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 by aeneas1
8 years 9 months ago
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United States of America   Norcal
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max wrote:Guess you guys aren't buying my explanation as possible.

fish is often accused of playing not to lose, for good reason, but your explanation would really take the cake imo... the rams had a chance to go up by 2 tds and didn't take it, just a complete brain fart imo, in fact i would argue that there's a much bigger risk at a 2-point return going for 2, regardless of the call, than kicking the 1-pointer.

 by max
8 years 9 months ago
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United States of America   Sarasota, FL
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aeneas1 wrote:fish is often accused of playing not to lose, for good reason, but your explanation would really take the cake imo... the rams had a chance to go up by 2 tds and didn't take it, just a complete brain fart imo, in fact i would argue that there's a much bigger risk at a 2-point return going for 2, regardless of the call, than kicking the 1-pointer.


If they threw the ball then I'd agree with you. But don't think so on a QB SNEAK.

But agree that it was not best move. Hey he got away with it. Next game.

 by aeneas1
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max wrote:If they threw the ball then I'd agree with you. But don't think so on a QB SNEAK.

But agree that it was not best move. Hey he got away with it. Next game.

i hear what you're saying and you could very well be right, i just think anything short of qb knee is a greater risk than an extra point kick...

 by max
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aeneas1 wrote:i hear what you're saying and you could very well be right, i just think anything short of qb knee is a greater risk than an extra point kick...


Could be, but there is no other even remotely logical reason not to kick the XP.

It'll be curious to hear Fishers explanation. I think it's mine or he'll admit brain lock.

 by Gareth
8 years 9 months ago
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United States of America   LA Coliseum
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It was a ridiculous choice and I was furious at the time.

The best explanation might be that having a 13 point lead was better than 12 because their kicker has struggled and already had missed a PAT.

I'm sure not buying it though. Just plain dumb and could have really cost them had TB made their 2 pointer that followed.

 by ramsfan1977
8 years 9 months ago
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United States of America   New Jersey
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Tampa Tribune:

http://www.tampabay.com/sports/football ... ms/2295204

Up 37-26 with 4:38 to play, the Rams failed on a two-point conversion. There's no obvious reason why a team would not kick the point after for a 12-point lead, in which case a touchdown and field goal cannot tie the score.

 by dieterbrock
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United States of America   New Jersey
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I've tried to play the devil's advocate role here and cant come up with a plausible explanation...

 by snackdaddy
8 years 9 months ago
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United States of America   Merced California
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I think we're over thinking this. He's not used to that much offense so he got cocky and thought they could make it. All those points made him delirious.

 by max
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United States of America   Sarasota, FL
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Here's the problem with all this.

The old college chart says up 11 you go for 1.

These guys have a chart that tells them exactly what to do based on score and time. Fisher would have to knowingly deviate from that. Why?

 by Hacksaw
8 years 9 months ago
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United States of America   AT THE BEACH
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max wrote:Guess you guys aren't buying my explanation as possible.


9 points is still a 2 score lead. No explanation makes sense.

If GZ didn't have a problem at the moment, my thought or excuse for Fish is that he saw a weakness in TB's defense that he thought the Rams could exploit and subsequently demoralize the Buc's by getting the 2. :roll:

13 points gives you a better shot at a tie so it's probably as simple as that. 11 or 12 is a loss if all other things remained the same. Kind of overthinking it and not showing a lot of confidence in the D though.

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