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 by SoCalRam78
9 years 6 months ago
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United States of America   SoCal
Pro Bowl

Who cares? SK isn't fitting half the tab for that and not owning it, besides the market is junk anyway and the fans will barely show up this year.

 by Stranger
9 years 6 months ago
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 Joined:  Aug 12 2015
United States of America   Norcal
Superstar

It looks to be a great venue for the Jaguars.

 by moklerman
9 years 6 months ago
 Total posts:   7680  
 Joined:  Apr 17 2015
United States of America   Bakersfield, CA
Hall of Fame

Stranger wrote:It looks to be a great venue for the Jaguars.
You joke, but there are once again rumors of the Jags moving. I don't see why these things get started. Khan has put a lot of money into Jacksonville and nothing he's done, other than being from St. Louis, indicates the Jaguars would move.

Their current lease was designed to be escape proof and Jacksonville already draws many more fans that St. Louis and they've had plenty of losing of their own.

 by The Ripper
9 years 6 months ago
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United States of America   Naples, FL
Starter

St Louis would have to allow them to have a home game in London, just too much money for the team to give that up.

 by moklerman
9 years 6 months ago
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United States of America   Bakersfield, CA
Hall of Fame

I suppose that might be okay in some areas but aren't most stadiums keenly aware of the negative aspects of drinking? Having a drunken area doesn't seem like an idea the NFL would sign off on.

 by dieterbrock
9 years 6 months ago
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United States of America   New Jersey
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moklerman wrote:
Stranger wrote:It looks to be a great venue for the Jaguars.
You joke, but there are once again rumors of the Jags moving. I don't see why these things get started. Khan has put a lot of money into Jacksonville and nothing he's done, other than being from St. Louis, indicates the Jaguars would move.

Their current lease was designed to be escape proof and Jacksonville already draws many more fans that St. Louis and they've had plenty of losing of their own.

You know, I liken the rumors of Khan moving the team to St Louis to a few years back when LA guys like yourself were posting articles about how the Rams could move back to LA. There were times that it seemed far fetched it could happen, and yet here we are

 by moklerman
9 years 6 months ago
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United States of America   Bakersfield, CA
Hall of Fame

dieterbrock wrote:
moklerman wrote:
Stranger wrote:It looks to be a great venue for the Jaguars.
You joke, but there are once again rumors of the Jags moving. I don't see why these things get started. Khan has put a lot of money into Jacksonville and nothing he's done, other than being from St. Louis, indicates the Jaguars would move.

Their current lease was designed to be escape proof and Jacksonville already draws many more fans that St. Louis and they've had plenty of losing of their own.

You know, I liken the rumors of Khan moving the team to St Louis to a few years back when LA guys like yourself were posting articles about how the Rams could move back to LA. There were times that it seemed far fetched it could happen, and yet here we are
In general terms I can see that but knowing the particulars, I don't think the situations are equitable.

Khan doesn't have a built-in "out" in his lease for example. That's a big difference. Khan hasn't been vague or ambiguous with his statements about the Jaguars in Jacksonville(that I recall), which is the opposite of what Kroenke did. The Jaguars aren't suffering in attendance like the Rams have been.

Similar situations perhaps, but not really the same.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all about balance in the universe so I think it would be a form of poetic justice if St. Louis got the "Stallions" team that they always deserved. I just don't see it actually happening.

 by dieterbrock
9 years 6 months ago
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United States of America   New Jersey
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moklerman wrote:.
Khan hasn't been vague or ambiguous with his statements about the Jaguars in Jacksonville(that I recall), which is the opposite of what Kroenke did. .


From ESPN Article in 2010
Kroenke's purchase of the team would appear to make the Rams less likely to move.

"I've been around St. Louis and Missouri a major portion of my life," he said. "I've never had any desire to lead the charge out of St. Louis. That's not why we're here. We're here to work very hard and be successful in St. Louis."


Times change, people change.

Like I said, I'm pretty impartial to the LA vs St Louis deal, I've never been to a home game in either city. And over the years an article would pop up about a potential move back to LA, (even before the lease issue), and it would get met with staunch criticism. Despite that, it opened my impartial eye to the possibilty that it could happen. I see the same potential with Khan. Right now, everything looks fine in Jacksonville, because there's another team calling St Louis home. But when the suggestions are made that the Jags could move, it opens my eyes just like it did way back with LA

 by Rams the Legends live on
9 years 6 months ago
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United States of America   Colorado Springs
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dieterbrock wrote:
From ESPN Article in 2010
Kroenke's purchase of the team would appear to make the Rams less likely to move.

"I've been around St. Louis and Missouri a major portion of my life," he said. "I've never had any desire to lead the charge out of St. Louis. That's not why we're here. We're here to work very hard and be successful in St. Louis."


Times change, people change.

Like I said, I'm pretty impartial to the LA vs St Louis deal, I've never been to a home game in either city. And over the years an article would pop up about a potential move back to LA, (even before the lease issue), and it would get met with staunch criticism. Despite that, it opened my impartial eye to the possibilty that it could happen. I see the same potential with Khan. Right now, everything looks fine in Jacksonville, because there's another team calling St Louis home. But when the suggestions are made that the Jags could move, it opens my eyes just like it did way back with LA


True enough but I think if they would listened to what else he said they would have jumped on a stadium immediately as he also said in the same interview.

"I don't think it's a mystery the way we're running our other clubs. Connect the dots," "Now, the realistic part of that. I live to be competitive. To be competitive, you have to have revenue. We're going to work really hard to have a model that produces revenue where we can be consistently competitive. Anyone can be a contender in the pro sports business every so often. The real challenge is to be competitive every year."

I would think for a man who don't speak often when he does they might wanna listen. He clearly let them know look at the model I use with my other teams and mentioned revenue. If they would have looked like he said and indeed listened they would not be working on having a task force build a stadium for perhaps some future team. No instead the news out of StL would be about Kroenke gonna break ground on his own stadium perhaps along the waterfront.

 by moklerman
9 years 6 months ago
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United States of America   Bakersfield, CA
Hall of Fame

Still seems to me his statements at the time were intentionally ambiguous. His "intention" wasn't to lead the charge out of St. Louis but that's far different than "the Rams will remain in St. Louis".

His statements were carefully chosen IMO and in retrospect, for good reason.

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