[Hacksaw]

I'm with you, Hack. My very limited knowledge of big game (elephants, big cats, etc.) is that these animals are not killed for food but sport. Perhaps stuffed or their heads hung over fireplaces around the world. Most of these big game seem to be endangered to one extent or another, so killing them just makes their numbers smaller.

Hunting for something that you eat is completely different, provided you are not hunting an endangered species. I'm not a hunter, but I respect hunters as willing to go through the effort to catch their food.

I will say I respect hunters who put themselves in the food chain in order to hunt. As a spear fisherman, Hack, you are definitely in the shark habitat arena. Are you using a spear gun or the spear with the "rubber" strap that you "shoot" with just one arm?

I don't much respect people who shoot game from the back of their trucks. At least, get out and hike into the mountains where the cougars hang out.

I have a buddy who hunts with the traditional bow and arrow, not the bow with the pulleys and sites, just the basic bow.

The bow levels the playing field some. And I too appreciate the fact that hunters are in another creatures habitat where they are more adept than the hunter...

Yeah, sharks, I do tend to keep my eyes open for them, especially when I have my catch in the goodie bag or on the spear.
I use an 8 foot pole (Halibut) spear with double surgical tubing for thrust and a 5 tine spear head.

[Rams the Legends live on]

They will be legal hunts of endangered animals. Many endangered animals are kept in a conservation. So many a year need to die and be thinned so the species as a whole can survive and thrive.

The conservatory usually at a hefty price will sell x amount of license's to kill x amount of animals. We did the same when I was in my younger years for buffalo out here in Colorado.

The conservation animals will have received a death sentence already. The conservatory makes needed funding that goes back into the conservation. These hunts are legal and under law allowed by the individual governments.

His show will be showing these legal hunts that wildlife conversations have deemed that x amount of these endangered animals need to die off so the whole herd can grow and flourish.

While some may still find that distasteful they have found that they where either gonna have to euthanize them or they can sell overpriced licenses and help fund the survival of the individual species.

So while some may still find it distasteful he will not be airing anything that is illegal but legal in the individual countries as they have determined is in the best interest of the conservation of the individual endangered species.

[Hacksaw]

They will be legal hunts of endangered animals. Many endangered animals are kept in a conservation. So many a year need to die and be thinned so the species as a whole can survive and thrive.

So while some may still find it distasteful he will not be airing anything that is illegal but legal in the individual countries as they have determined is in the best interest of the conservation of the individual endangered species.

True this, but still man at the top of the intelligence food chain has changed the course of the river here. And how is an endangered species in need of being thinned out to survive. That sound odd.

Really this discussion isn't about the legality. More the morality. The debate of whether it's better to hunt for blood sport or simply to feed yourself or those who are hungry.

Like Tom was alluding to, the meat in our supermarkets was once a living thing, but it was killed for our food supply. However, how those animals are raised before slaughter is another subject all together.

[TomSlick]

They will be legal hunts of endangered animals. Many endangered animals are kept in a conservation. So many a year need to die and be thinned so the species as a whole can survive and thrive.

Appreciate the insight. Thanks, Legend.

[dieterbrock]

Really this discussion isn't about the legality. More the morality. The debate of whether it's better to hunt for blood sport or simply to feed yourself or those who are hungry.
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I dont think there is a debate about that, not one that I'm entered in at least.
I thought the topic is whether Kroenke shouldn't be involved in the sport channel

[Elvis]

I dont think there is a debate about that, not one that I'm entered in at least.
I thought the topic is whether Kroenke shouldn't be involved in the sport channel

I think it's more about whether he'll get flack for it in L.A. and i think he might...

[Rams the Legends live on]

True this, but still man at the top of the intelligence food chain has changed the course of the river here.

Really this discussion isn't about the legality. More the morality. The debate of whether it's better to hunt for blood sport or simply to feed yourself or those who are hungry.

Like Tom was alluding to, the meat in our supermarkets was once a living thing, but it was killed for our food supply. However, how those animals are raised before slaughter is another subject all together.

As far as morality that is for each to determine of his volition. Man as a species has only had one adaptable ability over the course of history that was using our mind so we could survive. So we invented long range weapons to better our chances. Sling, spear, bow and now gun.

Absent these we never had a chance and there would be no site like this because animals would have hunted us into extinction. I myself hunt, kill, clean and eat. I can't speak for every hunter but I do say I can understand the religion the hunt was for earlier native Americans.

The respect you have to pay for the environment and the prey. I do know for my friends and myself it is a experience one where ya bond as men. I can say I probably by hunting alone I experience more nature in a couple of days than most of the folks who will be outraged an on twitter ever will.

For any of us that do these primitive activities such as hunt and fish and the like I can't begin to explain the simplicity of the experience and how it sometimes just makes us see life and nature in a simpler setting and evokes respect for nature from us doing the activity.

As far as the morality again is for each to decide. I knowing the animals will be killed irregardless either by being euthanized or funding the conservatory and allowing the hunts.

The law has a long distinction of making morality calls. Murder is illegal and immoral, theft is illegal and immoral. Such is the history of legality and morality on more laws and subjects I care to expound on. In my opinion the morality and legality march in lock step here. They are gonna die irregardless. Is the needle a better outcome than the bullet? Don't both equal death?

I personally won't be watching his channel just is not my cup of tea. As far as the morality and legality here I find no distinction between the two, but as I will now echo that is for each to determine on their own.

Which I do believe the article was meant to stir emotions up and they left out key facts because the intended outrage of the puppet masters might not be as broad on the emotions if they would have reported the whole story instead of just saying they are killing endangered species and leaving the mind to see pictures from history of buffaloes piled feet high and rotting under the sun.

[Rams the Legends live on]

And how is an endangered species in need of being thinned out to survive. That sound odd.

So far as their survival. Since in these areas there is no natural predator they grow at numbers that their natural environment would not allow. So in cold climates they will die of starvation and the herd can even turn on it's own and hunt them or cast them aside to die. In the animal kingdom the weakest is always marked for death which means the next generation could be the choice by the herd to remain on the outside.

Which hampers the circle of life of the young becoming the old. In warm climates such as this ya have problems of raining seasons. So again the food supply will be in shortage and because they are kept and not in nature where predatory nature can keep this in balance. So again ya have problems with starvation and being a outcast of the herd which can effect the younger and weaker generation which will effect the circle of nature and it's balance.

So they can keep the balance at the same time make money to fund being able to ensure the numbers get back up so they can release them back into nature and have overall balance.

Usually on these type of hunts only the males can be hunted the females and younglings are off limits so they can keep the spark of life moving forward. Which they are also done under the watchful eye of some official to make sure that their rules are abided by.

[St. Loser Fan]

I think it's more about whether he'll get flack for it in L.A. and i think he might...

That was my thought. How will this play out in California versus a red state?

[Rams the Legends live on]

I dont think there is a debate about that, not one that I'm entered in at least.
I thought the topic is whether Kroenke shouldn't be involved in the sport channel

He already has the channel he just made it more global by pushing it into a new market. It has been here in the states for years now. We call it the Outdoor channel or something like that. This is just a new talking bite for those of opposing political views now.

Europe tends to be more left leaning in their dogma so this makes for good material to drive the emotions for those intended readers. It should play pretty good in LA as well since they are more in line with our European brother more so than interior states in our country.

However since he has already had the channel here in the states for years the fall out will probably be minimal once something else replaces this story on the head lines. So there may be some outrage for a spell but I think he will just weather it out because he is becoming a old hand at being the bad guy in print and just waiting it out and overall see profits go up.

I mean wasn't it around a year ago he was the bad guy for kicking people to the curb and making folks homeless when he bought the land.

Yet now that is a forgotten memory by most and this the new story line till time passes and something new can become the headline.

As Solomon said there is nothing new under the sun.