore a trade? by BobCarl 7 years 10 months ago Total posts: 4651 Joined: Mar 08 2017 LA Coliseum Superstar Donald Holdout Could Enter Regular Season POST #119 majik wrote:Do the Rams have to let him play the 8 games?No, they don't have to let him play. There are lots of things the Rams can do Can the Rams go nuclear and tell Donald if you don't report by X date, you will not accrue a year of service? I think that Donald has already forfeited an "accrued" year for 2017 ... which he can make up in 2018 ... but this is virtually meaningless to a person who's next contract will be 9-figures At what point do the Rams say do we really want to commit a $20M cap charge for a DT and explore a trade?This team committed a $17M cap charge for a mid tier CB ... why wouldn't they want to offer up just a few mill more for the best defensive player in the NFL? ne supra crepidam sutor iudicaret by Kid Charlamagne 7 years 10 months ago Total posts: 533 Joined: Aug 25 2016 LA Coliseum Veteran Donald Holdout Could Enter Regular Season POST #120 Haden, azramsfan93 liked this post He might as well stay out, he's not going to be ready game 1 at the very least, and guys who hold out seem more likely to get hurt when they return. I'm curious as to what the offer is but to their credit the Rams haven't leaked that info out. 2 Reply 12 / 34 1 12 34 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 337 posts Jul 08 2025
by Hacksaw 7 years 10 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Donald Holdout Could Enter Regular Season POST #117 Haden liked this post Let the big boy sit on the couch at home and stew. We need to fix the interior of our D line and fast. Such a drag but I'm all in with the "We Not Me" slogan and he isn't fitting that vision. Let him sit and eat 2 years pay. Sure he deserves more jack but now he's hurting the team that is making him a very wealthy man for playing a kids game at a high level. And as @snackdaddy and others have opined, he might not even do as well in a 3-4 alignment. If he is even hinting at holding out for up to the 8 games, I hope Snead has the Browns GM on speed dial... Send him to Orange purgatory. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS 1 by majik 7 years 10 months ago Total posts: 1269 Joined: Aug 31 2015 New Jersey Pro Bowl Donald Holdout Could Enter Regular Season POST #118 Do the Rams have to let him play the 8 games? Can the Rams go nuclear and tell Donald if you don't report by X date, you will not accrue a year of service? With the way the NFL has the deck stacked in their favor, I can't imagine them not having this in place. At what point do the Rams say do we really want to commit a $20M cap charge for a DT and explore a trade? by BobCarl 7 years 10 months ago Total posts: 4651 Joined: Mar 08 2017 LA Coliseum Superstar Donald Holdout Could Enter Regular Season POST #119 majik wrote:Do the Rams have to let him play the 8 games?No, they don't have to let him play. There are lots of things the Rams can do Can the Rams go nuclear and tell Donald if you don't report by X date, you will not accrue a year of service? I think that Donald has already forfeited an "accrued" year for 2017 ... which he can make up in 2018 ... but this is virtually meaningless to a person who's next contract will be 9-figures At what point do the Rams say do we really want to commit a $20M cap charge for a DT and explore a trade?This team committed a $17M cap charge for a mid tier CB ... why wouldn't they want to offer up just a few mill more for the best defensive player in the NFL? ne supra crepidam sutor iudicaret by Kid Charlamagne 7 years 10 months ago Total posts: 533 Joined: Aug 25 2016 LA Coliseum Veteran Donald Holdout Could Enter Regular Season POST #120 Haden, azramsfan93 liked this post He might as well stay out, he's not going to be ready game 1 at the very least, and guys who hold out seem more likely to get hurt when they return. I'm curious as to what the offer is but to their credit the Rams haven't leaked that info out. 2 Reply 12 / 34 1 12 34 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 337 posts Jul 08 2025
by majik 7 years 10 months ago Total posts: 1269 Joined: Aug 31 2015 New Jersey Pro Bowl Donald Holdout Could Enter Regular Season POST #118 Do the Rams have to let him play the 8 games? Can the Rams go nuclear and tell Donald if you don't report by X date, you will not accrue a year of service? With the way the NFL has the deck stacked in their favor, I can't imagine them not having this in place. At what point do the Rams say do we really want to commit a $20M cap charge for a DT and explore a trade? by BobCarl 7 years 10 months ago Total posts: 4651 Joined: Mar 08 2017 LA Coliseum Superstar Donald Holdout Could Enter Regular Season POST #119 majik wrote:Do the Rams have to let him play the 8 games?No, they don't have to let him play. There are lots of things the Rams can do Can the Rams go nuclear and tell Donald if you don't report by X date, you will not accrue a year of service? I think that Donald has already forfeited an "accrued" year for 2017 ... which he can make up in 2018 ... but this is virtually meaningless to a person who's next contract will be 9-figures At what point do the Rams say do we really want to commit a $20M cap charge for a DT and explore a trade?This team committed a $17M cap charge for a mid tier CB ... why wouldn't they want to offer up just a few mill more for the best defensive player in the NFL? ne supra crepidam sutor iudicaret by Kid Charlamagne 7 years 10 months ago Total posts: 533 Joined: Aug 25 2016 LA Coliseum Veteran Donald Holdout Could Enter Regular Season POST #120 Haden, azramsfan93 liked this post He might as well stay out, he's not going to be ready game 1 at the very least, and guys who hold out seem more likely to get hurt when they return. I'm curious as to what the offer is but to their credit the Rams haven't leaked that info out. 2 Reply 12 / 34 1 12 34 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 337 posts Jul 08 2025
by BobCarl 7 years 10 months ago Total posts: 4651 Joined: Mar 08 2017 LA Coliseum Superstar Donald Holdout Could Enter Regular Season POST #119 majik wrote:Do the Rams have to let him play the 8 games?No, they don't have to let him play. There are lots of things the Rams can do Can the Rams go nuclear and tell Donald if you don't report by X date, you will not accrue a year of service? I think that Donald has already forfeited an "accrued" year for 2017 ... which he can make up in 2018 ... but this is virtually meaningless to a person who's next contract will be 9-figures At what point do the Rams say do we really want to commit a $20M cap charge for a DT and explore a trade?This team committed a $17M cap charge for a mid tier CB ... why wouldn't they want to offer up just a few mill more for the best defensive player in the NFL? ne supra crepidam sutor iudicaret by Kid Charlamagne 7 years 10 months ago Total posts: 533 Joined: Aug 25 2016 LA Coliseum Veteran Donald Holdout Could Enter Regular Season POST #120 Haden, azramsfan93 liked this post He might as well stay out, he's not going to be ready game 1 at the very least, and guys who hold out seem more likely to get hurt when they return. I'm curious as to what the offer is but to their credit the Rams haven't leaked that info out. 2 Reply 12 / 34 1 12 34 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 337 posts Jul 08 2025
by Kid Charlamagne 7 years 10 months ago Total posts: 533 Joined: Aug 25 2016 LA Coliseum Veteran Donald Holdout Could Enter Regular Season POST #120 Haden, azramsfan93 liked this post He might as well stay out, he's not going to be ready game 1 at the very least, and guys who hold out seem more likely to get hurt when they return. I'm curious as to what the offer is but to their credit the Rams haven't leaked that info out. 2 Reply 12 / 34 1 12 34 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business