[69superbowl]

Go Beavs.

[moklerman]

His throwing motion looks awkward to me. Like he's forcing it. Doesn't appear natural. Am I seeing ghosts?

Not at all. I think he's slow in making decisions and slow at delivering the ball and hated the pick. I hope he proves me wrong but I don't think he's NFL caliber at all.

[safer]

zn--Mannion went to Oregon STATE, not Oregon. He didn't play for Kelly in college. I still don't understand why he didn't play at least half of our last game. Just doesn't make any sense to me.

[Stranger]

His throwing motion looks awkward to me. Like he's forcing it. Doesn't appear natural. Am I seeing ghosts?

Not at all. I think he's slow in making decisions and slow at delivering the ball and hated the pick. I hope he proves me wrong but I don't think he's NFL caliber at all.

I don't really know a lot about the kid, but watching the vids posted in this thread screamed yellow flags for me.

[Elvis]

zn--Mannion went to Oregon STATE, not Oregon. He didn't play for Kelly in college. I still don't understand why he didn't play at least half of our last game. Just doesn't make any sense to me.

safer. nice to see you here, welcome.

Maybe Mannion just wasn't ready to play.

But i think more likely it's the slow methodical approach of a regime that knew they weren't under a ton of pressure to win and could take their time.

Now that location is settled, i think there will be more of a sense of urgency, but, we'll see...

[/zn/]

zn--Mannion went to Oregon STATE, not Oregon. He didn't play for Kelly in college. I still don't understand why he didn't play at least half of our last game. Just doesn't make any sense to me.

I didn't say Mannion played in a spread. I said Foles did.

One reason they picked Mannion is because he came out of a pro style college system. That was widely known.

Read my post again, you completely misread it.

My point was that they had to both (1) get Mannion up to speed as a rookie qb (which is a challenge in its own right even though he played in a college pro-style offense), AND (2) get Foles up to speed in the system, a problem compounded by the fact that he played a spread in college and in Kelly's system in the pros . He only had 1 year in a normal pro offense (under Reid). (In fact it's so much of an issue with Foles that Snead has commented on it as being one of the things holding him back with the Rams.)

My point was that with CBA limited practice time, it would be asking a lot to get them BOTH up to speed last year. So Mannion never really had much of an opportunity in 2015.

[Hacksaw]

His throwing motion looks awkward to me. Like he's forcing it. Doesn't appear natural. Am I seeing ghosts?

I don't see the ball getting batted down at the LOS ala Haden. To release the ball that high must slow down his release time though. His plant leg looks torqued too.

[Hacksaw]

zn--Mannion went to Oregon STATE, not Oregon. He didn't play for Kelly in college. I still don't understand why he didn't play at least half of our last game. Just doesn't make any sense to me.

Hey safer. Really glad you finally made it over. Great time last year at Pirates and the scrum in Oxnard.
I hope you stick around as your knowledge of game fundamentals, especially grading protection and personnel will be a great asset to this board.
Cheers bro!

Agreed about giving Mannion a crack in real games. We were toast with a few weeks left so what was there to lose? Other than hurting Keenums feelings/momentum. Of course these are the pros and so that shouldn't really be a concern. Perhaps the staff didn't like what they saw in practice.
I can't help but think that the relocation and the winning-ness of the team was somehow important in that mix.

[moklerman]

His throwing motion looks awkward to me. Like he's forcing it. Doesn't appear natural. Am I seeing ghosts?

Not at all. I think he's slow in making decisions and slow at delivering the ball and hated the pick. I hope he proves me wrong but I don't think he's NFL caliber at all.

I don't really know a lot about the kid, but watching the vids posted in this thread screamed yellow flags for me.

I meant no, you're not seeing ghosts. I don't like the way he throws either. His throwing motion is neither tight nor compact, which is even more of an issue with a guy who's built like a pterodactyl. Compound that with slow feet and what seems like slow decision making--at the college level, and I was not thrilled with him as the pick for the Rams.

Like I said back then, he's just a Kerry Collins clone. Considering Fisher had Collins with the Titans and seemed to like him, I guess the pick isn't that hard to figure out. But I didn't and don't like it.

I hope Mannion proves me wrong and lights the world on fire but realistically, it just further suggests that the plan under Fisher is going to continue to be to run an offense that seems to just begrudgingly tolerate having a QB on the field.

[Stranger]

Not at all. I think he's slow in making decisions and slow at delivering the ball and hated the pick. I hope he proves me wrong but I don't think he's NFL caliber at all.

I don't really know a lot about the kid, but watching the vids posted in this thread screamed yellow flags for me.

I meant no, you're not seeing ghosts. I don't like the way he throws either. His throwing motion is neither tight nor compact, which is even more of an issue with a guy who's built like a pterodactyl. Compound that with slow feet and what seems like slow decision making--at the college level, and I was not thrilled with him as the pick for the Rams.

Like I said back then, he's just a Kerry Collins clone. Considering Fisher had Collins with the Titans and seemed to like him, I guess the pick isn't that hard to figure out. But I didn't and don't like it.

I hope Mannion proves me wrong and lights the world on fire but realistically, it just further suggests that the plan under Fisher is going to continue to be to run an offense that seems to just begrudgingly tolerate having a QB on the field.

I'm wondering if our top 2 QB's (starter & backup) aren't on the roster yet.