[bubbaramfan]

I've been listening to Fred Rogin since he came on at noon, and he's claiming he has inside sources that were IN the meeting. His sources say that if a vote were taken today, Kroenke would have enough to approve a move to LA. Not even close. Only two or three owners not in agreement, (and we can guess who two of them are), the other is on the fence. The main reason Kroenke has so much support? His money. Rogin's soruce tells him the owmers discussed Carson and because Spanos and Davis would be in deep debt if they approved Carson, they moved on to Kroenke's proposal quickly.

Is anyone surprised that they were most concerned about money?

[willasdad]

I've been listening to Fred Rogin since he came on at noon, and he's claiming he has inside sources that were IN the meeting. His sources say that if a vote were taken today, Kroenke would have enough to approve a move to LA. Not even close. Only two or three owners not in agreement, (and we can guess who two of them are), the other is on the fence. The main reason Kroenke has so much support? His money. Rogin's soruce tells him the owmers discussed Carson and because Spanos and Davis would be in deep debt if they approved Carson, they moved on to Kroenke's proposal quickly.

Is anyone surprised that they were most concerned about money?

I wouldn't be surprised if his source was actually Grubman. They seemed to be pretty close from the interview I heard yesterday with Roggin. Since he seems to be in LA a good amount of time, that's who I'd look at.

[Elvis]

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Jerry Jones likes Inglewood; Carson in trouble

By Nick Canepa | 4:01 p.m. Aug. 14, 2015

So none other than America’s owner, Jerry Jones, has stepped to the billion-dollar window to put his and others’ money down on the race to Los Angeles, where he doesn’t just want a win -- but a dollar-making stud horse.

Jones, who owns the Dallas Cowboys, didn’t have to speak last Tuesday when the NFL owners met and conversed on the ongoing L.A. stadium situation. But he did, and in so doing sounded very much like a man who prefers St. Louis Rams owner Stan Kroenke’s venture in Inglewood to the Chargers-Raiders Carson proposal.

Billionaire leading the billionaire.

But it’s important, perhaps very important to San Diego -- or San Diegans who prefer their football team stay put, no matter how poorly/unfairly they’ve been treated over the past eight months.

Now that Commissioner Roger Goodell and Patriots boss Bob Kraft have filed divorce papers, Jones arguably is The League’s most influential owner, if he wasn’t before Deflategate. In any event, he has power, and although the bosses admire Chargers owner Dean Spanos -- Deano, hardly the rebel, always has been one to play nice -- Jerry never has been afraid to use it.

Spanos hardly is a pauper, but among these wealthy princes -- especially Kroenke, married to Sam Walton’s daughter, the richest of them all (estimated at $12.5 billion) -- he doesn’t have what his fellow owners want -- enough dough to fatten their greedy pie.

It’s going to take a lot of money to move to Los Angeles, even more when you throw in relocation fees, which could be mammoth. And Kroenke swims in Money Lake. Jones is fairly transparent. He doesn’t want to screw around with some haphazard L.A. venture -- involving the useless Raiders, no less -- this time around.

I’m gathering one thing from this meeting near Chicago. The Carson project is on life support, if not dead, despite what Chargers hired L.A. gun/blowhard Carmen Policy says. Kroenke already has spent many millions on his Hollywood Park site, and stadium construction already may have begun.

It’s laughable 24 of the 32 owners must approve franchise shifts. If Kroenke wants to move, he will move, and he’s going to, despite the noble efforts in St. Louis to build him a new facility.

The late maverick Al Davis, who had nowhere near Kroenke’s wherewithal, won that battle in court long ago when he pulled the Raiders out of Oakland into L.A. If Stan defies his brethren and goes, maybe the NFL can threaten him with Inglewood getting no Super Bowls. I don’t know that he cares, and I doubt they’ll try to block him anyway. The owners are tired of dishing out mega-millions to law firms. And Kroenke already has Davis’ in-court victory for precedent.

A big problem is that Spanos & Co. have hooked their wagon to a three-legged mule, the Raiders. Mark Davis, son of Al, has seemed indifferent about the Carson situation. Do you ever see a Raider there? It’s still hard to imagine the Chargers wanting to team up with this guy, Goldman Sachs or no Goldman Sachs.

The Chargers don’t want another team in L.A., because 25-to-30 percent of their business comes from that area, so they say, although it’s never been documented (and the NFL knows the Spanoses don’t own rights to L.A.).

One thing’s absolutely certain: There will not be three teams up there.

And the Rams are going to be one, and if so, Carson is dead, mired in its toxic waste dump. The Chargers can’t go it alone. And if they were to get in bed with Kroenke, they would send “hypocritical” to new heights, because I’m 100 percent sure they don’t like the Inglewood site (not exactly Beverly Hills and with no freeway access).

And they know two things: a) dealing with tight-fisted landlord Kroenke won’t be a day at Universal Studios, and b) they eternally will play second fiddle in Stan’s orchestra.

Carson won’t fly if the Rams move and probably won’t, anyway. What I can see is the Chargers being here in 2016 -- I can envision no team in L.A. in 2016 (Giants owner Steve Tisch told the L.A. Times’ Sam Farmer he puts the chances just above 50-50, which means weak) -- and getting back to work with the city on getting something done, which should include getting more money from the NFL for construction.

Eric Grubman, The League’s L.A. point man, says the Chargers are negotiating with the city by doing nothing.

Bah. It’s insulting. It’s amateurish. Man up and admit it. Carson isn’t going to work.

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