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 by actionjack
8 years 5 months ago
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United States of America   Sactown
Hall of Fame

Its a make or break off season and season for Gurley. Another year like last year and we start talking about him being a bust. Not at all impressed with what I saw from him last year.

 by Will0120
8 years 5 months ago
 Total posts:   1228  
 Joined:  Feb 05 2016
Canada   Vancouver, Canada
Commissioner

moklerman wrote:I can't give Kobe credit for his work ethic when he quit on the Lakers. He only played when he got his way, the team be damned. Screw him. Not to mention is off the court issues.

It's not like his work ethic actually improved other players. Most guys seemed not to want to play with him so what good was it really?


I think you are mistaking Lebron for Kobe and Cavaliers for Lakers. :roll:

"The Decision" Never forget. F* LBJ.

 by dieterbrock
8 years 5 months ago
 Total posts:   11512  
 Joined:  Mar 31 2015
United States of America   New Jersey
Hall of Fame

Melvin Gordon:
438 rushes, 1,638 yards (3.7 ypc) 10 TD
74 Rec 611 yards 2 TD
2248 total yards and 12 total td in 2 years
0 Rookie of year awards

Todd Gurley:
507 rushes, 1,991 yards (3.9 ypc) 16 TD
64 Rec 515 yards 0 TD
2506 total yards and 16 total td in 2 years
1 Rookie of year award

Neither killing it, but where does Gordon get off pissing in TG corn flakes? Imagine how TG would appreciate sharing a backfield with a QB who has thrown for 9000 yards and 62 TD in that time frame like MG has? I imagine those stacked boxes Gurley faces would not be nearly as prevelant

 by moklerman
8 years 5 months ago
 Total posts:   7680  
 Joined:  Apr 17 2015
United States of America   Bakersfield, CA
Hall of Fame

Will0120 wrote:
I think you are mistaking Lebron for Kobe and Cavaliers for Lakers. :roll:

"The Decision" Never forget. F* LBJ.
Kobe quit on the Lakers in the playoffs way back when. He simply wouldn't shoot the ball and was a big reason the Lakers lost that round. He couldn't co-exist with Shaq and just about everyone else after that. He was much more interested in the Lakers being "his" team than he was in winning. I never saw a change in that attitude.

 by moklerman
8 years 5 months ago
 Total posts:   7680  
 Joined:  Apr 17 2015
United States of America   Bakersfield, CA
Hall of Fame

dieterbrock wrote:Melvin Gordon:
438 rushes, 1,638 yards (3.7 ypc) 10 TD
74 Rec 611 yards 2 TD
2248 total yards and 12 total td in 2 years
0 Rookie of year awards

Todd Gurley:
507 rushes, 1,991 yards (3.9 ypc) 16 TD
64 Rec 515 yards 0 TD
2506 total yards and 16 total td in 2 years
1 Rookie of year award

Neither killing it, but where does Gordon get off pissing in TG corn flakes? Imagine how TG would appreciate sharing a backfield with a QB who has thrown for 9000 yards and 62 TD in that time frame like MG has? I imagine those stacked boxes Gurley faces would not be nearly as prevelant
I think it comes down to "what have you done lately?". Gurley had a great first 4 games an basically hasn't done anything since then. It's been over a year's worth of games since he's really done anything but he still gets the star RB label. I could see how Gordon might have an issue with that considering he's the one who put up 1,400 total yards and 12 TD's in 13 games more recently.

 by dieterbrock
8 years 5 months ago
 Total posts:   11512  
 Joined:  Mar 31 2015
United States of America   New Jersey
Hall of Fame

moklerman wrote:I think it comes down to "what have you done lately?". Gurley had a great first 4 games an basically hasn't done anything since then. It's been over a year's worth of games since he's really done anything but he still gets the star RB label. I could see how Gordon might have an issue with that considering he's the one who put up 1,400 total yards and 12 TD's in 13 games more recently.

I suppose, but he still had just an ok season with a 3.9 YPC and of course had a QB throwing for 4,300+ yards and 33 td's to take some pressure off

 by moklerman
8 years 5 months ago
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 Joined:  Apr 17 2015
United States of America   Bakersfield, CA
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dieterbrock wrote:I suppose, but he still had just an ok season with a 3.9 YPC and of course had a QB throwing for 4,300+ yards and 33 td's to take some pressure off
There's no doubt he's in a better situation and I agree that Gurley would have better numbers than he's had if he had the same situation. But he hasn't, so he didn't. You either put up the numbers or you don't.

Gordon didn't set the world on fire by any means but just between he and Gurley, I think the current bragging rights are pretty obvious.

 by dieterbrock
8 years 5 months ago
 Total posts:   11512  
 Joined:  Mar 31 2015
United States of America   New Jersey
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moklerman wrote:There's no doubt he's in a better situation and I agree that Gurley would have better numbers than he's had if he had the same situation. But he hasn't, so he didn't. You either put up the numbers or you don't.

Gordon didn't set the world on fire by any means but just between he and Gurley, I think the current bragging rights are pretty obvious.

I gotcha, and if the shoe was on the other foot we'd be supporting the comments.
And yeah, stirring up a little LA based controversy can be fun, its not like anyone would pay attention if he compared himself like a TJ Yeldon of Jacksonville

 by Will0120
8 years 5 months ago
 Total posts:   1228  
 Joined:  Feb 05 2016
Canada   Vancouver, Canada
Commissioner

moklerman wrote:Kobe quit on the Lakers in the playoffs way back when. He simply wouldn't shoot the ball and was a big reason the Lakers lost that round. He couldn't co-exist with Shaq and just about everyone else after that. He was much more interested in the Lakers being "his" team than he was in winning. I never saw a change in that attitude.


Just like how he didn't get along with Gasol, Odom, Fisher, etc. either right? Just to name a few of his other co-stars since the selfish Kobe couldn't co-exist with Shaq era. :roll:

 by moklerman
8 years 5 months ago
 Total posts:   7680  
 Joined:  Apr 17 2015
United States of America   Bakersfield, CA
Hall of Fame

Will0120 wrote:Just like how he didn't get along with Gasol, Odom, Fisher, etc. either right? Just to name a few of his other co-stars since the selfish Kobe couldn't co-exist with Shaq era. :roll:
If you want to argue that Kobe was a team player, much less a good mentor for a young player that's up to you. He had a ton of talent and I've never suggested otherwise. But fans and especially Lakers fans are delusional about him IMO.

They give him far too much credit and just gloss over all of his shortcomings. Most of which were not related to his ability to play basketball.

I don't think Gurley has made it to this stage of his career by not having a good enough work ethic but even if he needed to adjust his attitude after succumbing to the bright lights of Hollywood and advertising, Kobe isn't the one I'd suggest he be taught by. Kobe's sordid life and petulant attitude as a basketball player in no way make me think he would be good for Gurley.

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