[Stranger]

I disagree that Fisher is old fashioned and has been passed by.

I think he is making some stupid choices and is more stubborn than a Saguaro wanting to walk. I also think he is being lazy.

Eagles won today....but, would you rather have a new fashioned Chip Kelly like coach? Fisher just needs to want to win more than he seems to - he is smart enough. Just doesn't seem motivated enough.

eta: how long has Belicheck been coaching? It's not like his "fashion" is not working.

Yes, I think it boils down to laziness, stubbornness and perhaps even arrogance. He seems to lack an overall willingness to change or see things differently.

But when I saw his face immediately after the game, he clearly looked more frustrated than I ever recall seeing. If that's the case, then he's at the end of his rope, which means he's going to implode or finally accept doing things differently than he has. Let's hope it's the latter.

[RedAlice]

@Stranger. I hope you are right with what you saw at the end of the game on his face. I was so busy with my AZ family that I had trouble seeing the details.....an angry face on Fisher would make me happy. He always looks so damn just calm.

[Hacksaw]

Make changes as long as you know how to. Don't start trying to be something you aren't or you might just fail miserably.

[Stranger]

Make changes as long as you know how to. Don't start trying to be something you aren't or you might just fail miserably.

So, given this, how does Fisher change-out of our current condition? Is it possible?

[Rams the Legends live on]

Make changes as long as you know how to. Don't start trying to be something you aren't or you might just fail miserably.

Ya know as much as I harp on Fish, I am beginning to wonder if why he is having a hard time is because he changed. In his past successful teams he had O'Donnell and Collins as back ups behind McNair and Young. 2 veteran QB's who had more playing experience than the guy in front of them and both also had starter and playoff experience. Wycheck as his TE was the leading receiver for the Titans a number of years in a row.

Could the problem be with Fisher ball is he keeps going after youth so we seem to stay the youngest team in the league. Where in the past he was successful because he went after experience so they could understand his philosophy. In those past seasons he signed experience line play such as Fred Miller, superbowl experience such as Carter and O'Donnell and so forth. So could Fish be running into a wall because he has kept the same philosophy but changed his recipe?

Could he have turned last year into a winning year if he would have done his previous model and had more experience backing up Bradford. A guy with starter and playoff experience? Or would a QB as such do as poorly as Davis and Hill. Hill had experience 26 games worth as a starter but O'Donnell had 92 games of starter experience. In '99 McNair went down for 5 games and O'Donnell posted a 4-1 record in relief. If Fish had say a younger experienced player like a Davis or even a Hill does he still win those 4 games and make the playoffs? So I think ya might be on to something bro maybe the problem Fish is having right now is he has kept his philosophy but changed the recipe for it. An so the results are nowhere near what he expects.

So would a more experienced line do better than the youth we have now? The jury is still out on QB, but do Cook and Kendricks combined even come close to Wycheck? So could his problem be he has changed and is trying to fit a square peg in a round hole?

[Hacksaw]

Make changes as long as you know how to. Don't start trying to be something you aren't or you might just fail miserably.

So, given this, how does Fisher change-out of our current condition? Is it possible?

Hand over the reigns to a qualified OC and let him run the O with little input from Fish would seem the only way. Snead makes the right hire. If both things happen then there could be some improvement. Big IF though.

[Gareth]

Make changes as long as you know how to. Don't start trying to be something you aren't or you might just fail miserably.

Or keep banging your head against the wall trying unsuccessfully to do the same thing and you ARE failing miserably.

I don't want to hear from Fisher how he wants to run the ball. I want the Rams to be a winner but neither of us is getting our wish.

[Hacksaw]

Make changes as long as you know how to. Don't start trying to be something you aren't or you might just fail miserably.

Ya know as much as I harp on Fish, I am beginning to wonder if why he is having a hard time is because he changed. In his past successful teams he had O'Donnell and Collins as back ups behind McNair and Young. 2 veteran QB's who had more playing experience than the guy in front of them and both also had starter and playoff experience. Wycheck as his TE was the leading receiver for the Titans a number of years in a row.

Could the problem be with Fisher ball is he keeps going after youth so we seem to stay the youngest team in the league. Where in the past he was successful because he went after experience so they could understand his philosophy. In those past seasons he signed experience line play such as Fred Miller, superbowl experience such as Carter and O'Donnell and so forth. So could Fish be running into a wall because he has kept the same philosophy but changed his recipe?

Could he have turned last year into a winning year if he would have done his previous model and had more experience backing up Bradford. A guy with starter and playoff experience? Or would a QB as such do as poorly as Davis and Hill. Hill had experience 26 games worth as a starter but O'Donnell had 92 games of starter experience. In '99 McNair went down for 5 games and O'Donnell posted a 4-1 record in relief. If Fish had say a younger experienced player like a Davis or even a Hill does he still win those 4 games and make the playoffs? So I think ya might be on to something bro maybe the problem Fish is having right now is he has kept his philosophy but changed the recipe for it. An so the results are nowhere near what he expects.

So would a more experienced line do better than the youth we have now? The jury is still out on QB, but do Cook and Kendricks combined even come close to Wycheck? So could his problem be he has changed and is trying to fit a square peg in a round hole?

Most excellent. I believe the guy doe's know his X's and O's but his personnel don't make plays or fit like some of his prior vet teams, other than Austin on occasion.
Fish had been running with vet's especially on the o-line. That didn't works out. Probably due to the amount of accumulated ineptitude from prior regimes, or over the hill skilled players. But now, his young team has a very solid foundation. MLB is in need of depth / upgrade and our TE's need to be more like Wycheck. In all fairness to Fish, he tried with Cookie, just not sure what happened there.
Remember we are 1 up, 2 down but a win in AZ would put us in the temporary drivers seat in the division.

[Hacksaw]

Make changes as long as you know how to. Don't start trying to be something you aren't or you might just fail miserably.

Or keep banging your head against the wall trying unsuccessfully to do the same thing and you ARE failing miserably.

I don't want to hear from Fisher how he wants to run the ball. I want the Rams to be a winner but neither of us is getting our wish.

Gareth, i am by no means happy about the outlook for this squad. Let me rephrase, the recent performances by this team They've been stinking it up 2 games now. Obviously opponent coaches got the film on us after SEA and so far their planning has been effective. Time for the Rams to counter now already.
Football is a game of strategy execution and a bit of good fortune. Match ups are always fluid as rosters change and teams feel it more on certain weekends. That said, who was really comfortable with 3 runny nosed kids on the line starting game one with only Softfold as a veteran presence to lead them? It all starts up front and I have to believe this was the big mistake by the FO this year. Getting off the bargain veteran campaign and setting things in motion for the future. Damn disappointing.

[Gareth]

Make changes as long as you know how to. Don't start trying to be something you aren't or you might just fail miserably.

Or keep banging your head against the wall trying unsuccessfully to do the same thing and you ARE failing miserably.

I don't want to hear from Fisher how he wants to run the ball. I want the Rams to be a winner but neither of us is getting our wish.

Gareth, i am by no means happy about the outlook for this squad. Let me rephrase, the recent performances by this team They've been stinking it up 2 games now. Obviously opponent coaches got the film on us after SEA and so far their planning has been effective. Time for the Rams to counter now already.
Football is a game of strategy execution and a bit of good fortune. Match ups are always fluid as rosters change and teams feel it more on certain weekends. That said, who was really comfortable with 3 runny nosed kids on the line starting game one with only Softfold as a veteran presence to lead them? It all starts up front and I have to believe this was the big mistake by the FO this year. Getting off the bargain veteran campaign and setting things in motion for the future. Damn disappointing.

Hacksaw - first off, I really enjoy your posts and appreciate your huge contribution to this growing site. I share your enthusiasm on what we hope is the pending relocation.

I agree with what you said - "Football is a game of strategy, execution and a bit of good fortune". Fisher's Ram teams generally stink at strategy. His philosophy is to keep the game close and hope to win it at the end. That is a strategy for losers. My strategy, if I had any idea how to coach football, would be to try and score every time I had the ball until I had enough points that the game was sewn up.

His strategy is to run the ball. He can't run the ball. We've seen it for going on 4 years now. Maybe Gurley will change that. I hope so but I still don't believe in a run-first strategy in the NFL these days. This is not 1977.

In terms of execution - if a team consistently executes worse than the opposition, who do you blame? I blame the head coach.

Good fortune? Not sure what to say about that except that when you coach like Fisher does, you depend on good fortune more than you should. His style is to make it a coin flip at the end of the game and hope it goes your way. How about trying to build a great team that can endure some bad luck and win anyway?