by aeneas1 6 years 5 months ago Total posts: 16894 Joined: Sep 13 2015 Norcal Hall of Fame PI call/no call - how long do we have to listen to this POST #101 AvengerRam wrote:That's not true. There are photos - posted here - that show that what you are saying is not true.next i suppose you're going to insist that cooks didn't get any body parts down on that dropped td against dallas, that even if he had caught the pass it wouldn't have been a td. by HAL 9000 6 years 5 months ago Total posts: 1009 Joined: Jan 20 2016 Jupiter Pro Bowl PI call/no call - how long do we have to listen to this POST #102 Last edited by HAL 9000 on Jan 22 2019, edited 3 times in total. ScottyD liked this post Now the National "fake news" is covering this "no call", not only yesterday but this morning. The focus today; the petition to the NFL to replay the game as if this is a serious consideration. I got news for Saints fans, you had your replay it's called; Stop the Rams from scoring a tying field goal in the last minute of regulation. Also, getting another chance to score first in overtime. And yet another chance to stop the Rams from scoring to win the game. You had your chances, I'm sorry, but you blew those three golden opportunities. You know why? The Rams are the better team. Rams > God > Family > Country > Scum > Niners 1 by St. Loser Fan 6 years 5 months ago Total posts: 10889 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame PI call/no call - how long do we have to listen to this POST #103 HAL 9000 wrote:Now the National "fake news" is covering this "no call", not only yesterday but this morning. The focus; the petition to the NFL to replay the game as if this is a serious consideration. I got news for Saints fans you had your replay it's called; Stop the Rams from scoring a tying field goal in the last minute of regulation. Also, getting another chance to score first in overtime. And yet another chance to stop the Rams from scoring to win the game. You had your chances, I'm sorry, but you blew those three golden opportunities. You know why? The Rams were the better team.It’s a convenient thing to use in order to fill broadcasting time and the dead week that happens after the conference championships. by ramsfan1977 6 years 5 months ago Total posts: 1319 Joined: Nov 02 2015 New Jersey Pro Bowl PI call/no call - how long do we have to listen to this POST #104 Elvis, ScottyD liked this post Once the NFL prints one of these and sells it on its Site. There is no turning back. Saints see you in 2019. Game will not be overturned. Come on people. Enjoy the next 2 weeks. Party like it's 1979!!!!! 2 by Horny Mcbae 6 years 5 months ago Total posts: 1543 Joined: Mar 12 2018 South Bay, Los Angeles Pro Bowl PI call/no call - how long do we have to listen to this POST #105 Hacksaw liked this post St. Loser Fan wrote: 1 by snackdaddy 6 years 5 months ago Total posts: 10048 Joined: May 30 2015 Merced California Hall of Fame Re: PI call/no call - how long do we have to listen to this POST #106 Well, gotta give Payton credit for this one. He really screwed the pooch with his play calling. But now all of the attention is on the no call instead of him screwing up. He's got his people up in arms over that even though it should have never come to that point if he just runs the ball. Refs are probably thinking "Sean, why didn't you just run it? You woulda got out of that with a victory and we wouldn't be in this position". by Horny Mcbae 6 years 5 months ago Total posts: 1543 Joined: Mar 12 2018 South Bay, Los Angeles Pro Bowl PI call/no call - how long do we have to listen to this POST #107 As much as people might be saying that the saints got robbed, It was actually refreshing for me to see more than a few TV pundits and experts while acknowledging the bad call put the spotlight on Payton. From the guys on GMFB to Cowherd and Whitlock, Sharpe. I know we don't usually put any credence in what they say, as we shouldn't, but a lot of people do shape their opinions based on their opinions...……. so it was good to see them doing that. Apart from Twitter and Saints fans who are the main folks who made the biggest noise about this? Peter King loves talking about rule changes so he probably did. Bill Simmons on his podcast called it the worst call in NFL history. But even he didn't say that the Rams are undeserved winners. by Flash 6 years 5 months ago Total posts: 1273 Joined: Jan 13 2016 Houston Pro Bowl PI call/no call - how long do we have to listen to this POST #108 aeneas1 wrote:fixed.Did I miss something? RFU Season Ticket Holder by moklerman 6 years 5 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame PI call/no call - how long do we have to listen to this POST #109 Well, I'm sorry I see the facemask as I see it. I've only seen that one angle and the Saints defender hits Goff's facemask open handed while Goff puts his left hand up to protect himself. The Saints defender's hand and arm get mushed together with Goff's facemask and hand. I don't happen to see the defender's hand grasp the facemask. I tried slowing it down but I just don't see it from that angle. I could be missing it. I'm also not saying the play should have been called one way or the other. Just that I could see why the play was debatable because I never saw the facemask get grasped by the hand.Is it possible that the open handed blow turned his head? That's what I thought. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong but I thought that it wasn't a clear grasp, hold and twist. But I did "want" the call. Rams needed it on that drive. Absolutely hated to have to kick the FG. by St. Loser Fan 6 years 5 months ago Total posts: 10889 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame PI call/no call - how long do we have to listen to this POST #110 moklerman wrote:Well, I'm sorry I see the facemask as I see it. I've only seen that one angle and the Saints defender hits Goff's facemask open handed while Goff puts his left hand up to protect himself. The Saints defender's hand and arm get mushed together with Goff's facemask and hand. I don't happen to see the defender's hand grasp the facemask. I tried slowing it down but I just don't see it from that angle. I could be missing it. I'm also not saying the play should have been called one way or the other. Just that I could see why the play was debatable because I never saw the facemask get grasped by the hand.Is it possible that the open handed blow turned his head? That's what I thought. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong but I thought that it wasn't a clear grasp, hold and twist. But I did "want" the call. Rams needed it on that drive. Absolutely hated to have to kick the FG.I agree with you completely. I don't understand the people who are acting like it was some vicious, neck snapping facemask worthy of 15 yards and expulsion from the game.As I stated elsewhere that "incidental and open hand" face mask was still a 5 yard penalty up until 3 years ago when the rule was changed. Maybe that's where the anger is coming from? 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by HAL 9000 6 years 5 months ago Total posts: 1009 Joined: Jan 20 2016 Jupiter Pro Bowl PI call/no call - how long do we have to listen to this POST #102 Last edited by HAL 9000 on Jan 22 2019, edited 3 times in total. ScottyD liked this post Now the National "fake news" is covering this "no call", not only yesterday but this morning. The focus today; the petition to the NFL to replay the game as if this is a serious consideration. I got news for Saints fans, you had your replay it's called; Stop the Rams from scoring a tying field goal in the last minute of regulation. Also, getting another chance to score first in overtime. And yet another chance to stop the Rams from scoring to win the game. You had your chances, I'm sorry, but you blew those three golden opportunities. You know why? The Rams are the better team. Rams > God > Family > Country > Scum > Niners 1 by St. Loser Fan 6 years 5 months ago Total posts: 10889 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame PI call/no call - how long do we have to listen to this POST #103 HAL 9000 wrote:Now the National "fake news" is covering this "no call", not only yesterday but this morning. The focus; the petition to the NFL to replay the game as if this is a serious consideration. I got news for Saints fans you had your replay it's called; Stop the Rams from scoring a tying field goal in the last minute of regulation. Also, getting another chance to score first in overtime. And yet another chance to stop the Rams from scoring to win the game. You had your chances, I'm sorry, but you blew those three golden opportunities. You know why? The Rams were the better team.It’s a convenient thing to use in order to fill broadcasting time and the dead week that happens after the conference championships. by ramsfan1977 6 years 5 months ago Total posts: 1319 Joined: Nov 02 2015 New Jersey Pro Bowl PI call/no call - how long do we have to listen to this POST #104 Elvis, ScottyD liked this post Once the NFL prints one of these and sells it on its Site. There is no turning back. Saints see you in 2019. Game will not be overturned. Come on people. Enjoy the next 2 weeks. Party like it's 1979!!!!! 2 by Horny Mcbae 6 years 5 months ago Total posts: 1543 Joined: Mar 12 2018 South Bay, Los Angeles Pro Bowl PI call/no call - how long do we have to listen to this POST #105 Hacksaw liked this post St. Loser Fan wrote: 1 by snackdaddy 6 years 5 months ago Total posts: 10048 Joined: May 30 2015 Merced California Hall of Fame Re: PI call/no call - how long do we have to listen to this POST #106 Well, gotta give Payton credit for this one. He really screwed the pooch with his play calling. But now all of the attention is on the no call instead of him screwing up. He's got his people up in arms over that even though it should have never come to that point if he just runs the ball. Refs are probably thinking "Sean, why didn't you just run it? You woulda got out of that with a victory and we wouldn't be in this position". by Horny Mcbae 6 years 5 months ago Total posts: 1543 Joined: Mar 12 2018 South Bay, Los Angeles Pro Bowl PI call/no call - how long do we have to listen to this POST #107 As much as people might be saying that the saints got robbed, It was actually refreshing for me to see more than a few TV pundits and experts while acknowledging the bad call put the spotlight on Payton. From the guys on GMFB to Cowherd and Whitlock, Sharpe. I know we don't usually put any credence in what they say, as we shouldn't, but a lot of people do shape their opinions based on their opinions...……. so it was good to see them doing that. Apart from Twitter and Saints fans who are the main folks who made the biggest noise about this? Peter King loves talking about rule changes so he probably did. Bill Simmons on his podcast called it the worst call in NFL history. But even he didn't say that the Rams are undeserved winners. by Flash 6 years 5 months ago Total posts: 1273 Joined: Jan 13 2016 Houston Pro Bowl PI call/no call - how long do we have to listen to this POST #108 aeneas1 wrote:fixed.Did I miss something? RFU Season Ticket Holder by moklerman 6 years 5 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame PI call/no call - how long do we have to listen to this POST #109 Well, I'm sorry I see the facemask as I see it. I've only seen that one angle and the Saints defender hits Goff's facemask open handed while Goff puts his left hand up to protect himself. The Saints defender's hand and arm get mushed together with Goff's facemask and hand. I don't happen to see the defender's hand grasp the facemask. I tried slowing it down but I just don't see it from that angle. I could be missing it. I'm also not saying the play should have been called one way or the other. Just that I could see why the play was debatable because I never saw the facemask get grasped by the hand.Is it possible that the open handed blow turned his head? That's what I thought. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong but I thought that it wasn't a clear grasp, hold and twist. But I did "want" the call. Rams needed it on that drive. Absolutely hated to have to kick the FG. by St. Loser Fan 6 years 5 months ago Total posts: 10889 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame PI call/no call - how long do we have to listen to this POST #110 moklerman wrote:Well, I'm sorry I see the facemask as I see it. I've only seen that one angle and the Saints defender hits Goff's facemask open handed while Goff puts his left hand up to protect himself. The Saints defender's hand and arm get mushed together with Goff's facemask and hand. I don't happen to see the defender's hand grasp the facemask. I tried slowing it down but I just don't see it from that angle. I could be missing it. I'm also not saying the play should have been called one way or the other. Just that I could see why the play was debatable because I never saw the facemask get grasped by the hand.Is it possible that the open handed blow turned his head? That's what I thought. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong but I thought that it wasn't a clear grasp, hold and twist. But I did "want" the call. Rams needed it on that drive. Absolutely hated to have to kick the FG.I agree with you completely. I don't understand the people who are acting like it was some vicious, neck snapping facemask worthy of 15 yards and expulsion from the game.As I stated elsewhere that "incidental and open hand" face mask was still a 5 yard penalty up until 3 years ago when the rule was changed. Maybe that's where the anger is coming from? Reply 11 / 33 1 11 33 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 322 posts Jul 07 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by St. Loser Fan 6 years 5 months ago Total posts: 10889 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame PI call/no call - how long do we have to listen to this POST #103 HAL 9000 wrote:Now the National "fake news" is covering this "no call", not only yesterday but this morning. The focus; the petition to the NFL to replay the game as if this is a serious consideration. I got news for Saints fans you had your replay it's called; Stop the Rams from scoring a tying field goal in the last minute of regulation. Also, getting another chance to score first in overtime. And yet another chance to stop the Rams from scoring to win the game. You had your chances, I'm sorry, but you blew those three golden opportunities. You know why? The Rams were the better team.It’s a convenient thing to use in order to fill broadcasting time and the dead week that happens after the conference championships. by ramsfan1977 6 years 5 months ago Total posts: 1319 Joined: Nov 02 2015 New Jersey Pro Bowl PI call/no call - how long do we have to listen to this POST #104 Elvis, ScottyD liked this post Once the NFL prints one of these and sells it on its Site. There is no turning back. Saints see you in 2019. Game will not be overturned. Come on people. Enjoy the next 2 weeks. Party like it's 1979!!!!! 2 by Horny Mcbae 6 years 5 months ago Total posts: 1543 Joined: Mar 12 2018 South Bay, Los Angeles Pro Bowl PI call/no call - how long do we have to listen to this POST #105 Hacksaw liked this post St. Loser Fan wrote: 1 by snackdaddy 6 years 5 months ago Total posts: 10048 Joined: May 30 2015 Merced California Hall of Fame Re: PI call/no call - how long do we have to listen to this POST #106 Well, gotta give Payton credit for this one. He really screwed the pooch with his play calling. But now all of the attention is on the no call instead of him screwing up. He's got his people up in arms over that even though it should have never come to that point if he just runs the ball. Refs are probably thinking "Sean, why didn't you just run it? You woulda got out of that with a victory and we wouldn't be in this position". by Horny Mcbae 6 years 5 months ago Total posts: 1543 Joined: Mar 12 2018 South Bay, Los Angeles Pro Bowl PI call/no call - how long do we have to listen to this POST #107 As much as people might be saying that the saints got robbed, It was actually refreshing for me to see more than a few TV pundits and experts while acknowledging the bad call put the spotlight on Payton. From the guys on GMFB to Cowherd and Whitlock, Sharpe. I know we don't usually put any credence in what they say, as we shouldn't, but a lot of people do shape their opinions based on their opinions...……. so it was good to see them doing that. Apart from Twitter and Saints fans who are the main folks who made the biggest noise about this? Peter King loves talking about rule changes so he probably did. Bill Simmons on his podcast called it the worst call in NFL history. But even he didn't say that the Rams are undeserved winners. by Flash 6 years 5 months ago Total posts: 1273 Joined: Jan 13 2016 Houston Pro Bowl PI call/no call - how long do we have to listen to this POST #108 aeneas1 wrote:fixed.Did I miss something? RFU Season Ticket Holder by moklerman 6 years 5 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame PI call/no call - how long do we have to listen to this POST #109 Well, I'm sorry I see the facemask as I see it. I've only seen that one angle and the Saints defender hits Goff's facemask open handed while Goff puts his left hand up to protect himself. The Saints defender's hand and arm get mushed together with Goff's facemask and hand. I don't happen to see the defender's hand grasp the facemask. I tried slowing it down but I just don't see it from that angle. I could be missing it. I'm also not saying the play should have been called one way or the other. Just that I could see why the play was debatable because I never saw the facemask get grasped by the hand.Is it possible that the open handed blow turned his head? That's what I thought. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong but I thought that it wasn't a clear grasp, hold and twist. But I did "want" the call. Rams needed it on that drive. Absolutely hated to have to kick the FG. by St. Loser Fan 6 years 5 months ago Total posts: 10889 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame PI call/no call - how long do we have to listen to this POST #110 moklerman wrote:Well, I'm sorry I see the facemask as I see it. I've only seen that one angle and the Saints defender hits Goff's facemask open handed while Goff puts his left hand up to protect himself. The Saints defender's hand and arm get mushed together with Goff's facemask and hand. I don't happen to see the defender's hand grasp the facemask. I tried slowing it down but I just don't see it from that angle. I could be missing it. I'm also not saying the play should have been called one way or the other. Just that I could see why the play was debatable because I never saw the facemask get grasped by the hand.Is it possible that the open handed blow turned his head? That's what I thought. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong but I thought that it wasn't a clear grasp, hold and twist. But I did "want" the call. Rams needed it on that drive. Absolutely hated to have to kick the FG.I agree with you completely. I don't understand the people who are acting like it was some vicious, neck snapping facemask worthy of 15 yards and expulsion from the game.As I stated elsewhere that "incidental and open hand" face mask was still a 5 yard penalty up until 3 years ago when the rule was changed. Maybe that's where the anger is coming from? Reply 11 / 33 1 11 33 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 322 posts Jul 07 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by ramsfan1977 6 years 5 months ago Total posts: 1319 Joined: Nov 02 2015 New Jersey Pro Bowl PI call/no call - how long do we have to listen to this POST #104 Elvis, ScottyD liked this post Once the NFL prints one of these and sells it on its Site. There is no turning back. Saints see you in 2019. Game will not be overturned. Come on people. Enjoy the next 2 weeks. Party like it's 1979!!!!! 2 by Horny Mcbae 6 years 5 months ago Total posts: 1543 Joined: Mar 12 2018 South Bay, Los Angeles Pro Bowl PI call/no call - how long do we have to listen to this POST #105 Hacksaw liked this post St. Loser Fan wrote: 1 by snackdaddy 6 years 5 months ago Total posts: 10048 Joined: May 30 2015 Merced California Hall of Fame Re: PI call/no call - how long do we have to listen to this POST #106 Well, gotta give Payton credit for this one. He really screwed the pooch with his play calling. But now all of the attention is on the no call instead of him screwing up. He's got his people up in arms over that even though it should have never come to that point if he just runs the ball. Refs are probably thinking "Sean, why didn't you just run it? You woulda got out of that with a victory and we wouldn't be in this position". by Horny Mcbae 6 years 5 months ago Total posts: 1543 Joined: Mar 12 2018 South Bay, Los Angeles Pro Bowl PI call/no call - how long do we have to listen to this POST #107 As much as people might be saying that the saints got robbed, It was actually refreshing for me to see more than a few TV pundits and experts while acknowledging the bad call put the spotlight on Payton. From the guys on GMFB to Cowherd and Whitlock, Sharpe. I know we don't usually put any credence in what they say, as we shouldn't, but a lot of people do shape their opinions based on their opinions...……. so it was good to see them doing that. Apart from Twitter and Saints fans who are the main folks who made the biggest noise about this? Peter King loves talking about rule changes so he probably did. Bill Simmons on his podcast called it the worst call in NFL history. But even he didn't say that the Rams are undeserved winners. by Flash 6 years 5 months ago Total posts: 1273 Joined: Jan 13 2016 Houston Pro Bowl PI call/no call - how long do we have to listen to this POST #108 aeneas1 wrote:fixed.Did I miss something? RFU Season Ticket Holder by moklerman 6 years 5 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame PI call/no call - how long do we have to listen to this POST #109 Well, I'm sorry I see the facemask as I see it. I've only seen that one angle and the Saints defender hits Goff's facemask open handed while Goff puts his left hand up to protect himself. The Saints defender's hand and arm get mushed together with Goff's facemask and hand. I don't happen to see the defender's hand grasp the facemask. I tried slowing it down but I just don't see it from that angle. I could be missing it. I'm also not saying the play should have been called one way or the other. Just that I could see why the play was debatable because I never saw the facemask get grasped by the hand.Is it possible that the open handed blow turned his head? That's what I thought. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong but I thought that it wasn't a clear grasp, hold and twist. But I did "want" the call. Rams needed it on that drive. Absolutely hated to have to kick the FG. by St. Loser Fan 6 years 5 months ago Total posts: 10889 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame PI call/no call - how long do we have to listen to this POST #110 moklerman wrote:Well, I'm sorry I see the facemask as I see it. I've only seen that one angle and the Saints defender hits Goff's facemask open handed while Goff puts his left hand up to protect himself. The Saints defender's hand and arm get mushed together with Goff's facemask and hand. I don't happen to see the defender's hand grasp the facemask. I tried slowing it down but I just don't see it from that angle. I could be missing it. I'm also not saying the play should have been called one way or the other. Just that I could see why the play was debatable because I never saw the facemask get grasped by the hand.Is it possible that the open handed blow turned his head? That's what I thought. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong but I thought that it wasn't a clear grasp, hold and twist. But I did "want" the call. Rams needed it on that drive. Absolutely hated to have to kick the FG.I agree with you completely. I don't understand the people who are acting like it was some vicious, neck snapping facemask worthy of 15 yards and expulsion from the game.As I stated elsewhere that "incidental and open hand" face mask was still a 5 yard penalty up until 3 years ago when the rule was changed. Maybe that's where the anger is coming from? 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by Horny Mcbae 6 years 5 months ago Total posts: 1543 Joined: Mar 12 2018 South Bay, Los Angeles Pro Bowl PI call/no call - how long do we have to listen to this POST #105 Hacksaw liked this post St. Loser Fan wrote: 1 by snackdaddy 6 years 5 months ago Total posts: 10048 Joined: May 30 2015 Merced California Hall of Fame Re: PI call/no call - how long do we have to listen to this POST #106 Well, gotta give Payton credit for this one. He really screwed the pooch with his play calling. But now all of the attention is on the no call instead of him screwing up. He's got his people up in arms over that even though it should have never come to that point if he just runs the ball. Refs are probably thinking "Sean, why didn't you just run it? You woulda got out of that with a victory and we wouldn't be in this position". by Horny Mcbae 6 years 5 months ago Total posts: 1543 Joined: Mar 12 2018 South Bay, Los Angeles Pro Bowl PI call/no call - how long do we have to listen to this POST #107 As much as people might be saying that the saints got robbed, It was actually refreshing for me to see more than a few TV pundits and experts while acknowledging the bad call put the spotlight on Payton. From the guys on GMFB to Cowherd and Whitlock, Sharpe. I know we don't usually put any credence in what they say, as we shouldn't, but a lot of people do shape their opinions based on their opinions...……. so it was good to see them doing that. Apart from Twitter and Saints fans who are the main folks who made the biggest noise about this? Peter King loves talking about rule changes so he probably did. Bill Simmons on his podcast called it the worst call in NFL history. But even he didn't say that the Rams are undeserved winners. by Flash 6 years 5 months ago Total posts: 1273 Joined: Jan 13 2016 Houston Pro Bowl PI call/no call - how long do we have to listen to this POST #108 aeneas1 wrote:fixed.Did I miss something? RFU Season Ticket Holder by moklerman 6 years 5 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame PI call/no call - how long do we have to listen to this POST #109 Well, I'm sorry I see the facemask as I see it. I've only seen that one angle and the Saints defender hits Goff's facemask open handed while Goff puts his left hand up to protect himself. The Saints defender's hand and arm get mushed together with Goff's facemask and hand. I don't happen to see the defender's hand grasp the facemask. I tried slowing it down but I just don't see it from that angle. I could be missing it. I'm also not saying the play should have been called one way or the other. Just that I could see why the play was debatable because I never saw the facemask get grasped by the hand.Is it possible that the open handed blow turned his head? That's what I thought. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong but I thought that it wasn't a clear grasp, hold and twist. But I did "want" the call. Rams needed it on that drive. Absolutely hated to have to kick the FG. by St. Loser Fan 6 years 5 months ago Total posts: 10889 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame PI call/no call - how long do we have to listen to this POST #110 moklerman wrote:Well, I'm sorry I see the facemask as I see it. I've only seen that one angle and the Saints defender hits Goff's facemask open handed while Goff puts his left hand up to protect himself. The Saints defender's hand and arm get mushed together with Goff's facemask and hand. I don't happen to see the defender's hand grasp the facemask. I tried slowing it down but I just don't see it from that angle. I could be missing it. I'm also not saying the play should have been called one way or the other. Just that I could see why the play was debatable because I never saw the facemask get grasped by the hand.Is it possible that the open handed blow turned his head? That's what I thought. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong but I thought that it wasn't a clear grasp, hold and twist. But I did "want" the call. Rams needed it on that drive. Absolutely hated to have to kick the FG.I agree with you completely. I don't understand the people who are acting like it was some vicious, neck snapping facemask worthy of 15 yards and expulsion from the game.As I stated elsewhere that "incidental and open hand" face mask was still a 5 yard penalty up until 3 years ago when the rule was changed. Maybe that's where the anger is coming from? Reply 11 / 33 1 11 33 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 322 posts Jul 07 2025
by snackdaddy 6 years 5 months ago Total posts: 10048 Joined: May 30 2015 Merced California Hall of Fame Re: PI call/no call - how long do we have to listen to this POST #106 Well, gotta give Payton credit for this one. He really screwed the pooch with his play calling. But now all of the attention is on the no call instead of him screwing up. He's got his people up in arms over that even though it should have never come to that point if he just runs the ball. Refs are probably thinking "Sean, why didn't you just run it? You woulda got out of that with a victory and we wouldn't be in this position". by Horny Mcbae 6 years 5 months ago Total posts: 1543 Joined: Mar 12 2018 South Bay, Los Angeles Pro Bowl PI call/no call - how long do we have to listen to this POST #107 As much as people might be saying that the saints got robbed, It was actually refreshing for me to see more than a few TV pundits and experts while acknowledging the bad call put the spotlight on Payton. From the guys on GMFB to Cowherd and Whitlock, Sharpe. I know we don't usually put any credence in what they say, as we shouldn't, but a lot of people do shape their opinions based on their opinions...……. so it was good to see them doing that. Apart from Twitter and Saints fans who are the main folks who made the biggest noise about this? Peter King loves talking about rule changes so he probably did. Bill Simmons on his podcast called it the worst call in NFL history. But even he didn't say that the Rams are undeserved winners. by Flash 6 years 5 months ago Total posts: 1273 Joined: Jan 13 2016 Houston Pro Bowl PI call/no call - how long do we have to listen to this POST #108 aeneas1 wrote:fixed.Did I miss something? RFU Season Ticket Holder by moklerman 6 years 5 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame PI call/no call - how long do we have to listen to this POST #109 Well, I'm sorry I see the facemask as I see it. I've only seen that one angle and the Saints defender hits Goff's facemask open handed while Goff puts his left hand up to protect himself. The Saints defender's hand and arm get mushed together with Goff's facemask and hand. I don't happen to see the defender's hand grasp the facemask. I tried slowing it down but I just don't see it from that angle. I could be missing it. I'm also not saying the play should have been called one way or the other. Just that I could see why the play was debatable because I never saw the facemask get grasped by the hand.Is it possible that the open handed blow turned his head? That's what I thought. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong but I thought that it wasn't a clear grasp, hold and twist. But I did "want" the call. Rams needed it on that drive. Absolutely hated to have to kick the FG. by St. Loser Fan 6 years 5 months ago Total posts: 10889 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame PI call/no call - how long do we have to listen to this POST #110 moklerman wrote:Well, I'm sorry I see the facemask as I see it. I've only seen that one angle and the Saints defender hits Goff's facemask open handed while Goff puts his left hand up to protect himself. The Saints defender's hand and arm get mushed together with Goff's facemask and hand. I don't happen to see the defender's hand grasp the facemask. I tried slowing it down but I just don't see it from that angle. I could be missing it. I'm also not saying the play should have been called one way or the other. Just that I could see why the play was debatable because I never saw the facemask get grasped by the hand.Is it possible that the open handed blow turned his head? That's what I thought. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong but I thought that it wasn't a clear grasp, hold and twist. But I did "want" the call. Rams needed it on that drive. Absolutely hated to have to kick the FG.I agree with you completely. I don't understand the people who are acting like it was some vicious, neck snapping facemask worthy of 15 yards and expulsion from the game.As I stated elsewhere that "incidental and open hand" face mask was still a 5 yard penalty up until 3 years ago when the rule was changed. Maybe that's where the anger is coming from? Reply 11 / 33 1 11 33 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 322 posts Jul 07 2025
by Horny Mcbae 6 years 5 months ago Total posts: 1543 Joined: Mar 12 2018 South Bay, Los Angeles Pro Bowl PI call/no call - how long do we have to listen to this POST #107 As much as people might be saying that the saints got robbed, It was actually refreshing for me to see more than a few TV pundits and experts while acknowledging the bad call put the spotlight on Payton. From the guys on GMFB to Cowherd and Whitlock, Sharpe. I know we don't usually put any credence in what they say, as we shouldn't, but a lot of people do shape their opinions based on their opinions...……. so it was good to see them doing that. Apart from Twitter and Saints fans who are the main folks who made the biggest noise about this? Peter King loves talking about rule changes so he probably did. Bill Simmons on his podcast called it the worst call in NFL history. But even he didn't say that the Rams are undeserved winners. by Flash 6 years 5 months ago Total posts: 1273 Joined: Jan 13 2016 Houston Pro Bowl PI call/no call - how long do we have to listen to this POST #108 aeneas1 wrote:fixed.Did I miss something? RFU Season Ticket Holder by moklerman 6 years 5 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame PI call/no call - how long do we have to listen to this POST #109 Well, I'm sorry I see the facemask as I see it. I've only seen that one angle and the Saints defender hits Goff's facemask open handed while Goff puts his left hand up to protect himself. The Saints defender's hand and arm get mushed together with Goff's facemask and hand. I don't happen to see the defender's hand grasp the facemask. I tried slowing it down but I just don't see it from that angle. I could be missing it. I'm also not saying the play should have been called one way or the other. Just that I could see why the play was debatable because I never saw the facemask get grasped by the hand.Is it possible that the open handed blow turned his head? That's what I thought. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong but I thought that it wasn't a clear grasp, hold and twist. But I did "want" the call. Rams needed it on that drive. Absolutely hated to have to kick the FG. by St. Loser Fan 6 years 5 months ago Total posts: 10889 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame PI call/no call - how long do we have to listen to this POST #110 moklerman wrote:Well, I'm sorry I see the facemask as I see it. I've only seen that one angle and the Saints defender hits Goff's facemask open handed while Goff puts his left hand up to protect himself. The Saints defender's hand and arm get mushed together with Goff's facemask and hand. I don't happen to see the defender's hand grasp the facemask. I tried slowing it down but I just don't see it from that angle. I could be missing it. I'm also not saying the play should have been called one way or the other. Just that I could see why the play was debatable because I never saw the facemask get grasped by the hand.Is it possible that the open handed blow turned his head? That's what I thought. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong but I thought that it wasn't a clear grasp, hold and twist. But I did "want" the call. Rams needed it on that drive. Absolutely hated to have to kick the FG.I agree with you completely. I don't understand the people who are acting like it was some vicious, neck snapping facemask worthy of 15 yards and expulsion from the game.As I stated elsewhere that "incidental and open hand" face mask was still a 5 yard penalty up until 3 years ago when the rule was changed. Maybe that's where the anger is coming from? Reply 11 / 33 1 11 33 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 322 posts Jul 07 2025
by Flash 6 years 5 months ago Total posts: 1273 Joined: Jan 13 2016 Houston Pro Bowl PI call/no call - how long do we have to listen to this POST #108 aeneas1 wrote:fixed.Did I miss something? RFU Season Ticket Holder by moklerman 6 years 5 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame PI call/no call - how long do we have to listen to this POST #109 Well, I'm sorry I see the facemask as I see it. I've only seen that one angle and the Saints defender hits Goff's facemask open handed while Goff puts his left hand up to protect himself. The Saints defender's hand and arm get mushed together with Goff's facemask and hand. I don't happen to see the defender's hand grasp the facemask. I tried slowing it down but I just don't see it from that angle. I could be missing it. I'm also not saying the play should have been called one way or the other. Just that I could see why the play was debatable because I never saw the facemask get grasped by the hand.Is it possible that the open handed blow turned his head? That's what I thought. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong but I thought that it wasn't a clear grasp, hold and twist. But I did "want" the call. Rams needed it on that drive. Absolutely hated to have to kick the FG. by St. Loser Fan 6 years 5 months ago Total posts: 10889 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame PI call/no call - how long do we have to listen to this POST #110 moklerman wrote:Well, I'm sorry I see the facemask as I see it. I've only seen that one angle and the Saints defender hits Goff's facemask open handed while Goff puts his left hand up to protect himself. The Saints defender's hand and arm get mushed together with Goff's facemask and hand. I don't happen to see the defender's hand grasp the facemask. I tried slowing it down but I just don't see it from that angle. I could be missing it. I'm also not saying the play should have been called one way or the other. Just that I could see why the play was debatable because I never saw the facemask get grasped by the hand.Is it possible that the open handed blow turned his head? That's what I thought. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong but I thought that it wasn't a clear grasp, hold and twist. But I did "want" the call. Rams needed it on that drive. Absolutely hated to have to kick the FG.I agree with you completely. I don't understand the people who are acting like it was some vicious, neck snapping facemask worthy of 15 yards and expulsion from the game.As I stated elsewhere that "incidental and open hand" face mask was still a 5 yard penalty up until 3 years ago when the rule was changed. Maybe that's where the anger is coming from? Reply 11 / 33 1 11 33 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 322 posts Jul 07 2025
by moklerman 6 years 5 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame PI call/no call - how long do we have to listen to this POST #109 Well, I'm sorry I see the facemask as I see it. I've only seen that one angle and the Saints defender hits Goff's facemask open handed while Goff puts his left hand up to protect himself. The Saints defender's hand and arm get mushed together with Goff's facemask and hand. I don't happen to see the defender's hand grasp the facemask. I tried slowing it down but I just don't see it from that angle. I could be missing it. I'm also not saying the play should have been called one way or the other. Just that I could see why the play was debatable because I never saw the facemask get grasped by the hand.Is it possible that the open handed blow turned his head? That's what I thought. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong but I thought that it wasn't a clear grasp, hold and twist. But I did "want" the call. Rams needed it on that drive. Absolutely hated to have to kick the FG. by St. Loser Fan 6 years 5 months ago Total posts: 10889 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame PI call/no call - how long do we have to listen to this POST #110 moklerman wrote:Well, I'm sorry I see the facemask as I see it. I've only seen that one angle and the Saints defender hits Goff's facemask open handed while Goff puts his left hand up to protect himself. The Saints defender's hand and arm get mushed together with Goff's facemask and hand. I don't happen to see the defender's hand grasp the facemask. I tried slowing it down but I just don't see it from that angle. I could be missing it. I'm also not saying the play should have been called one way or the other. Just that I could see why the play was debatable because I never saw the facemask get grasped by the hand.Is it possible that the open handed blow turned his head? That's what I thought. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong but I thought that it wasn't a clear grasp, hold and twist. But I did "want" the call. Rams needed it on that drive. Absolutely hated to have to kick the FG.I agree with you completely. I don't understand the people who are acting like it was some vicious, neck snapping facemask worthy of 15 yards and expulsion from the game.As I stated elsewhere that "incidental and open hand" face mask was still a 5 yard penalty up until 3 years ago when the rule was changed. Maybe that's where the anger is coming from? Reply 11 / 33 1 11 33 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 322 posts Jul 07 2025
by St. Loser Fan 6 years 5 months ago Total posts: 10889 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame PI call/no call - how long do we have to listen to this POST #110 moklerman wrote:Well, I'm sorry I see the facemask as I see it. I've only seen that one angle and the Saints defender hits Goff's facemask open handed while Goff puts his left hand up to protect himself. The Saints defender's hand and arm get mushed together with Goff's facemask and hand. I don't happen to see the defender's hand grasp the facemask. I tried slowing it down but I just don't see it from that angle. I could be missing it. I'm also not saying the play should have been called one way or the other. Just that I could see why the play was debatable because I never saw the facemask get grasped by the hand.Is it possible that the open handed blow turned his head? That's what I thought. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong but I thought that it wasn't a clear grasp, hold and twist. But I did "want" the call. Rams needed it on that drive. Absolutely hated to have to kick the FG.I agree with you completely. I don't understand the people who are acting like it was some vicious, neck snapping facemask worthy of 15 yards and expulsion from the game.As I stated elsewhere that "incidental and open hand" face mask was still a 5 yard penalty up until 3 years ago when the rule was changed. Maybe that's where the anger is coming from? Reply 11 / 33 1 11 33 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business