[Rams the Legends live on]

Totally. The Rams have to play better though.
If / when we start our ascent to the top of the standings (at least more frequently) there is no way the Chargers will compete in our market. If they start winning first ,, well that's a bit of a different story.

It should be interesting and equal footing since we both will be starting this upcoming season with rookie head coaches. I will give us a slight nod because we have deeper pockets for free agency. Our owner is not gonna be burdened with associated moving cost as well as we can afford to take bigger salary cap hits to clean out our roster and sign free agents. If need be of course.

[moklerman]

The Giants were a train wreck in the late 70's early 80's with Joe Pisarcik miracle in the Meadowlands nonsense and the Jets were having success with the Richard Todd era and the NY Sack exchange and STILL they were the red-headed step child compared to the Giants

Now the Chargers are going to play in front of 20k for 2 years while their QB winds out his career. By the time Englewood opens, the Chargers will be a mess. Sure I am planning on the Rams having success in the next 2 seasons, but it doesn't need to be SB wins. A real offense will do the trick as the D will be just fine. (Unlike San Diego)

The Giants went to the playoffs in the '80's 5 times, starting in 1981. Jets went 4 times. Don't see why they'd overtake the Giants for that.

[moklerman]

It should be interesting and equal footing since we both will be starting this upcoming season with rookie head coaches. I will give us a slight nod because we have deeper pockets for free agency. Our owner is not gonna be burdened with associated moving cost as well as we can afford to take bigger salary cap hits to clean out our roster and sign free agents. If need be of course.

HC wise, probably relatively equal. QB wise, Chargers have a huge advantage.

But, I wonder how long Rivers is going to want to play if he's playing in a soccer stadium in a town he doesn't want to be in?

[St. Loser Fan]

I don't think this is over until next week. Until the League signs off this isn't a done deal. I still think the NFL scrambles and finds miracle money to save the San Diego Chargers.

Stan's Greatest Stadium in the Whole Wide World with an open slot is a big threat. San Diego open is almost no threat.

[Rams the Legends live on]

I don't think so unless San Diego finds $500, 600 or 700 million of it's own lying around to throw at a team. That seems to be the current extortion price.

I think any future team in Cali is gonna go the way of the Rams. The owner will have to build like Stan is in LA. The only way the Chargers are getting a stadium is because Stan built it.

Whereas the Raiders have to leave state for one. So I believe at least for any immediate future I can see the two most logical cities for a NFL team, SD and Oakland. Will require the future owner and any partnership they build will to have to be prepared to ante up for these markets whether that be all or a portion.

[St. Loser Fan]

I think any future team in Cali is gonna go the way of the Rams. The owner will have to build like Stan is in LA. The only way the Chargers are getting a stadium is because Stan built it.

Whereas the Raiders have to leave state for one. So I believe at least for any immediate future I can see the two most logical cities for a NFL team, SD and Oakland. Will require the future owner and any partnership they build will to have to be prepared to ante up for these markets whether that be all or a portion.

So the Chargers go to LA and the Raiders go to Las Vegas, which teams do you see moving to San Diego and Oakland?

[Rams the Legends live on]

HC wise, probably relatively equal. QB wise, Chargers have a huge advantage.

But, I wonder how long Rivers is going to want to play if he's playing in a soccer stadium in a town he doesn't want to be in?

I can see for the now where Rivers is a advantage, but I also figured by the time Inglewood opens. We could have the greater advantage cause we could have in force our franchise QB. While SD will be looking for their next one.

Coach wise yea I do see us as on equal footing cause both are rooks and we know there is no guarantee for success or failure. So we both will start this season with question marks at that ever important leadership role.

[Rams the Legends live on]

So the Chargers go to LA and the Raiders go to Las Vegas, which teams do you see moving to San Diego and Oakland?

Honestly bro I see a expansion down the road more so than a current team moving there. An you will call me crazy......LOL I see StL having a shot at a team again.

I can see the next expansion being a four team deal and since we have no current data to draw from for that future. My speculation for now would have StL, SD, Oak, and London as the most viable places for teams.

Out of these I would find London the most challenging for the obvious reasons.

[St. Loser Fan]

An you will call me crazy......LOL I see StL having a shot at a team again.

St. Louis is completely torched as an NFL market. Almost nobody here, civilian or politician wants the NFL back. You can put Omaha, Little Rock and Butte Montana ahead of us. The hangover from the Rams killed the MLS soccer stadium proposal in the cradle and has put the Scottrade Center's renovation in danger.

The way it sounds, the Washington Redskins and Tampa Bay Buccaneers could be the next ones play the "give us money or we'll move" threat cards.

[Rams the Legends live on]

St. Louis is completely torched as an NFL market. Almost nobody here, civilian or politician wants the NFL back. You can put Omaha, Little Rock and Butte Montana ahead of us. The hangover from the Rams killed the MLS soccer stadium proposal in the cradle and has put the Scottrade Center's renovation in danger.

I can see that for the now, but a number more years down the road I believe it will be a different story.

I have bean holding steady for some time to the size of the market as criteria. An like in another post where we interacted. Being so steadfast I missed the way it is trending for owners. An the size of corporate representation is where the real money is for them. Fans in the seats don't compare to corp dollars and sponsorship.

I believe at present like 7 fortune 500 companies are located in the StL metro area. As well as StL continues to draw high marks for a great place to start a business or move one to.

So for all the cracks that appeared during the attempt to keep the Rams. I find business and corps in StL as on a solid foundation. An while StL has lost two teams the positive I see is the city learns from mistakes.

Ya'll solved the problem of why the Cards left so ya could make a team vacate the number two market. That came to be a problem that bit the city in the end. However I don't see that problem happening again in the future.

As the evidence points clearly to me ya'll resolve past problems before ya move ahead.

So I believe that will hold true come the next round of expansion and coupled with the fact ya do have corporate representation. I have to say my analysis leads me to believe StL while down from the recent heartbreak is no where near out. Which makes me believe StL will have a proposal on the table come the next round of expansion.