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 by /zn/
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dieterbrock wrote:Brilliant strategy allowing the Rams to go up 20-3, thus ""forcing" them to run the ball to burn clock.
Don't think it worked out too well


In theory, it could with a team capable of scoring.

 by Hacksaw
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I don't think that Vance Joseph just dialed up some blueprint TB D to stop our O. I'm going with the cold temperatures and the thinner air contributing a lot to what ever success the Donk's had.

Bring on a deep prevent type D. We all know how that usually works out.

 by /zn/
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Hacksaw wrote:I don't think that Vance Joseph just dialed up some blueprint TB D to stop our O. I'm going with the cold temperatures and the thinner air contributing a lot to what ever success the Donk's had.

Bring on a deep prevent type D. We all know how that usually works out.


It's not deep prevent. It's coverage + pass rush and dial down the run defense. Not all defenses can even play it that way. For example the Broncos ignored play action a lot of the time. Why weren't the Rams as prolific? That's probably a lot of things but not always accounting for the defensive strategy was one of them, as McVay admitted.

And. Disclaimer. This is just conversation. It's not a heavy, gauntlet throwing trash the Rams thing. That was just one game, with some interesting moments McVay himself criticized and presumably learned from.

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 by aeneas1
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dieterbrock wrote:Brilliant strategy allowing the Rams to go up 20-3, thus ""forcing" them to run the ball to burn clock.
Don't think it worked out too well

the rams passed the ball 58% of the time until they got to the 20-3 lead well into the 3rd quarter, then they passed it 8 times and ran 20 times (29% pass ratio), because mcvay didn't trust goff, and because the broncos took away the pass.

 by /zn/
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aeneas1 wrote:mcvay didn't trust goff, and because the broncos took away the pass.


Who are you arguing with? No one in existence says or thinks those things. Well maybe Extremes did. I don't know, I don't obsess over those posts.

Realistically, though, the issue with playcalling in that game, according to McVay himself, was entirely situational. There were calls he said later he would have taken back, and they were all specific to particular situations. The issue at that point was letting Denver back into the game, which is just not good strategically even if they won that time.

I am always encouraged when McV sees those things and takes responsibility for them and talks about improving.

 by Hacksaw
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/zn/ wrote:It's not deep prevent. It's coverage + pass rush and dial down the run defense. Not all defenses can even play it that way. For example the Broncos ignored play action a lot of the time....


If the defensive idea is to keep the players in front of them keying on the deeper patterns the Rams will pick apart the 10 yard zone. That type of strategy might affects Cooks numbers negatively but Gurley could end up breaking Dickerson's SSRR.

TOP matters. What's cool is that opponents think that slowing us down is an option. I guess those who are considering it are admitting their offenses just plain can't keep up.

 by dieterbrock
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aeneas1 wrote:the rams passed the ball 58% of the time until they got to the 20-3 lead well into the 3rd quarter, then they passed it 8 times and ran 20 times (29% pass ratio), because mcvay didn't trust goff, and because the broncos took away the pass.

“Now that they have a 20-3 lead, let’s intentionally let them run the ball”

-Said no one ever...

 by /zn/
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Hacksaw wrote:If the defensive idea is to keep the players in front of them keying on the deeper patterns the Rams will pick apart the 10 yard zone. That type of strategy might affects Cooks numbers negatively but Gurley could end up breaking Dickerson's SSRR.

TOP matters. What's cool is that opponents think that slowing us down is an option. I guess those who are considering it are admitting their offenses just plain can't keep up.


The idea is to let Gurley run. The point being that it slows down the Rams scoring. Long drives running the ball means points don't come as quickly.

That only works obviously if the team using that defensive strategy can score too.

 by Hacksaw
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/zn/ wrote:The idea is to let Gurley run. The point being that it slows down the Rams scoring. Long drives running the ball means points don't come as quickly.

That only works obviously if the team using that defensive strategy can score too.

And score quickly since they wont have the ball as much.

 by /zn/
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Hacksaw wrote:And score quickly since they wont have the ball as much.


Or run themselves too. This would be for example a possible Seattle strategy.

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