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 by snackdaddy
9 years 5 months ago
 Total posts:   10052  
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United States of America   Merced California
Hall of Fame

Fisher should be on the hot seat. Many people don't believe he has what it takes to produce a consistent winner. Going 7-9 in LA will be a lot harder than it was in St. Louis. No excuses this year. Produce or feel the heat. Stan's history shows he's been patient with coaches. But he can't accept another losing season in year 5. Which will also be year one in LA. That would offset a lot of the euphoria LA fans have with their team back.

 by Jacksnowfan
9 years 5 months ago
 Total posts:   54  
 Joined:  Oct 28 2015
United States of America   Washington state
Practice Squad

Maybe Fisher kept his job because he did what he was supposed to do, lose, attendance goes down in St Louis and the Rams get the ok to move to L.A.

 by Elvis
9 years 5 months ago
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United States of America   Los Angeles
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I don't do the whole conspiracy thing but there certainly wasn't a lot of pressure to win right away in St. Louis for Fisher. He could afford to take a slower approach to rebuilding. And it's not like all you have to do in the NFL to win is try to win.

So the question remains: Is that what's been going on? Will we see a sense of urgency now?

And will it work? If Jeff Fisher competent to do better than what we've seen these last four years?

We are going to find out...

 by Indrid Cold
9 years 5 months ago
 Total posts:   972  
 Joined:  Sep 24 2015
United States of America   Redington Beach, FL
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BuiltRamTough wrote:"Fisher survived yet another mediocre season despite having a roster that is capable of so much more."

Who put that roster together?


This is a prevalent thing to say/write about the Rams, that we have a greater roster (read D) are underachieving. Not sure I buy that. To me, Rams have the roster of a 7-9 team and a coach that gets nothing more/nothing less out of them. Snead/Fisher have hit some homeruns: Donald, Gurley and I think Ogletree and MacDonald are pro bowlers if they can stay healthy. But lots of misses, too. It's hard to determine who makes the calls, but drafting a 5'9" 180 guy at No. 8, picking Pead and Quick in Rd 2, Robinson at No. 2, plenty to wonder about other than coaching. Lots of premium draft spots have been available and I don't think this regime has capitalized, much like the regimes before...

They are very adept at getting to the draft spots they want to (via trades), but as far targeting the right players, much to be desired IMO.

 by BuiltRamTough
9 years 5 months ago
 Total posts:   5357  
 Joined:  May 15 2015
Armenia   Los Angeles
Hall of Fame

Indrid Cold wrote:
BuiltRamTough wrote:"Fisher survived yet another mediocre season despite having a roster that is capable of so much more."

Who put that roster together?


This is a prevalent thing to say/write about the Rams, that we have a greater roster (read D) are underachieving. Not sure I buy that. To me, Rams have the roster of a 7-9 team and a coach that gets nothing more/nothing less out of them. Snead/Fisher have hit some homeruns: Donald, Gurley and I think Ogletree and MacDonald are pro bowlers if they can stay healthy. But lots of misses, too. It's hard to determine who makes the calls, but drafting a 5'9" 180 guy at No. 8, picking Pead and Quick in Rd 2, Robinson at No. 2, plenty to wonder about other than coaching. Lots of premium draft spots have been available and I don't think this regime has capitalized, much like the regimes before...

They are very adept at getting to the draft spots they want to (via trades), but as far targeting the right players, much to be desired IMO.

I get it. I mean Fishers career record speaks for it self.

To be fair, everyone thought Greg was the right pick at 2. Also said it would take a couple of years for him to play like a pro bowler.

Pead is a bust and Quick seems like a bust. However he was playin good before his injury. So who know with him. You can't hit on everyone in the draft. If you're 50/50 on the draft then you have a playoff contender.

Gurely and Donald have Hall of Fame potential. Don't underestimate that. It's not a home run its a grand slam. Even Ogeltree has potential for the gold jacket.

Bottom line is, if Fisher can't find a QB and win then he deserves to be gone. History shows when Fisher has a QB (McNair) (that old white guy I can't remember his name) and to some extent Bradford, they win. If Foles played the way he was supposed to they would win more. Keenum, a backup QB played decent and they went 4-1.

Even Austin Davis and Shaun Hill when played decent the Rams won.

Hopefully they could find the guy this year or else....bye Fish.

 by max
9 years 5 months ago
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United States of America   Sarasota, FL
Hall of Fame

Fisher won 13 games in TENN in 2008 with less talent and a washed up Kerry Collins who had an 80.2 passer rating that year.

Why can't Fisher do that in LA where the conditions are the best he's had in his career?

 by BuiltRamTough
9 years 5 months ago
 Total posts:   5357  
 Joined:  May 15 2015
Armenia   Los Angeles
Hall of Fame

My whole thing is continuity.

I don't want to be like these other teams and fire a coach after 2 seasons. That gets you no where.

It make sense to do that if the roster is horrible and the coach has lost the team and can't find a QB.

 by snackdaddy
9 years 5 months ago
 Total posts:   10052  
 Joined:  May 30 2015
United States of America   Merced California
Hall of Fame

Elvis wrote:I don't do the whole conspiracy thing but there certainly wasn't a lot of pressure to win right away in St. Louis for Fisher. He could afford to take a slower approach to rebuilding. And it's not like all you have to do in the NFL to win is try to win.

So the question remains: Is that what's been going on? Will we see a sense of urgency now?

And will it work? If Jeff Fisher competent to do better than what we've seen these last four years?

We are going to find out...


Thats what I'm thinking. Knowing you have a longer leash changes the decision making process in the offseason. You're more inclined to think about the future than the present. If he felt more pressure I could see them going after more free agents to address issues. He went with the draft. Which is usually the indication of a coach having time to rebuild. I can't see him having the same long leash this coming season. Free agency will answer a lot. Will they approach it with a sense of urgency?

 by Gareth
9 years 5 months ago
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 Joined:  Mar 30 2015
United States of America   LA Coliseum
Pro Bowl

While I agree that Fisher realized his leash was longer than normal due to the pending relocation, I really doubt it had much effect on what he did. Head coaches in the NFL are incredibly competitive. You don't get to where Fisher has gotten without having a huge drive to succeed. I just don't believe that he was waiting to get to LA before he really turns it on. Rather, I think the game has mostly passed him by and he has shown very little ability/desire to make the necessary changes. He plays the game to keep it close and then when they lose close games, he tells us how they easily could have won them.

I do realize, by the way, that Denver winning the Superbowl, with the kind of team they fielded this year, works against my argument. They showed you CAN win a Superbowl with a Fisher-type model. I just think it's a very difficult way to go and Fisher hasn't gotten anywhere with that plan.

 by Hacksaw
9 years 5 months ago
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United States of America   AT THE BEACH
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BuiltRamTough wrote:My whole thing is continuity.
I don't want to be like these other teams and fire a coach after 2 seasons. That gets you no where.
It make sense to do that if the roster is horrible and the coach has lost the team and can't find a QB.


I agree. Build a solid foundation. FA has weakened the players stability quite a bit so the owner/front office down to the coaches is where that stability needs to be found. Changing every 3 years is only good if you have a rudderless ship with idiots under hire. That way you have a better shot at getting lucky.
I believe this was our former regimes (GF) approach. Remember GF chose the colors of the Rams new uni's because of how the names of the colors coincided with the year, our using her 'horror'scope to select players or that she liked the way Bert Jones looked taking a snap. :shock:

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