[TSFH Fan]

Hold on, hold on, hold on. First here's a link and the part is about 5:45 in. http://thebeast980.com/2015/07/23/has-t ... s-to-stay/

She talks about what she heard yesterday re: money on the table and going rogue, what she heard yesterday -- the thing is, I think we've all heard these two things months ago. And I didn't hear this: "She said this is a 180 degree change from she has been hearing regarding the Rams, and she said the Rams are very frustrated with these developments." Where did she say this, a teaser segment or going into a break? Regardless, of course if she finally runs across something that we've all heard for months and that changes her mind. . .whatever.

Vinny, among others, talked about an unnamed owner saying it would be difficult for the league to supposedly leave public money on the table -- months ago. Of course there was no identification of the "owner" -- heck, Skip and Lucia are still "owners" as far as I know and there are lots of other smaller minority interest holders around the league -- and no mention of how Robert Kraft walked away from a proposed 100% publically funded waterfront stadium on the table.

Ok, Stan promised he won't go rogue. So? This has come up time to time. There won't be a reason to go rogue. If push came to shove and he didn't have the votes, to me, it's always made more sense to go FIFA rather than go rogue and Stan's got the resources.

Back to the OP's question, JZ has convenient timing as to when she supposedly hears things and there probably is reason not to classify her as an actual journalist.

[Edit: Biff, Skip, Chip, w/e]

[bubbaramfan]

The premise in Hacksaw's post is "IF" the Carson site is ready to go "NOW". It won't be long before it becomes public the Carson site has more problems than the remediation. Spanos and Davis were counting on dragging their sham out till the end of the season. I don't think they have that kind of time now. they have some more scrambling to do.

[The Ripper]

Hold on, hold on, hold on. First here's a link and the part is about 5:45 in. http://thebeast980.com/2015/07/23/has-t ... s-to-stay/

She talks about what she heard yesterday re: money on the table and going rogue, what she heard yesterday -- the thing is, I think we've all heard these two things months ago. And I didn't hear this: "She said this is a 180 degree change from she has been hearing regarding the Rams, and she said the Rams are very frustrated with these developments." Where did she say this, a teaser segment or going into a break? Regardless, of course if she finally runs across something that we've all heard for months and that changes her mind. . .whatever.

Vinny, among others, talked about an unnamed owner saying it would be difficult for the league to supposedly leave public money on the table -- months ago. Of course there was no identification of the "owner" -- heck, Skip and Lucia are still "owners" as far as I know and there are lots of other smaller minority interest holders around the league -- and no mention of how Robert Kraft walked away from a proposed 100% publically funded waterfront stadium on the table.

Ok, Stan promised he won't go rogue. So? This has come up time to time. There won't be a reason to go rogue. If push came to shove and he didn't have the votes, to me, it's always made more sense to go FIFA rather than go rogue and Stan's got the resources.

Back to the OP's question, JZ has convenient timing as to when she supposedly hears things and there probably is reason not to classify her as an actual journalist.

[Edit: Biff, Skip, Chip, w/e]

Kroenke has owned 100% of the team for over a year.

Jeanne changes like the wind. Inglewood in the beginning then Carson back to Inglewood and then back to Carson. It seems her opinion changes every time they interview someone. I am sure it was no insider just Balzer for the show prep

[dieterbrock]

She got crushed when she jumped the gun on the August deal but I have always liked her. This worries me

[Elvis]

ESPN NFL Insiders say Carson is in the lead because St. Louis has a decent proposal whereas SD and Oak do not (about 24 minutes in). Seems like these tend to drop on Fridays for some reason.

Maybe it's true, maybe it's not. But i'd point out this is the time NFL sources would be inclined to scare Oakland and San Diego into acting on new stadiums while giving St. Louis fans some hope with the 2015 season about to kick off. Even if the Rams moving to Inglewood was all but certain, you'd expect to be hearing stories like this right about now...

http://espn.go.com/espnradio/play?id=13313715

[Hacksaw]

This was a pure speculation piece by Balzer. Each coin has 2 sides,,, this is just the other side.
A matter of factish comment about Carson being the other option.


Even if the Rams leave, the NFL isn't leaving StL unless they close the market. Another team in is still in their vocabulary but that's in the solutions file.


Not to specific or final with what or whom they heard. It's not so much whether or not StL comes up with their 'meet you half way' deal,, it's how much they sweeten up the pot for Stan. My very rough impression of the economics in StL is that they can't afford to give him a sweet deal and repay the debt. So if what Balzer said is true (and he sounded certain about it) that Kroenke intends to get his way, then LA has a very good chance of happening. They Rams had to force their way out ($$$) They are surprisingly going to have to force their way back in.
I sensed a weird SD thing going on too fwiw....

[Hacksaw]

ESPN NFL Insiders say Carson is in the lead because St. Louis has a decent proposal whereas SD and Oak do not (about 24 minutes in). Seems like these tend to drop on Fridays for some reason.

Maybe it's true, maybe it's not. But i'd point out this is the time NFL sources would be inclined to scare Oakland and San Diego into acting on new stadiums while giving St. Louis fans some hope with the 2015 season about to kick off. Even if the Rams moving to Inglewood was all but certain, you'd expect to be hearing stories like this right about now...

http://espn.go.com/espnradio/play?id=13313715

Why not give hope to SD and Oak fans too? I'd have to think that each city knows exactly what's going on.


To NFL: SD needs more time or bust. Approve Rams with SD in 2 years if need be
Oakland G-4 + $250M from relocation from Rams. IF city can't pull a StL then suck it up in Alameda or cash in in San Antonio or possibly St Louis.
end//

ESK is motivated and determined to get a good deal. I can see him backing off if StL gives him the farm, but I don't see how what they can offer will remotely compares.
How can they force him to pay it anyhow?

The argument isn't so much how good StL has done, just that they are doing something more concrete.

3 new stadiums is better than 2

[BuiltRamTough]

I told you y'all going to hear more and more about Carson and how much the owners like it. It might even get to the point in the middle of season were all we're going to hear about is Carson.

I think the owners have already made a decision and its Inglewood so why not keep pushing Carson. It makes sense. Keep the pressure on all 3 cities.

You'll hear Mayor Butts go on radio once a month and say "we're on track to break ground in December". He does that now on Freds show. Basically once a month he's on the show. He will say the same thing month after month till December is here and they break ground.

It's happening right in front of our eyes. Take Carson out the picture and what do you have? You have a project that's been in the works for 1-2 years. You have prep work going on. Buildings being imploded. A casino being moved. Dirt being pushed.

The problem is Carson is clouding our judgment. That's what the NFL wants. There's still a season to be played. Leverage to be played.

[Hacksaw]

http://espn.go.com/espnradio/play?id=13313715[/quote]

He referred to the "Teams" this or that repeatedly. subliminal or grammatical?

[TSFH Fan]

For the Graziano / ESPN NFL Insider thing:
Dude uses "sense I get", "it seems", and "sounds like" and tops it with "things could change in the next few months".

So, to me, add it all together, and he's saying . . . nothing?