[AvengerRam]

You should have titled this “Gerrymandering Goff.”

Yawn.

[AvengerRam]

Well, if it was so horrible, how did Goff get the time to throw as much as he did? You can't have it both ways. Either the pass protection was adequate enough to help generate 500 yards and 30+ points or it was terrible and he didn't have time to throw.

No...the other possibility is that Goff is a very good QB who was able to produce some positive numbers despite extremely poor pass protection. The reason you don’t see that possibility is that you are, once again, predisposed against Goff.

[/zn/]

Well, if it was so horrible, how did Goff get the time to throw as much as he did? You can't have it both ways. Either the pass protection was adequate enough to help generate 500 yards and 30+ points or it was terrible and he didn't have time to throw.

Those are the only 2 choices? And yet neither corresponds to what we saw.

He was pressured the whole game and the fact that he was not sacked more is on him. Though he was hit a number of times.

Anyone can tell by watching the protection was not good. Compare Goff's situation in that game to Winston's, who may actually be the guy you're thinking of.

[aeneas1]

let's start a bradford watch thread - oh wait, the stiff is out of football, no one in a qb starved league was interested... at least we have his pro bowl memories, oh wait... at least we have his winning seasons memories, oh wait... at least we have his postseason memories, oh wait... at least we have mokler's knob slobbering memories, bingo!

[ramsfan1977]

After the 8 games to finish out the 2018 season, it seemed that something happened with Goff's numbers after the bye week. Now, 4 weeks into this season and over his last 12 games, Goff has yet to snap out of his funk.

276/459(60.1%) 3,107(6.7 ypa) 13TD(2.8%)/14INT(3.0%) 77.1 rating with 12 fumbles.

Will the Rams ever get back to the dominant offense that afforded Goff time and open receivers that resulted in gaudy numbers? Or is what they've now done for 3/4 of a season's worth of games more the norm?

I don't think anyone would have guessed that this slump would still be holding on. Averaging 1INT and 1FUM per game is alarming IMO.

So, what do you want to do? Tank for Tua? What is the point of kicking him while he is down? Your like that person that orders everything on the menu then is stunned when the check comes. He is not going anywhere and it's Mcvay's job to get him right.

[dieterbrock]

Good lord. Last year is last year. So pathetic.
You want to talk Goff? Talk 2019. Period.
That’s all that matters because this team is unlike any other McVay team he’s played on.

[AvengerRam]

At the end of the day, this is just a prototypical example of the "blame the QB" game.

Yes... over his last 12 regular season games Goff's numbers have not been what we'd hope to see. But, since you seem to need reminding, this is a team game.

Would it surprise you to know that over that same 12 game span, Todd Gurley suited up 10 times and averaged 67 yards/game, down from the 89 yards/game that he averaged in the 12 previous regulary season games (when Goff too excelled)?

Towards the end of last year and into this year, the offense has underperformed compared to what we had grown to expect in 2017 and the first half of 2018. If you are looking for reasons, there are many candidates:

Defenses finding better game plans against McVay's offense.
Offensive line play deteriorating.
Todd Gurley dealing with a knee issue.
Jared Goff not playing as well as he had.
Cooper Kupp's absence (second half of 2018).

Most fans recognize that it is likely a combination of most, if not all, of these factors.

Others seem to want to make it a "Goff thing." That's an agenda, not an analysis.

[ramsfan1977]

Like I said earlier. If Goff's career is the same as Matt Ryan I would be ok. You can win with Matt Ryan as long as if you have pieces around him.

[dieterbrock]

Well that’s what happens when people don’t watch the games and then just manipulate stats to feed as agenda.
Goff deserves his share of criticism for Sunday’s play, this season’s play for that matter. But to not at least give the guy credit for surviving that pass rush and completing as many passes as he did (the ones to the Rams that is) is just asinine.
Even the biggest Goff critics give credit for that. The oline has been deplorable in pass pro.

[ramsfan1977]

Even the biggest Goff critics give credit for that. The oline has been deplorable in pass pro.

I.e Chris Simms!