[CRamsFly]

Here's another table from Football Database - career TD/Int ratio leaders.

TD/Int
1 Patrick Mahomes, 2017-20 4.74
2 Aaron Rodgers, 2005-20 4.58
3 Russell Wilson, 2012-20 3.29
4 Tom Brady, 2000-20 3.01
5 Deshaun Watson, 2017-20 2.74
6 Dak Prescott, 2016-20 2.65
7 Derek Carr, 2014-20 2.42
8 Colin Kaepernick, 2011-16 2.4
9 Drew Brees, 2001-20 2.35
10 Carson Wentz, 2016-20 2.26
11 Kirk Cousins, 2012-20 2.19
12 Steve Young, 1985-99 2.17
13 Matt Ryan, 2008-20 2.15
14 Peyton Manning, 1998-15 2.15
15 Tony Romo, 2004-17 2.12
16 Andrew Luck, 2012-19 2.06
17 Philip Rivers, 2004-20 2.01
18 Ryan Tannehill, 2012-20 2.01
19 Donovan McNabb, 1999-11 2
20 Jared Goff, 2016-20 1.98
21 Joe Montana, 1979-90,92-94 1.96
22 Ben Roethlisberger, 2004-20 1.96
23 Matthew Stafford, 2009-20 1.94
24 Jeff Garcia, 1999-09,11 1.94
25 Nick Foles, 2012-20 1.88
26 Alex Smith, 2005-20 1.84
27 Neil O'Donnell, 1990-03 1.76
28 Rich Gannon, 1987-93,95-04 1.73
29 Andy Dalton, 2011-20 1.72
30 Marcus Mariota, 2015-20 1.71
31 Mark Brunell, 1993-11 1.7
32 Sam Bradford, 2010-18 1.69
33 Dan Marino, 1983-99 1.67
34 David Garrard, 2002-13 1.65
35 Kurt Warner, 1998-09 1.62
36 Case Keenum, 2012-20 1.6
37 Chad Pennington, 2000-10 1.59
38 Cam Newton, 2011-20 1.58
39 Carson Palmer, 2004-17 1.57
40 Joe Flacco, 2008-20 1.56
41 Randall Cunningham, 1985-95,97-01 1.54
42 Brett Favre, 1991-10 1.51
43 Michael Vick, 2001-07,09-15 1.51
44 Neil Lomax, 1981-88 1.51
45 Eli Manning, 2004-19 1.5
46 Matt Schaub, 2004-20 1.49
47 Brian Hoyer, 2009-20 1.49
48 Steve Bono, 1985-99 1.48
49 Kyle Orton, 2005-14 1.46
50 Steve McNair, 1995-07 1.46

Goff at #20, just ahead of Joe Montana and Roethlisberger. Wow, Dan Marino at #33 and Kurt Warner at #35. Mahomes and Rodgers are head-and-shoulders above.

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Goff at #20, just ahead of Joe Montana and Roethlisberger. Wow, Dan Marino at #33 and Kurt Warner at #35. Mahomes and Rodgers are head-and-shoulders above.

Rodgers just doesn't turn the ball over, with interceptions or fumbles. He has 6 turnovers this year, 8 in 2019, 5 in 2018 and 7 in 2017 (in 7 games). That's 26 turnovers. Here's the rub. He's had 18 of them in 10 of his 52 games. For those who are interested in percentages, that's 69% of his turnovers in 19% of his starts and Green Bay is 1-9. That's not a turnover problem, I suppose because he doesn't turn it over very much. Over the last 2 years, Goff has 50% of his turnovers in 18% of his games and the Rams are 2-4. That means the other 50% of his turnovers are in 82% of his games and the Rams are 16-7. That is a turnover problem?

[ramsman34]

Rodgers just doesn't turn the ball over, with interceptions or fumbles. He has 6 turnovers this year, 8 in 2019, 5 in 2018 and 7 in 2017 (in 7 games). That's 26 turnovers. Here's the rub. He's had 18 of them in 10 of his 52 games. For those who are interested in percentages, that's 69% of his turnovers in 19% of his starts and Green Bay is 1-9. That's not a turnover problem, I suppose because he doesn't turn it over very much. Over the last 2 years, Goff has 50% of his turnovers in 18% of his games and the Rams are 2-4. That means the other 50% of his turnovers are in 82% of his games and the Rams are 16-7. That is a turnover problem?

Well done!

[ramsman34]

Novel idea; stay present and in the moment. I.E. let’s judge Goff Sunday and then every week moving forward. You are as good (or bad) as your last game and the most important game is the next game. Here’s to hoping he is great in each last game and has at least 4 next games to look forward to after the regular season ends - one week at a time.

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Novel idea; stay present and in the moment. I.E. let’s judge Goff Sunday and then every week moving forward. You are as good (or bad) as your last game and the most important game is the next game. Here’s to hoping he is great in each last game and has at least 4 next games to look forward to after the regular season ends - one week at a time.

I agree but let me give you one more set of numbers.

2017-2020:
When he doesn't turn the ball over, the Rams are 20-1.
When he turns it over 3 or more times (7), the Rams are 1-6
When he turns the ball over twice (7), the Rams are 5-2.

So shoot for zero but at the very least keep it under 3 which means a 75% chance for a win (41-12).

[sloramfan]

i can't believe, after the last 3 years, people still want to paint goff as a negative...

geeze loweeze.... it really makes me wonder, what is your real agenda...

because he delivers almost every game...

go rams

slo

[moklerman]

i can't believe, after the last 3 years, people still want to paint goff as a negative...

geeze loweeze.... it really makes me wonder, what is your real agenda...

because he delivers almost every game...

go rams

slo

It isn't an agenda to be dissatisfied with a QB who often struggles against good defenses and in the post season for a perennial 10+ win team. He deserves credit for a variety of things but he also deserves criticism.

[CRamsFly]

i can't believe, after the last 3 years, people still want to paint goff as a negative...

geeze loweeze.... it really makes me wonder, what is your real agenda...

because he delivers almost every game...

go rams

slo

I have to admit, I'm extremely biased. For one, I've been a Rams fan for 45 years. For two, I graduated from Cal so I'm a big Goff fan and want the Rams and Goff to succeed (please let's win a SB!).

However, I do see a decline in Goff's performance from 2017-18 to 2019-20. I don't believe that the decline is purely due to Goff himself - OL, scheme, play-calling, RB, WR, TE, game situations, etc. have all contributed to the decline. But I also believe that Goff needs to play better and can play better. I like his leadership, his grit and determination, and I really think he can improve. After all, he just turned 26. I'm hoping that Goff and the Rams can continue to improve, like Brees/Saints and Brady/Patriots, in their QB's 5th year and beyond. If they can do that, this team should win multiple SB's, especially with the defense also peaking in AD's and Ramsey's prime years.

[69RamFan]

I agree but let me give you one more set of numbers.

2017-2020:
When he doesn't turn the ball over, the Rams are 20-1.
When he turns it over 3 or more times (7), the Rams are 1-6
When he turns the ball over twice (7), the Rams are 5-2.

So shoot for zero but at the very least keep it under 3 which means a 75% chance for a win (41-12).

Just to give some other thoughts in those games where he has the 3 or more TO games....

Can we give him all the blame in those TO's??? I certainly don't... but those that just look at the numbers and really don't account for those who made the missed assignments in blocking...

Against Miami,,, I know one for sure was on him,,, but it was just a good design defensive play by Miami,,, so I'm not going to take him down for that one play...

The other three turnovers,,, were not his fault,,, IMO

two fumbles because of a missed blocking assignment by DH and poor blocking by Everett on Goff's blind side...

Then the blitz right up the gut and no one blocking him in which he hit Goff during the throw making it an off throw... RB, I believe it was Brown that should of taken the inside rusher and let the outside rush come in free, because it was a longer rush than the inside..... just to many poor game planning for blocking assignments,,,

[aeneas1]

It seems you're taking things to places I never went.

you've said goff has a turnover problem, i asked you a simple question that spoke directly to this and you didn't answer, so i'll ask again:

are you satisfied with goff's turnover rate in 11 of the 13 games he's played this season, his 0.73 rate in those 11 games? or do you think his turnovers in those games weren't an "insignificant problem" either?

And, not surprisingly, you circle back to making this about McVay and your gripes with him.

gripes with him? i love mcvay, couldn't be happier that he's the rams head coach... but i'm also convinced that he continues to struggle against certain defenses and certain defensive looks... you seem to think that there's nothing wrong with his x's and o's, that when his gameplan doesn't succeed it's either because of goff or poor execution.

You want to make it about blanket statements that mean more than what I'm saying.

you claim goff has a turnover problem, and that's what i've addressed, argued, what blanket statements do you think i've made that mischaracterizes what you've been saying?

Jared Goff has a turnover problem. That turnover problem is the occasional tendency to make some brain dead turovers?

ok, finally, no we're getting somewhere... so to you an "occasional tendency to make some brain dead turovers" is the definition of a guy with a turnover problem? wish you would have just led with this!

I don't know what to tell you... But the margin for error for winning a Super Bowl ain't big.

i think most fans are aware of that, in fact warner played in 2 super bowls where his pick-sixes were the difference in the game, at least in terms of points... brees, on his home turf no less,, in the championship game no less, threw one up for grabs while getting hit rather than taking a sack, which arguably cost the saints the game, while goff desperately flung the ball sidearm with a guy in his face, twice, rather than take a sack, which arguably won the game for the rams... i don't know what to tell ya, but playing the qb position is tough.

And... Goff has rebounded! He's a good QB, for the most part! Haven't said different!

rebounded? more like he hasn't faced shanny's / saleh's defense or a team that plays 0 coverage all game recently, but if you want to chalk it up as a rebound, as his random, unpredictable turnover issues not rearing their ugly head recently, have at it.... that said, i think he's a good qb too, not mayfield, bradord, wentz, etc. good mind you, but maybe someday, fingers crossed!