by aeneas1 8 years 10 months ago Total posts: 16894 Joined: Sep 13 2015 Norcal Hall of Fame Re: HOK Sport still billing St. Louis for stadium that will never be built POST #11 seems a bit overt to be a sinister money grab, i mean there's such a thing as back-dating invoices if you're intent is to steal.... by Hacksaw 8 years 10 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: HOK Sport still billing St. Louis for stadium that will never be built POST #12 Obviously something hasn't gone well in StL regarding pro football. 3 teams / 1 city ??? common denominator? Yeah, I'm with A-1,, these vendors, consultants, supplier guys must have had balances on the books. Maybe some entity wants to complete the stadium permit-ability? It may have been close. If the funds being invoiced are for completion of a pkg which could be sold now or later, perhaps it's a good thing. OK that's a stretch.. They are paying for the Dome lease and these potentially frivolous expenses for what though? That sucks. Who wrote that deal? GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by St. Loser Fan 8 years 10 months ago Total posts: 10889 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Re: HOK Sport still billing St. Louis for stadium that will never be built POST #13 TOPIC AUTHOR Hacksaw wrote:Obviously something hasn't gone well in StL regarding pro football. 3 teams / 1 city ??? common denominator? -All us idiots that live in St. Louis. -No local ownership. by Rams the Legends live on 8 years 10 months ago Total posts: 1990 Joined: Aug 26 2015 Colorado Springs Pro Bowl Re: HOK Sport still billing St. Louis for stadium that will never be built POST #14 I have to admit the being billed for work done prior makes sense and was my initial thought. Then I read in the article were it said thusly............But more than $240,000 was billed to the St. Louis Regional Convention and Sports Complex Authority for work done between March 1 and 31, two months after the plan had seemingly been shelved..............So looks like from what print is saying is this current bill is for work provided during the month of March which is in fact two months after the move was approved. So to bad no one is willing to be interviewed so far as I am curious to hear a reason or explanation. by Hacksaw 8 years 10 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: HOK Sport still billing St. Louis for stadium that will never be built POST #15 St. Loser Fan wrote:Hacksaw wrote:Obviously something hasn't gone well in StL regarding pro football. 3 teams / 1 city ??? common denominator? -No local ownership.Kroenke was a local. It's bigger than that and not about the citizens. imo GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by St. Loser Fan 8 years 10 months ago Total posts: 10889 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Re: HOK Sport still billing St. Louis for stadium that will never be built POST #16 TOPIC AUTHOR Hacksaw wrote:St. Loser Fan wrote:Hacksaw wrote:Obviously something hasn't gone well in StL regarding pro football. 3 teams / 1 city ??? common denominator? -No local ownership.Kroenke was a local. It's bigger than that and not about the citizens. imoKroenke had little conection to St. Louis except for owning the Rams and about 1/3rd of the strip shopping malls in town. He didn't even have a residence in St. Louis. http://www.forbes.com/sites/morganbrennan/2013/11/27/billionaire-sports-mogul-stan-kroenkes-many-spreads/#5b5e74607c35Supposedly he owned a penthouse in downtown Clayton, but it was never built out and eventually bought by one of the Blues players who then had the place finished to something livable. If he came to St. Louis to see a game or hit the former offices in Earth City, he'd always fly back to his main home in Columbia MO which is 125 miles away.If Stan Kroenke was a St. Louis local, then Dean Spanos is a Los Angeles local. by St. Loser Fan 8 years 10 months ago Total posts: 10889 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Re: HOK Sport still billing St. Louis for stadium that will never be built POST #17 TOPIC AUTHOR Ray Hartman once again reminds everyone in St. Louis how messed up we are.https://www.stlmag.com/news/think-again/lessons-of-the-lost-stadium/ by Hacksaw 8 years 10 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: HOK Sport still billing St. Louis for stadium that will never be built POST #18 St. Loser Fan wrote:Hacksaw wrote:St. Loser Fan wrote: -No local ownership.Kroenke was a local. It's bigger than that and not about the citizens. imoKroenke had little conection to St. Louis except for owning the Rams and about 1/3rd of the strip shopping malls in town. He didn't even have a residence in St. Louis. http://www.forbes.com/sites/morganbrennan/2013/11/27/billionaire-sports-mogul-stan-kroenkes-many-spreads/#5b5e74607c35Supposedly he owned a penthouse in downtown Clayton, but it was never built out and eventually bought by one of the Blues players who then had the place finished to something livable. If he came to St. Louis to see a game or hit the former offices in Earth City, he'd always fly back to his main home in Columbia MO which is 125 miles away.If Stan Kroenke was a St. Louis local, then Dean Spanos is a Los Angeles local.I just remember him being a StL advocate. He helped secure the Rams from LA. A Missouri guy named after famous StL ball players. Business headquarters somewhere around there. How many StL natives told us LA guys we wee crazy to think he would turn against his own and take the Rams to Cali.. You may be right that he doesn't really identify himself as a St Louisan, at least not any more,, but I don't identify him as a Californian... or Denverite either. Enos Stanley has a StL ring to it. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by St. Loser Fan 8 years 10 months ago Total posts: 10889 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Re: HOK Sport still billing St. Louis for stadium that will never be built POST #19 TOPIC AUTHOR Hacksaw wrote:I just remember him being a StL advocate. He helped secure the Rams from LA. A Missouri guy named after famous StL ball players. Business headquarters somewhere around there. All fair points but still not enough to ever call him a St. Louis local. Not when he helped Georgia move the Rams, when he bought the team fully or when me moved them back to LA.Hacksaw wrote:How many StL natives told us LA guys we were crazy to think he would turn against his own and take the Rams to Cali.. Our stupidity and your superiority has already been established.Hacksaw wrote:You may be right that he doesn't really identify himself as a St Louisan, at least not any more,, but I don't identify him as a Californian... or Denverite either. Enos Stanley has a StL ring to it.Like a lot of billionaires he's a rolling stone, a resident of the world and no one place in particular. Though there are claims his Malibu mansion has been his favorite home (out of his many) for a long while. by Hacksaw 8 years 10 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: HOK Sport still billing St. Louis for stadium that will never be built POST #20 I guess. Can't blame him either,,, Malibu is NICE.I'd say that rolling stone is about to embed himself into SoCal from here on. GO RAMS. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS Reply 2 / 3 1 2 3 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 21 posts Jul 06 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by Hacksaw 8 years 10 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: HOK Sport still billing St. Louis for stadium that will never be built POST #12 Obviously something hasn't gone well in StL regarding pro football. 3 teams / 1 city ??? common denominator? Yeah, I'm with A-1,, these vendors, consultants, supplier guys must have had balances on the books. Maybe some entity wants to complete the stadium permit-ability? It may have been close. If the funds being invoiced are for completion of a pkg which could be sold now or later, perhaps it's a good thing. OK that's a stretch.. They are paying for the Dome lease and these potentially frivolous expenses for what though? That sucks. Who wrote that deal? GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by St. Loser Fan 8 years 10 months ago Total posts: 10889 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Re: HOK Sport still billing St. Louis for stadium that will never be built POST #13 TOPIC AUTHOR Hacksaw wrote:Obviously something hasn't gone well in StL regarding pro football. 3 teams / 1 city ??? common denominator? -All us idiots that live in St. Louis. -No local ownership. by Rams the Legends live on 8 years 10 months ago Total posts: 1990 Joined: Aug 26 2015 Colorado Springs Pro Bowl Re: HOK Sport still billing St. Louis for stadium that will never be built POST #14 I have to admit the being billed for work done prior makes sense and was my initial thought. Then I read in the article were it said thusly............But more than $240,000 was billed to the St. Louis Regional Convention and Sports Complex Authority for work done between March 1 and 31, two months after the plan had seemingly been shelved..............So looks like from what print is saying is this current bill is for work provided during the month of March which is in fact two months after the move was approved. So to bad no one is willing to be interviewed so far as I am curious to hear a reason or explanation. by Hacksaw 8 years 10 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: HOK Sport still billing St. Louis for stadium that will never be built POST #15 St. Loser Fan wrote:Hacksaw wrote:Obviously something hasn't gone well in StL regarding pro football. 3 teams / 1 city ??? common denominator? -No local ownership.Kroenke was a local. It's bigger than that and not about the citizens. imo GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by St. Loser Fan 8 years 10 months ago Total posts: 10889 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Re: HOK Sport still billing St. Louis for stadium that will never be built POST #16 TOPIC AUTHOR Hacksaw wrote:St. Loser Fan wrote:Hacksaw wrote:Obviously something hasn't gone well in StL regarding pro football. 3 teams / 1 city ??? common denominator? -No local ownership.Kroenke was a local. It's bigger than that and not about the citizens. imoKroenke had little conection to St. Louis except for owning the Rams and about 1/3rd of the strip shopping malls in town. He didn't even have a residence in St. Louis. http://www.forbes.com/sites/morganbrennan/2013/11/27/billionaire-sports-mogul-stan-kroenkes-many-spreads/#5b5e74607c35Supposedly he owned a penthouse in downtown Clayton, but it was never built out and eventually bought by one of the Blues players who then had the place finished to something livable. If he came to St. Louis to see a game or hit the former offices in Earth City, he'd always fly back to his main home in Columbia MO which is 125 miles away.If Stan Kroenke was a St. Louis local, then Dean Spanos is a Los Angeles local. by St. Loser Fan 8 years 10 months ago Total posts: 10889 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Re: HOK Sport still billing St. Louis for stadium that will never be built POST #17 TOPIC AUTHOR Ray Hartman once again reminds everyone in St. Louis how messed up we are.https://www.stlmag.com/news/think-again/lessons-of-the-lost-stadium/ by Hacksaw 8 years 10 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: HOK Sport still billing St. Louis for stadium that will never be built POST #18 St. Loser Fan wrote:Hacksaw wrote:St. Loser Fan wrote: -No local ownership.Kroenke was a local. It's bigger than that and not about the citizens. imoKroenke had little conection to St. Louis except for owning the Rams and about 1/3rd of the strip shopping malls in town. He didn't even have a residence in St. Louis. http://www.forbes.com/sites/morganbrennan/2013/11/27/billionaire-sports-mogul-stan-kroenkes-many-spreads/#5b5e74607c35Supposedly he owned a penthouse in downtown Clayton, but it was never built out and eventually bought by one of the Blues players who then had the place finished to something livable. If he came to St. Louis to see a game or hit the former offices in Earth City, he'd always fly back to his main home in Columbia MO which is 125 miles away.If Stan Kroenke was a St. Louis local, then Dean Spanos is a Los Angeles local.I just remember him being a StL advocate. He helped secure the Rams from LA. A Missouri guy named after famous StL ball players. Business headquarters somewhere around there. How many StL natives told us LA guys we wee crazy to think he would turn against his own and take the Rams to Cali.. You may be right that he doesn't really identify himself as a St Louisan, at least not any more,, but I don't identify him as a Californian... or Denverite either. Enos Stanley has a StL ring to it. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by St. Loser Fan 8 years 10 months ago Total posts: 10889 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Re: HOK Sport still billing St. Louis for stadium that will never be built POST #19 TOPIC AUTHOR Hacksaw wrote:I just remember him being a StL advocate. He helped secure the Rams from LA. A Missouri guy named after famous StL ball players. Business headquarters somewhere around there. All fair points but still not enough to ever call him a St. Louis local. Not when he helped Georgia move the Rams, when he bought the team fully or when me moved them back to LA.Hacksaw wrote:How many StL natives told us LA guys we were crazy to think he would turn against his own and take the Rams to Cali.. Our stupidity and your superiority has already been established.Hacksaw wrote:You may be right that he doesn't really identify himself as a St Louisan, at least not any more,, but I don't identify him as a Californian... or Denverite either. Enos Stanley has a StL ring to it.Like a lot of billionaires he's a rolling stone, a resident of the world and no one place in particular. Though there are claims his Malibu mansion has been his favorite home (out of his many) for a long while. by Hacksaw 8 years 10 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: HOK Sport still billing St. Louis for stadium that will never be built POST #20 I guess. Can't blame him either,,, Malibu is NICE.I'd say that rolling stone is about to embed himself into SoCal from here on. GO RAMS. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS Reply 2 / 3 1 2 3 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 21 posts Jul 06 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by St. Loser Fan 8 years 10 months ago Total posts: 10889 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Re: HOK Sport still billing St. Louis for stadium that will never be built POST #13 TOPIC AUTHOR Hacksaw wrote:Obviously something hasn't gone well in StL regarding pro football. 3 teams / 1 city ??? common denominator? -All us idiots that live in St. Louis. -No local ownership. by Rams the Legends live on 8 years 10 months ago Total posts: 1990 Joined: Aug 26 2015 Colorado Springs Pro Bowl Re: HOK Sport still billing St. Louis for stadium that will never be built POST #14 I have to admit the being billed for work done prior makes sense and was my initial thought. Then I read in the article were it said thusly............But more than $240,000 was billed to the St. Louis Regional Convention and Sports Complex Authority for work done between March 1 and 31, two months after the plan had seemingly been shelved..............So looks like from what print is saying is this current bill is for work provided during the month of March which is in fact two months after the move was approved. So to bad no one is willing to be interviewed so far as I am curious to hear a reason or explanation. by Hacksaw 8 years 10 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: HOK Sport still billing St. Louis for stadium that will never be built POST #15 St. Loser Fan wrote:Hacksaw wrote:Obviously something hasn't gone well in StL regarding pro football. 3 teams / 1 city ??? common denominator? -No local ownership.Kroenke was a local. It's bigger than that and not about the citizens. imo GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by St. Loser Fan 8 years 10 months ago Total posts: 10889 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Re: HOK Sport still billing St. Louis for stadium that will never be built POST #16 TOPIC AUTHOR Hacksaw wrote:St. Loser Fan wrote:Hacksaw wrote:Obviously something hasn't gone well in StL regarding pro football. 3 teams / 1 city ??? common denominator? -No local ownership.Kroenke was a local. It's bigger than that and not about the citizens. imoKroenke had little conection to St. Louis except for owning the Rams and about 1/3rd of the strip shopping malls in town. He didn't even have a residence in St. Louis. http://www.forbes.com/sites/morganbrennan/2013/11/27/billionaire-sports-mogul-stan-kroenkes-many-spreads/#5b5e74607c35Supposedly he owned a penthouse in downtown Clayton, but it was never built out and eventually bought by one of the Blues players who then had the place finished to something livable. If he came to St. Louis to see a game or hit the former offices in Earth City, he'd always fly back to his main home in Columbia MO which is 125 miles away.If Stan Kroenke was a St. Louis local, then Dean Spanos is a Los Angeles local. by St. Loser Fan 8 years 10 months ago Total posts: 10889 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Re: HOK Sport still billing St. Louis for stadium that will never be built POST #17 TOPIC AUTHOR Ray Hartman once again reminds everyone in St. Louis how messed up we are.https://www.stlmag.com/news/think-again/lessons-of-the-lost-stadium/ by Hacksaw 8 years 10 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: HOK Sport still billing St. Louis for stadium that will never be built POST #18 St. Loser Fan wrote:Hacksaw wrote:St. Loser Fan wrote: -No local ownership.Kroenke was a local. It's bigger than that and not about the citizens. imoKroenke had little conection to St. Louis except for owning the Rams and about 1/3rd of the strip shopping malls in town. He didn't even have a residence in St. Louis. http://www.forbes.com/sites/morganbrennan/2013/11/27/billionaire-sports-mogul-stan-kroenkes-many-spreads/#5b5e74607c35Supposedly he owned a penthouse in downtown Clayton, but it was never built out and eventually bought by one of the Blues players who then had the place finished to something livable. If he came to St. Louis to see a game or hit the former offices in Earth City, he'd always fly back to his main home in Columbia MO which is 125 miles away.If Stan Kroenke was a St. Louis local, then Dean Spanos is a Los Angeles local.I just remember him being a StL advocate. He helped secure the Rams from LA. A Missouri guy named after famous StL ball players. Business headquarters somewhere around there. How many StL natives told us LA guys we wee crazy to think he would turn against his own and take the Rams to Cali.. You may be right that he doesn't really identify himself as a St Louisan, at least not any more,, but I don't identify him as a Californian... or Denverite either. Enos Stanley has a StL ring to it. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by St. Loser Fan 8 years 10 months ago Total posts: 10889 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Re: HOK Sport still billing St. Louis for stadium that will never be built POST #19 TOPIC AUTHOR Hacksaw wrote:I just remember him being a StL advocate. He helped secure the Rams from LA. A Missouri guy named after famous StL ball players. Business headquarters somewhere around there. All fair points but still not enough to ever call him a St. Louis local. Not when he helped Georgia move the Rams, when he bought the team fully or when me moved them back to LA.Hacksaw wrote:How many StL natives told us LA guys we were crazy to think he would turn against his own and take the Rams to Cali.. Our stupidity and your superiority has already been established.Hacksaw wrote:You may be right that he doesn't really identify himself as a St Louisan, at least not any more,, but I don't identify him as a Californian... or Denverite either. Enos Stanley has a StL ring to it.Like a lot of billionaires he's a rolling stone, a resident of the world and no one place in particular. Though there are claims his Malibu mansion has been his favorite home (out of his many) for a long while. by Hacksaw 8 years 10 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: HOK Sport still billing St. Louis for stadium that will never be built POST #20 I guess. Can't blame him either,,, Malibu is NICE.I'd say that rolling stone is about to embed himself into SoCal from here on. GO RAMS. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS Reply 2 / 3 1 2 3 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 21 posts Jul 06 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by Rams the Legends live on 8 years 10 months ago Total posts: 1990 Joined: Aug 26 2015 Colorado Springs Pro Bowl Re: HOK Sport still billing St. Louis for stadium that will never be built POST #14 I have to admit the being billed for work done prior makes sense and was my initial thought. Then I read in the article were it said thusly............But more than $240,000 was billed to the St. Louis Regional Convention and Sports Complex Authority for work done between March 1 and 31, two months after the plan had seemingly been shelved..............So looks like from what print is saying is this current bill is for work provided during the month of March which is in fact two months after the move was approved. So to bad no one is willing to be interviewed so far as I am curious to hear a reason or explanation. by Hacksaw 8 years 10 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: HOK Sport still billing St. Louis for stadium that will never be built POST #15 St. Loser Fan wrote:Hacksaw wrote:Obviously something hasn't gone well in StL regarding pro football. 3 teams / 1 city ??? common denominator? -No local ownership.Kroenke was a local. It's bigger than that and not about the citizens. imo GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by St. Loser Fan 8 years 10 months ago Total posts: 10889 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Re: HOK Sport still billing St. Louis for stadium that will never be built POST #16 TOPIC AUTHOR Hacksaw wrote:St. Loser Fan wrote:Hacksaw wrote:Obviously something hasn't gone well in StL regarding pro football. 3 teams / 1 city ??? common denominator? -No local ownership.Kroenke was a local. It's bigger than that and not about the citizens. imoKroenke had little conection to St. Louis except for owning the Rams and about 1/3rd of the strip shopping malls in town. He didn't even have a residence in St. Louis. http://www.forbes.com/sites/morganbrennan/2013/11/27/billionaire-sports-mogul-stan-kroenkes-many-spreads/#5b5e74607c35Supposedly he owned a penthouse in downtown Clayton, but it was never built out and eventually bought by one of the Blues players who then had the place finished to something livable. If he came to St. Louis to see a game or hit the former offices in Earth City, he'd always fly back to his main home in Columbia MO which is 125 miles away.If Stan Kroenke was a St. Louis local, then Dean Spanos is a Los Angeles local. by St. Loser Fan 8 years 10 months ago Total posts: 10889 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Re: HOK Sport still billing St. Louis for stadium that will never be built POST #17 TOPIC AUTHOR Ray Hartman once again reminds everyone in St. Louis how messed up we are.https://www.stlmag.com/news/think-again/lessons-of-the-lost-stadium/ by Hacksaw 8 years 10 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: HOK Sport still billing St. Louis for stadium that will never be built POST #18 St. Loser Fan wrote:Hacksaw wrote:St. Loser Fan wrote: -No local ownership.Kroenke was a local. It's bigger than that and not about the citizens. imoKroenke had little conection to St. Louis except for owning the Rams and about 1/3rd of the strip shopping malls in town. He didn't even have a residence in St. Louis. http://www.forbes.com/sites/morganbrennan/2013/11/27/billionaire-sports-mogul-stan-kroenkes-many-spreads/#5b5e74607c35Supposedly he owned a penthouse in downtown Clayton, but it was never built out and eventually bought by one of the Blues players who then had the place finished to something livable. If he came to St. Louis to see a game or hit the former offices in Earth City, he'd always fly back to his main home in Columbia MO which is 125 miles away.If Stan Kroenke was a St. Louis local, then Dean Spanos is a Los Angeles local.I just remember him being a StL advocate. He helped secure the Rams from LA. A Missouri guy named after famous StL ball players. Business headquarters somewhere around there. How many StL natives told us LA guys we wee crazy to think he would turn against his own and take the Rams to Cali.. You may be right that he doesn't really identify himself as a St Louisan, at least not any more,, but I don't identify him as a Californian... or Denverite either. Enos Stanley has a StL ring to it. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by St. Loser Fan 8 years 10 months ago Total posts: 10889 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Re: HOK Sport still billing St. Louis for stadium that will never be built POST #19 TOPIC AUTHOR Hacksaw wrote:I just remember him being a StL advocate. He helped secure the Rams from LA. A Missouri guy named after famous StL ball players. Business headquarters somewhere around there. All fair points but still not enough to ever call him a St. Louis local. Not when he helped Georgia move the Rams, when he bought the team fully or when me moved them back to LA.Hacksaw wrote:How many StL natives told us LA guys we were crazy to think he would turn against his own and take the Rams to Cali.. Our stupidity and your superiority has already been established.Hacksaw wrote:You may be right that he doesn't really identify himself as a St Louisan, at least not any more,, but I don't identify him as a Californian... or Denverite either. Enos Stanley has a StL ring to it.Like a lot of billionaires he's a rolling stone, a resident of the world and no one place in particular. Though there are claims his Malibu mansion has been his favorite home (out of his many) for a long while. by Hacksaw 8 years 10 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: HOK Sport still billing St. Louis for stadium that will never be built POST #20 I guess. Can't blame him either,,, Malibu is NICE.I'd say that rolling stone is about to embed himself into SoCal from here on. GO RAMS. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS Reply 2 / 3 1 2 3 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 21 posts Jul 06 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by Hacksaw 8 years 10 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: HOK Sport still billing St. Louis for stadium that will never be built POST #15 St. Loser Fan wrote:Hacksaw wrote:Obviously something hasn't gone well in StL regarding pro football. 3 teams / 1 city ??? common denominator? -No local ownership.Kroenke was a local. It's bigger than that and not about the citizens. imo GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by St. Loser Fan 8 years 10 months ago Total posts: 10889 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Re: HOK Sport still billing St. Louis for stadium that will never be built POST #16 TOPIC AUTHOR Hacksaw wrote:St. Loser Fan wrote:Hacksaw wrote:Obviously something hasn't gone well in StL regarding pro football. 3 teams / 1 city ??? common denominator? -No local ownership.Kroenke was a local. It's bigger than that and not about the citizens. imoKroenke had little conection to St. Louis except for owning the Rams and about 1/3rd of the strip shopping malls in town. He didn't even have a residence in St. Louis. http://www.forbes.com/sites/morganbrennan/2013/11/27/billionaire-sports-mogul-stan-kroenkes-many-spreads/#5b5e74607c35Supposedly he owned a penthouse in downtown Clayton, but it was never built out and eventually bought by one of the Blues players who then had the place finished to something livable. If he came to St. Louis to see a game or hit the former offices in Earth City, he'd always fly back to his main home in Columbia MO which is 125 miles away.If Stan Kroenke was a St. Louis local, then Dean Spanos is a Los Angeles local. by St. Loser Fan 8 years 10 months ago Total posts: 10889 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Re: HOK Sport still billing St. Louis for stadium that will never be built POST #17 TOPIC AUTHOR Ray Hartman once again reminds everyone in St. Louis how messed up we are.https://www.stlmag.com/news/think-again/lessons-of-the-lost-stadium/ by Hacksaw 8 years 10 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: HOK Sport still billing St. Louis for stadium that will never be built POST #18 St. Loser Fan wrote:Hacksaw wrote:St. Loser Fan wrote: -No local ownership.Kroenke was a local. It's bigger than that and not about the citizens. imoKroenke had little conection to St. Louis except for owning the Rams and about 1/3rd of the strip shopping malls in town. He didn't even have a residence in St. Louis. http://www.forbes.com/sites/morganbrennan/2013/11/27/billionaire-sports-mogul-stan-kroenkes-many-spreads/#5b5e74607c35Supposedly he owned a penthouse in downtown Clayton, but it was never built out and eventually bought by one of the Blues players who then had the place finished to something livable. If he came to St. Louis to see a game or hit the former offices in Earth City, he'd always fly back to his main home in Columbia MO which is 125 miles away.If Stan Kroenke was a St. Louis local, then Dean Spanos is a Los Angeles local.I just remember him being a StL advocate. He helped secure the Rams from LA. A Missouri guy named after famous StL ball players. Business headquarters somewhere around there. How many StL natives told us LA guys we wee crazy to think he would turn against his own and take the Rams to Cali.. You may be right that he doesn't really identify himself as a St Louisan, at least not any more,, but I don't identify him as a Californian... or Denverite either. Enos Stanley has a StL ring to it. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by St. Loser Fan 8 years 10 months ago Total posts: 10889 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Re: HOK Sport still billing St. Louis for stadium that will never be built POST #19 TOPIC AUTHOR Hacksaw wrote:I just remember him being a StL advocate. He helped secure the Rams from LA. A Missouri guy named after famous StL ball players. Business headquarters somewhere around there. All fair points but still not enough to ever call him a St. Louis local. Not when he helped Georgia move the Rams, when he bought the team fully or when me moved them back to LA.Hacksaw wrote:How many StL natives told us LA guys we were crazy to think he would turn against his own and take the Rams to Cali.. Our stupidity and your superiority has already been established.Hacksaw wrote:You may be right that he doesn't really identify himself as a St Louisan, at least not any more,, but I don't identify him as a Californian... or Denverite either. Enos Stanley has a StL ring to it.Like a lot of billionaires he's a rolling stone, a resident of the world and no one place in particular. Though there are claims his Malibu mansion has been his favorite home (out of his many) for a long while. by Hacksaw 8 years 10 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: HOK Sport still billing St. Louis for stadium that will never be built POST #20 I guess. Can't blame him either,,, Malibu is NICE.I'd say that rolling stone is about to embed himself into SoCal from here on. GO RAMS. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS Reply 2 / 3 1 2 3 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 21 posts Jul 06 2025
by St. Loser Fan 8 years 10 months ago Total posts: 10889 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Re: HOK Sport still billing St. Louis for stadium that will never be built POST #16 TOPIC AUTHOR Hacksaw wrote:St. Loser Fan wrote:Hacksaw wrote:Obviously something hasn't gone well in StL regarding pro football. 3 teams / 1 city ??? common denominator? -No local ownership.Kroenke was a local. It's bigger than that and not about the citizens. imoKroenke had little conection to St. Louis except for owning the Rams and about 1/3rd of the strip shopping malls in town. He didn't even have a residence in St. Louis. http://www.forbes.com/sites/morganbrennan/2013/11/27/billionaire-sports-mogul-stan-kroenkes-many-spreads/#5b5e74607c35Supposedly he owned a penthouse in downtown Clayton, but it was never built out and eventually bought by one of the Blues players who then had the place finished to something livable. If he came to St. Louis to see a game or hit the former offices in Earth City, he'd always fly back to his main home in Columbia MO which is 125 miles away.If Stan Kroenke was a St. Louis local, then Dean Spanos is a Los Angeles local. by St. Loser Fan 8 years 10 months ago Total posts: 10889 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Re: HOK Sport still billing St. Louis for stadium that will never be built POST #17 TOPIC AUTHOR Ray Hartman once again reminds everyone in St. Louis how messed up we are.https://www.stlmag.com/news/think-again/lessons-of-the-lost-stadium/ by Hacksaw 8 years 10 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: HOK Sport still billing St. Louis for stadium that will never be built POST #18 St. Loser Fan wrote:Hacksaw wrote:St. Loser Fan wrote: -No local ownership.Kroenke was a local. It's bigger than that and not about the citizens. imoKroenke had little conection to St. Louis except for owning the Rams and about 1/3rd of the strip shopping malls in town. He didn't even have a residence in St. Louis. http://www.forbes.com/sites/morganbrennan/2013/11/27/billionaire-sports-mogul-stan-kroenkes-many-spreads/#5b5e74607c35Supposedly he owned a penthouse in downtown Clayton, but it was never built out and eventually bought by one of the Blues players who then had the place finished to something livable. If he came to St. Louis to see a game or hit the former offices in Earth City, he'd always fly back to his main home in Columbia MO which is 125 miles away.If Stan Kroenke was a St. Louis local, then Dean Spanos is a Los Angeles local.I just remember him being a StL advocate. He helped secure the Rams from LA. A Missouri guy named after famous StL ball players. Business headquarters somewhere around there. How many StL natives told us LA guys we wee crazy to think he would turn against his own and take the Rams to Cali.. You may be right that he doesn't really identify himself as a St Louisan, at least not any more,, but I don't identify him as a Californian... or Denverite either. Enos Stanley has a StL ring to it. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by St. Loser Fan 8 years 10 months ago Total posts: 10889 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Re: HOK Sport still billing St. Louis for stadium that will never be built POST #19 TOPIC AUTHOR Hacksaw wrote:I just remember him being a StL advocate. He helped secure the Rams from LA. A Missouri guy named after famous StL ball players. Business headquarters somewhere around there. All fair points but still not enough to ever call him a St. Louis local. Not when he helped Georgia move the Rams, when he bought the team fully or when me moved them back to LA.Hacksaw wrote:How many StL natives told us LA guys we were crazy to think he would turn against his own and take the Rams to Cali.. Our stupidity and your superiority has already been established.Hacksaw wrote:You may be right that he doesn't really identify himself as a St Louisan, at least not any more,, but I don't identify him as a Californian... or Denverite either. Enos Stanley has a StL ring to it.Like a lot of billionaires he's a rolling stone, a resident of the world and no one place in particular. Though there are claims his Malibu mansion has been his favorite home (out of his many) for a long while. by Hacksaw 8 years 10 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: HOK Sport still billing St. Louis for stadium that will never be built POST #20 I guess. Can't blame him either,,, Malibu is NICE.I'd say that rolling stone is about to embed himself into SoCal from here on. GO RAMS. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS Reply 2 / 3 1 2 3 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 21 posts Jul 06 2025
by St. Loser Fan 8 years 10 months ago Total posts: 10889 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Re: HOK Sport still billing St. Louis for stadium that will never be built POST #17 TOPIC AUTHOR Ray Hartman once again reminds everyone in St. Louis how messed up we are.https://www.stlmag.com/news/think-again/lessons-of-the-lost-stadium/ by Hacksaw 8 years 10 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: HOK Sport still billing St. Louis for stadium that will never be built POST #18 St. Loser Fan wrote:Hacksaw wrote:St. Loser Fan wrote: -No local ownership.Kroenke was a local. It's bigger than that and not about the citizens. imoKroenke had little conection to St. Louis except for owning the Rams and about 1/3rd of the strip shopping malls in town. He didn't even have a residence in St. Louis. http://www.forbes.com/sites/morganbrennan/2013/11/27/billionaire-sports-mogul-stan-kroenkes-many-spreads/#5b5e74607c35Supposedly he owned a penthouse in downtown Clayton, but it was never built out and eventually bought by one of the Blues players who then had the place finished to something livable. If he came to St. Louis to see a game or hit the former offices in Earth City, he'd always fly back to his main home in Columbia MO which is 125 miles away.If Stan Kroenke was a St. Louis local, then Dean Spanos is a Los Angeles local.I just remember him being a StL advocate. He helped secure the Rams from LA. A Missouri guy named after famous StL ball players. Business headquarters somewhere around there. How many StL natives told us LA guys we wee crazy to think he would turn against his own and take the Rams to Cali.. You may be right that he doesn't really identify himself as a St Louisan, at least not any more,, but I don't identify him as a Californian... or Denverite either. Enos Stanley has a StL ring to it. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by St. Loser Fan 8 years 10 months ago Total posts: 10889 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Re: HOK Sport still billing St. Louis for stadium that will never be built POST #19 TOPIC AUTHOR Hacksaw wrote:I just remember him being a StL advocate. He helped secure the Rams from LA. A Missouri guy named after famous StL ball players. Business headquarters somewhere around there. All fair points but still not enough to ever call him a St. Louis local. Not when he helped Georgia move the Rams, when he bought the team fully or when me moved them back to LA.Hacksaw wrote:How many StL natives told us LA guys we were crazy to think he would turn against his own and take the Rams to Cali.. Our stupidity and your superiority has already been established.Hacksaw wrote:You may be right that he doesn't really identify himself as a St Louisan, at least not any more,, but I don't identify him as a Californian... or Denverite either. Enos Stanley has a StL ring to it.Like a lot of billionaires he's a rolling stone, a resident of the world and no one place in particular. Though there are claims his Malibu mansion has been his favorite home (out of his many) for a long while. by Hacksaw 8 years 10 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: HOK Sport still billing St. Louis for stadium that will never be built POST #20 I guess. Can't blame him either,,, Malibu is NICE.I'd say that rolling stone is about to embed himself into SoCal from here on. GO RAMS. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS Reply 2 / 3 1 2 3 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 21 posts Jul 06 2025
by Hacksaw 8 years 10 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: HOK Sport still billing St. Louis for stadium that will never be built POST #18 St. Loser Fan wrote:Hacksaw wrote:St. Loser Fan wrote: -No local ownership.Kroenke was a local. It's bigger than that and not about the citizens. imoKroenke had little conection to St. Louis except for owning the Rams and about 1/3rd of the strip shopping malls in town. He didn't even have a residence in St. Louis. http://www.forbes.com/sites/morganbrennan/2013/11/27/billionaire-sports-mogul-stan-kroenkes-many-spreads/#5b5e74607c35Supposedly he owned a penthouse in downtown Clayton, but it was never built out and eventually bought by one of the Blues players who then had the place finished to something livable. If he came to St. Louis to see a game or hit the former offices in Earth City, he'd always fly back to his main home in Columbia MO which is 125 miles away.If Stan Kroenke was a St. Louis local, then Dean Spanos is a Los Angeles local.I just remember him being a StL advocate. He helped secure the Rams from LA. A Missouri guy named after famous StL ball players. Business headquarters somewhere around there. How many StL natives told us LA guys we wee crazy to think he would turn against his own and take the Rams to Cali.. You may be right that he doesn't really identify himself as a St Louisan, at least not any more,, but I don't identify him as a Californian... or Denverite either. Enos Stanley has a StL ring to it. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by St. Loser Fan 8 years 10 months ago Total posts: 10889 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Re: HOK Sport still billing St. Louis for stadium that will never be built POST #19 TOPIC AUTHOR Hacksaw wrote:I just remember him being a StL advocate. He helped secure the Rams from LA. A Missouri guy named after famous StL ball players. Business headquarters somewhere around there. All fair points but still not enough to ever call him a St. Louis local. Not when he helped Georgia move the Rams, when he bought the team fully or when me moved them back to LA.Hacksaw wrote:How many StL natives told us LA guys we were crazy to think he would turn against his own and take the Rams to Cali.. Our stupidity and your superiority has already been established.Hacksaw wrote:You may be right that he doesn't really identify himself as a St Louisan, at least not any more,, but I don't identify him as a Californian... or Denverite either. Enos Stanley has a StL ring to it.Like a lot of billionaires he's a rolling stone, a resident of the world and no one place in particular. Though there are claims his Malibu mansion has been his favorite home (out of his many) for a long while. by Hacksaw 8 years 10 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: HOK Sport still billing St. Louis for stadium that will never be built POST #20 I guess. Can't blame him either,,, Malibu is NICE.I'd say that rolling stone is about to embed himself into SoCal from here on. GO RAMS. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS Reply 2 / 3 1 2 3 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 21 posts Jul 06 2025
by St. Loser Fan 8 years 10 months ago Total posts: 10889 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Re: HOK Sport still billing St. Louis for stadium that will never be built POST #19 TOPIC AUTHOR Hacksaw wrote:I just remember him being a StL advocate. He helped secure the Rams from LA. A Missouri guy named after famous StL ball players. Business headquarters somewhere around there. All fair points but still not enough to ever call him a St. Louis local. Not when he helped Georgia move the Rams, when he bought the team fully or when me moved them back to LA.Hacksaw wrote:How many StL natives told us LA guys we were crazy to think he would turn against his own and take the Rams to Cali.. Our stupidity and your superiority has already been established.Hacksaw wrote:You may be right that he doesn't really identify himself as a St Louisan, at least not any more,, but I don't identify him as a Californian... or Denverite either. Enos Stanley has a StL ring to it.Like a lot of billionaires he's a rolling stone, a resident of the world and no one place in particular. Though there are claims his Malibu mansion has been his favorite home (out of his many) for a long while. by Hacksaw 8 years 10 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: HOK Sport still billing St. Louis for stadium that will never be built POST #20 I guess. Can't blame him either,,, Malibu is NICE.I'd say that rolling stone is about to embed himself into SoCal from here on. GO RAMS. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS Reply 2 / 3 1 2 3 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 21 posts Jul 06 2025
by Hacksaw 8 years 10 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: HOK Sport still billing St. Louis for stadium that will never be built POST #20 I guess. Can't blame him either,,, Malibu is NICE.I'd say that rolling stone is about to embed himself into SoCal from here on. GO RAMS. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS Reply 2 / 3 1 2 3 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business