[BobCarl]

(after BC reads it)

If anyone wants to keep that article, please copy the link.

thanks for keeping that up for a short while. I have bookmarked the page, so I don't need the link anymore. I will evaluate it later for my own amusement/education.

Regarding the issue, I see both sides.

Some may want to view the topic as a necrophore, I won't argue with them, I get the point, it is valid.

The sociology aspect(S) has me intrigued...

I was a season ticket holder in St. Louis for about 15 years ... loved the Rams ... and met some incredible Rams fans, and received a great football education from the team being in St. Louis.

I grew up in St. Louis and I left for business, social, and rat race reasons. I can't blame Kroenke for having his own reasons for leaving the city either.

I cherish the friends that I went to many games with, and I'm grateful for the fans that had a deeper understand of the game than I did/do.

But even from the team's day one in St. Louis, I was disappointed in the stadium, total fan support, local media support, local corporate support and ownership. Good St. Louis fans got cheated from day one. Sadly, there just wasn't enough good fans in the City.

I find it interesting to study old towns and why some don't exist anymore. Zero, ziltch, no population, no buildings left, etc ... and some bustling and up-and-coming towns that now have populations less than 100 and look like slums.

100 years ago, St. Louis was one of the top 5 cities in America, and was a bigger fashion city than Los Angeles ... it was #2 only to Paris .... Since those days, the city keeps eroding away.

The news that Loser posts is bitter sweet ... still interesting to me anyway.

Cheers!

[St. Loser Fan]

thanks for keeping that up for a short while. I have bookmarked the page, so I don't need the link anymore. I will evaluate it later for my own amusement/education.

Regarding the issue, I see both sides.

Some may want to view the topic as a necrophore, I won't argue with them, I get the point, it is valid.

The sociology aspect(S) has me intrigued...

I was a season ticket holder in St. Louis for about 15 years ... loved the Rams ... and met some incredible Rams fans, and received a great football education from the team being in St. Louis.

I grew up in St. Louis and I left for business, social, and rat race reasons. I can't blame Kroenke for having his own reasons for leaving the city either.

I cherish the friends that I went to many games with, and I'm grateful for the fans that had a deeper understand of the game than I did/do.

But even from the team's day one in St. Louis, I was disappointed in the stadium, total fan support, local media support, local corporate support and ownership. Good St. Louis fans got cheated from day one. Sadly, there just wasn't enough good fans in the City.

I find it interesting to study old towns and why some don't exist anymore. Zero, ziltch, no population, no buildings left, etc ... and some bustling and up-and-coming towns that now have populations less than 100 and look like slums.

100 years ago, St. Louis was one of the top 5 cities in America, and was a bigger fashion city than Los Angeles ... it was #2 only to Paris .... Since those days, the city keeps eroding away.

The news that Loser posts is bitter sweet ... still interesting to me anyway.

Cheers!

I probably wouldn’t be here if it wasn’t family/parent care reasons.

[St. Loser Fan]

[BobCarl]

I would have thought that the "discovery" would have been laid out long before the arguments of the case was made before the judge.

post hock discovery? Scratching my head.

[St. Loser Fan]

Smart PR move. The only thing they need to add now at the old Rams Park is a shelter for kittens and puppies.

[St. Loser Fan]

https://www.stltoday.com/sports/footbal ... -top-story

JEFFERSON CITY • A Missouri appeals court has dumped another attempt by the National Football League to avoid a courtroom showdown over the decision to move the Rams from St. Louis to Los Angeles.

In a tersely worded rebuke issued Tuesday, Missouri Court of Appeals Judge Philip Hess turned down the latest maneuver by the NFL, saying the league’s ongoing attempt to settle the case out of the public eye failed to meet legal muster.

The ruling is another setback for the Rams and the NFL’s 32 owners, who are fighting a 2017 lawsuit filed by the St. Louis Regional Convention and Sports Complex Authority, St. Louis and St. Louis County.

The sports authority, city and county are alleging the move resulted in a breach of contract and unjust enrichment by the Rams, the NFL and its owners.

The Rams, who were in St. Louis for more than 20 years, are 4-0 in their third season on the West Coast.

The lawsuit, one of several that were spawned by the move, claims the relocation of the Rams to Los Angeles violated a 1984 league guideline that was put in place after the Raiders moved from Oakland to Los Angeles.

The league, the Rams and their owner, Stan Kroenke, have argued that the disagreements should be settled outside of a courtroom based on an arbitration agreement entered in 1995 when the Rams relocated to St. Louis from Los Angeles.

A St. Louis City Circuit Court judge nixed the arbitration bid in December. And, with the appeals court ruling Tuesday, the case is poised to return to the lower court for further proceedings.

The decision means that Kroenke likely will have to file documents in open court related to the team’s departure. That possibility could give the NFL and its teams incentive to settle with the regional public entities suing them.

[AvengerRam]

Anyone wondering if the PD is still salty about the Rams' move, the answer is "yes, they are."

[rams74]

Anyone wondering if the PD is still salty about the Rams' move, the answer is "yes, they are."

They're not the only ones who are still salty over the move. Tersely worded rulings by Missouri-based judges, all of which continue to go against Kroenke, sure give the impression of partiality in the case.

[St. Loser Fan]

They're not the only ones who are still salty over the move. Tersely worded rulings by Missouri-based judges, all of which continue to go against Kroenke, sure give the impression of partiality in the case.

I dunno, this is a state judge out of Jefferson City. There is little love lost, if not hatred from the state capital towards St. Louis.

[rams74]

I dunno, this is a state judge out of Jefferson City. There is little love lost, if not hatred from the state capital towards St. Louis.

A quick search for Missouri Court of Appeals Judge Philip M. Hess reveals that, prior to his appointment to the Eastern District, Judge Hess was a partner in the St. Louis law firm of Larsen & Hess. He was appointed to the Court of Appeals by Governor Jay Nixon.

I think that's all we need to know about where Judge Hess' sympathies might lie, relative to this case. For all we know, he might have been a St. Louis Rams' season ticket holder.