by azramsfan93 9 years 5 months ago Total posts: 1562 Joined: Jun 30 2015 Chandler, Arizona Pro Bowl Re: Greene and Pace make HOF, not Warner... POST #11 maxxx power wrote:Can someone please help me understand why Dungy is a HOF coach? He won one Super Bowl. Lost one. Is Cowher a HOF coach?He had more wins than Dungy and also won a Super Bowl.I don't get it.He was the first African-American coach to win a Super Bowl. History. by Hacksaw 9 years 5 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: Greene and Pace make HOF, not Warner... POST #12 Will Greene go in as a Ram or Steeler ? Either way congrat's to him and OP. Warner will get his. As a consolation, I heard he won the Hi-Vee stock boy of the year award for the 17th straight year. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by moklerman 9 years 5 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Re: Greene and Pace make HOF, not Warner... POST #13 azramsfan93 wrote:maxxx power wrote:Can someone please help me understand why Dungy is a HOF coach? He won one Super Bowl. Lost one. Is Cowher a HOF coach?He had more wins than Dungy and also won a Super Bowl.I don't get it.He was the first African-American coach to win a Super Bowl. History.If so, just another example of racism. He should either be good enough on merit or not. His skin shouldn't have anything to do with it. by Hacksaw 9 years 5 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: Greene and Pace make HOF, not Warner... POST #14 The NFL would never want to be compared to the Academy Awards by snubbing their African American talent. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by Hacksaw 9 years 5 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: Greene and Pace make HOF, not Warner... POST #15 DeBartolo ?? GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by maxxx power 9 years 5 months ago Total posts: 1016 Joined: Jan 13 2016 Norcal Pro Bowl Re: Greene and Pace make HOF, not Warner... POST #16 moklerman wrote:azramsfan93 wrote:maxxx power wrote:Can someone please help me understand why Dungy is a HOF coach? He won one Super Bowl. Lost one. Is Cowher a HOF coach?He had more wins than Dungy and also won a Super Bowl.I don't get it.He was the first African-American coach to win a Super Bowl. History.If so, just another example of racism. He should either be good enough on merit or not. His skin shouldn't have anything to do with it.My thoughts as well. Tom Flores was the first Hispanic coach to win a Super Bowl. He won two. Doug Williams was the first black quarterback to win a Super Bowl. He's not a HOFer. I just never understood him for HOF on his merits alone. Self-Appointed Rams Historian RFU Season Ticket Holder by Hacksaw 9 years 5 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: Greene and Pace make HOF, not Warner... POST #17 maxxx power wrote:moklerman wrote:azramsfan93 wrote:He was the first African-American coach to win a Super Bowl. History.If so, just another example of racism. He should either be good enough on merit or not. His skin shouldn't have anything to do with it.My thoughts as well. Tom Flores was the first Hispanic coach to win a Super Bowl. He won two. Doug Williams was the first black quarterback to win a Super Bowl. He's not a HOFer. I just never understood him for HOF on his merits alone.Perhaps his TV gig helped him get a nod. He may very well be brighter that we know. Not that Dungy isn't worthy, but the NFL best be careful to make earning that award special and difficult. DeBartolo? GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by Elvis 9 years 5 months ago Total posts: 41540 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Greene and Pace make HOF, not Warner... POST #18 He built that TB defense that won a SB and was one of the best of all time and then won a SB in Indi.Everyone loves him.Maybe not the strongest resume but not hard to see how Dungy got in... RFU Season Ticket Holder by The Ripper 9 years 5 months ago Total posts: 494 Joined: May 13 2015 Naples, FL Starter Re: Greene and Pace make HOF, not Warner... POST #19 maxxx power wrote:moklerman wrote:azramsfan93 wrote:He was the first African-American coach to win a Super Bowl. History.If so, just another example of racism. He should either be good enough on merit or not. His skin shouldn't have anything to do with it.My thoughts as well. Tom Flores was the first Hispanic coach to win a Super Bowl. He won two. Doug Williams was the first black quarterback to win a Super Bowl. He's not a HOFer. I just never understood him for HOF on his merits alone.He transformed the Bucs into a playoff team and if it wasn't for Malcom Glazer he would have won a SB in Tampa. by moklerman 9 years 5 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Re: Greene and Pace make HOF, not Warner... POST #20 maxxx power wrote:moklerman wrote:azramsfan93 wrote:He was the first African-American coach to win a Super Bowl. History.If so, just another example of racism. He should either be good enough on merit or not. His skin shouldn't have anything to do with it.My thoughts as well. Tom Flores was the first Hispanic coach to win a Super Bowl. He won two. Doug Williams was the first black quarterback to win a Super Bowl. He's not a HOFer. I just never understood him for HOF on his merits alone.Flores is a damn shame. Regardless of skin color/ethnicity that guy should be in the HOF. The HOF is voted on by too many that feel they are bigger than who is being voted on. It isn't about who deserves to be in, it's who's behind the scenes greasing the skids. I still want Warner to get in but it won't be long before I don't even care. Their opinion means very little to me and the award/honor of getting in really doesn't mean anything either. Reply 2 / 4 1 2 4 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 33 posts Jul 18 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by Hacksaw 9 years 5 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: Greene and Pace make HOF, not Warner... POST #12 Will Greene go in as a Ram or Steeler ? Either way congrat's to him and OP. Warner will get his. As a consolation, I heard he won the Hi-Vee stock boy of the year award for the 17th straight year. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by moklerman 9 years 5 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Re: Greene and Pace make HOF, not Warner... POST #13 azramsfan93 wrote:maxxx power wrote:Can someone please help me understand why Dungy is a HOF coach? He won one Super Bowl. Lost one. Is Cowher a HOF coach?He had more wins than Dungy and also won a Super Bowl.I don't get it.He was the first African-American coach to win a Super Bowl. History.If so, just another example of racism. He should either be good enough on merit or not. His skin shouldn't have anything to do with it. by Hacksaw 9 years 5 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: Greene and Pace make HOF, not Warner... POST #14 The NFL would never want to be compared to the Academy Awards by snubbing their African American talent. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by Hacksaw 9 years 5 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: Greene and Pace make HOF, not Warner... POST #15 DeBartolo ?? GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by maxxx power 9 years 5 months ago Total posts: 1016 Joined: Jan 13 2016 Norcal Pro Bowl Re: Greene and Pace make HOF, not Warner... POST #16 moklerman wrote:azramsfan93 wrote:maxxx power wrote:Can someone please help me understand why Dungy is a HOF coach? He won one Super Bowl. Lost one. Is Cowher a HOF coach?He had more wins than Dungy and also won a Super Bowl.I don't get it.He was the first African-American coach to win a Super Bowl. History.If so, just another example of racism. He should either be good enough on merit or not. His skin shouldn't have anything to do with it.My thoughts as well. Tom Flores was the first Hispanic coach to win a Super Bowl. He won two. Doug Williams was the first black quarterback to win a Super Bowl. He's not a HOFer. I just never understood him for HOF on his merits alone. Self-Appointed Rams Historian RFU Season Ticket Holder by Hacksaw 9 years 5 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: Greene and Pace make HOF, not Warner... POST #17 maxxx power wrote:moklerman wrote:azramsfan93 wrote:He was the first African-American coach to win a Super Bowl. History.If so, just another example of racism. He should either be good enough on merit or not. His skin shouldn't have anything to do with it.My thoughts as well. Tom Flores was the first Hispanic coach to win a Super Bowl. He won two. Doug Williams was the first black quarterback to win a Super Bowl. He's not a HOFer. I just never understood him for HOF on his merits alone.Perhaps his TV gig helped him get a nod. He may very well be brighter that we know. Not that Dungy isn't worthy, but the NFL best be careful to make earning that award special and difficult. DeBartolo? GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by Elvis 9 years 5 months ago Total posts: 41540 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Greene and Pace make HOF, not Warner... POST #18 He built that TB defense that won a SB and was one of the best of all time and then won a SB in Indi.Everyone loves him.Maybe not the strongest resume but not hard to see how Dungy got in... RFU Season Ticket Holder by The Ripper 9 years 5 months ago Total posts: 494 Joined: May 13 2015 Naples, FL Starter Re: Greene and Pace make HOF, not Warner... POST #19 maxxx power wrote:moklerman wrote:azramsfan93 wrote:He was the first African-American coach to win a Super Bowl. History.If so, just another example of racism. He should either be good enough on merit or not. His skin shouldn't have anything to do with it.My thoughts as well. Tom Flores was the first Hispanic coach to win a Super Bowl. He won two. Doug Williams was the first black quarterback to win a Super Bowl. He's not a HOFer. I just never understood him for HOF on his merits alone.He transformed the Bucs into a playoff team and if it wasn't for Malcom Glazer he would have won a SB in Tampa. by moklerman 9 years 5 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Re: Greene and Pace make HOF, not Warner... POST #20 maxxx power wrote:moklerman wrote:azramsfan93 wrote:He was the first African-American coach to win a Super Bowl. History.If so, just another example of racism. He should either be good enough on merit or not. His skin shouldn't have anything to do with it.My thoughts as well. Tom Flores was the first Hispanic coach to win a Super Bowl. He won two. Doug Williams was the first black quarterback to win a Super Bowl. He's not a HOFer. I just never understood him for HOF on his merits alone.Flores is a damn shame. Regardless of skin color/ethnicity that guy should be in the HOF. The HOF is voted on by too many that feel they are bigger than who is being voted on. It isn't about who deserves to be in, it's who's behind the scenes greasing the skids. I still want Warner to get in but it won't be long before I don't even care. Their opinion means very little to me and the award/honor of getting in really doesn't mean anything either. Reply 2 / 4 1 2 4 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 33 posts Jul 18 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by moklerman 9 years 5 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Re: Greene and Pace make HOF, not Warner... POST #13 azramsfan93 wrote:maxxx power wrote:Can someone please help me understand why Dungy is a HOF coach? He won one Super Bowl. Lost one. Is Cowher a HOF coach?He had more wins than Dungy and also won a Super Bowl.I don't get it.He was the first African-American coach to win a Super Bowl. History.If so, just another example of racism. He should either be good enough on merit or not. His skin shouldn't have anything to do with it. by Hacksaw 9 years 5 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: Greene and Pace make HOF, not Warner... POST #14 The NFL would never want to be compared to the Academy Awards by snubbing their African American talent. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by Hacksaw 9 years 5 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: Greene and Pace make HOF, not Warner... POST #15 DeBartolo ?? GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by maxxx power 9 years 5 months ago Total posts: 1016 Joined: Jan 13 2016 Norcal Pro Bowl Re: Greene and Pace make HOF, not Warner... POST #16 moklerman wrote:azramsfan93 wrote:maxxx power wrote:Can someone please help me understand why Dungy is a HOF coach? He won one Super Bowl. Lost one. Is Cowher a HOF coach?He had more wins than Dungy and also won a Super Bowl.I don't get it.He was the first African-American coach to win a Super Bowl. History.If so, just another example of racism. He should either be good enough on merit or not. His skin shouldn't have anything to do with it.My thoughts as well. Tom Flores was the first Hispanic coach to win a Super Bowl. He won two. Doug Williams was the first black quarterback to win a Super Bowl. He's not a HOFer. I just never understood him for HOF on his merits alone. Self-Appointed Rams Historian RFU Season Ticket Holder by Hacksaw 9 years 5 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: Greene and Pace make HOF, not Warner... POST #17 maxxx power wrote:moklerman wrote:azramsfan93 wrote:He was the first African-American coach to win a Super Bowl. History.If so, just another example of racism. He should either be good enough on merit or not. His skin shouldn't have anything to do with it.My thoughts as well. Tom Flores was the first Hispanic coach to win a Super Bowl. He won two. Doug Williams was the first black quarterback to win a Super Bowl. He's not a HOFer. I just never understood him for HOF on his merits alone.Perhaps his TV gig helped him get a nod. He may very well be brighter that we know. Not that Dungy isn't worthy, but the NFL best be careful to make earning that award special and difficult. DeBartolo? GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by Elvis 9 years 5 months ago Total posts: 41540 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Greene and Pace make HOF, not Warner... POST #18 He built that TB defense that won a SB and was one of the best of all time and then won a SB in Indi.Everyone loves him.Maybe not the strongest resume but not hard to see how Dungy got in... RFU Season Ticket Holder by The Ripper 9 years 5 months ago Total posts: 494 Joined: May 13 2015 Naples, FL Starter Re: Greene and Pace make HOF, not Warner... POST #19 maxxx power wrote:moklerman wrote:azramsfan93 wrote:He was the first African-American coach to win a Super Bowl. History.If so, just another example of racism. He should either be good enough on merit or not. His skin shouldn't have anything to do with it.My thoughts as well. Tom Flores was the first Hispanic coach to win a Super Bowl. He won two. Doug Williams was the first black quarterback to win a Super Bowl. He's not a HOFer. I just never understood him for HOF on his merits alone.He transformed the Bucs into a playoff team and if it wasn't for Malcom Glazer he would have won a SB in Tampa. by moklerman 9 years 5 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Re: Greene and Pace make HOF, not Warner... POST #20 maxxx power wrote:moklerman wrote:azramsfan93 wrote:He was the first African-American coach to win a Super Bowl. History.If so, just another example of racism. He should either be good enough on merit or not. His skin shouldn't have anything to do with it.My thoughts as well. Tom Flores was the first Hispanic coach to win a Super Bowl. He won two. Doug Williams was the first black quarterback to win a Super Bowl. He's not a HOFer. I just never understood him for HOF on his merits alone.Flores is a damn shame. Regardless of skin color/ethnicity that guy should be in the HOF. The HOF is voted on by too many that feel they are bigger than who is being voted on. It isn't about who deserves to be in, it's who's behind the scenes greasing the skids. I still want Warner to get in but it won't be long before I don't even care. Their opinion means very little to me and the award/honor of getting in really doesn't mean anything either. Reply 2 / 4 1 2 4 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 33 posts Jul 18 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by Hacksaw 9 years 5 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: Greene and Pace make HOF, not Warner... POST #14 The NFL would never want to be compared to the Academy Awards by snubbing their African American talent. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by Hacksaw 9 years 5 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: Greene and Pace make HOF, not Warner... POST #15 DeBartolo ?? GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by maxxx power 9 years 5 months ago Total posts: 1016 Joined: Jan 13 2016 Norcal Pro Bowl Re: Greene and Pace make HOF, not Warner... POST #16 moklerman wrote:azramsfan93 wrote:maxxx power wrote:Can someone please help me understand why Dungy is a HOF coach? He won one Super Bowl. Lost one. Is Cowher a HOF coach?He had more wins than Dungy and also won a Super Bowl.I don't get it.He was the first African-American coach to win a Super Bowl. History.If so, just another example of racism. He should either be good enough on merit or not. His skin shouldn't have anything to do with it.My thoughts as well. Tom Flores was the first Hispanic coach to win a Super Bowl. He won two. Doug Williams was the first black quarterback to win a Super Bowl. He's not a HOFer. I just never understood him for HOF on his merits alone. Self-Appointed Rams Historian RFU Season Ticket Holder by Hacksaw 9 years 5 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: Greene and Pace make HOF, not Warner... POST #17 maxxx power wrote:moklerman wrote:azramsfan93 wrote:He was the first African-American coach to win a Super Bowl. History.If so, just another example of racism. He should either be good enough on merit or not. His skin shouldn't have anything to do with it.My thoughts as well. Tom Flores was the first Hispanic coach to win a Super Bowl. He won two. Doug Williams was the first black quarterback to win a Super Bowl. He's not a HOFer. I just never understood him for HOF on his merits alone.Perhaps his TV gig helped him get a nod. He may very well be brighter that we know. Not that Dungy isn't worthy, but the NFL best be careful to make earning that award special and difficult. DeBartolo? GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by Elvis 9 years 5 months ago Total posts: 41540 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Greene and Pace make HOF, not Warner... POST #18 He built that TB defense that won a SB and was one of the best of all time and then won a SB in Indi.Everyone loves him.Maybe not the strongest resume but not hard to see how Dungy got in... RFU Season Ticket Holder by The Ripper 9 years 5 months ago Total posts: 494 Joined: May 13 2015 Naples, FL Starter Re: Greene and Pace make HOF, not Warner... POST #19 maxxx power wrote:moklerman wrote:azramsfan93 wrote:He was the first African-American coach to win a Super Bowl. History.If so, just another example of racism. He should either be good enough on merit or not. His skin shouldn't have anything to do with it.My thoughts as well. Tom Flores was the first Hispanic coach to win a Super Bowl. He won two. Doug Williams was the first black quarterback to win a Super Bowl. He's not a HOFer. I just never understood him for HOF on his merits alone.He transformed the Bucs into a playoff team and if it wasn't for Malcom Glazer he would have won a SB in Tampa. by moklerman 9 years 5 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Re: Greene and Pace make HOF, not Warner... POST #20 maxxx power wrote:moklerman wrote:azramsfan93 wrote:He was the first African-American coach to win a Super Bowl. History.If so, just another example of racism. He should either be good enough on merit or not. His skin shouldn't have anything to do with it.My thoughts as well. Tom Flores was the first Hispanic coach to win a Super Bowl. He won two. Doug Williams was the first black quarterback to win a Super Bowl. He's not a HOFer. I just never understood him for HOF on his merits alone.Flores is a damn shame. Regardless of skin color/ethnicity that guy should be in the HOF. The HOF is voted on by too many that feel they are bigger than who is being voted on. It isn't about who deserves to be in, it's who's behind the scenes greasing the skids. I still want Warner to get in but it won't be long before I don't even care. Their opinion means very little to me and the award/honor of getting in really doesn't mean anything either. Reply 2 / 4 1 2 4 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 33 posts Jul 18 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by Hacksaw 9 years 5 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: Greene and Pace make HOF, not Warner... POST #15 DeBartolo ?? GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by maxxx power 9 years 5 months ago Total posts: 1016 Joined: Jan 13 2016 Norcal Pro Bowl Re: Greene and Pace make HOF, not Warner... POST #16 moklerman wrote:azramsfan93 wrote:maxxx power wrote:Can someone please help me understand why Dungy is a HOF coach? He won one Super Bowl. Lost one. Is Cowher a HOF coach?He had more wins than Dungy and also won a Super Bowl.I don't get it.He was the first African-American coach to win a Super Bowl. History.If so, just another example of racism. He should either be good enough on merit or not. His skin shouldn't have anything to do with it.My thoughts as well. Tom Flores was the first Hispanic coach to win a Super Bowl. He won two. Doug Williams was the first black quarterback to win a Super Bowl. He's not a HOFer. I just never understood him for HOF on his merits alone. Self-Appointed Rams Historian RFU Season Ticket Holder by Hacksaw 9 years 5 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: Greene and Pace make HOF, not Warner... POST #17 maxxx power wrote:moklerman wrote:azramsfan93 wrote:He was the first African-American coach to win a Super Bowl. History.If so, just another example of racism. He should either be good enough on merit or not. His skin shouldn't have anything to do with it.My thoughts as well. Tom Flores was the first Hispanic coach to win a Super Bowl. He won two. Doug Williams was the first black quarterback to win a Super Bowl. He's not a HOFer. I just never understood him for HOF on his merits alone.Perhaps his TV gig helped him get a nod. He may very well be brighter that we know. Not that Dungy isn't worthy, but the NFL best be careful to make earning that award special and difficult. DeBartolo? GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by Elvis 9 years 5 months ago Total posts: 41540 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Greene and Pace make HOF, not Warner... POST #18 He built that TB defense that won a SB and was one of the best of all time and then won a SB in Indi.Everyone loves him.Maybe not the strongest resume but not hard to see how Dungy got in... RFU Season Ticket Holder by The Ripper 9 years 5 months ago Total posts: 494 Joined: May 13 2015 Naples, FL Starter Re: Greene and Pace make HOF, not Warner... POST #19 maxxx power wrote:moklerman wrote:azramsfan93 wrote:He was the first African-American coach to win a Super Bowl. History.If so, just another example of racism. He should either be good enough on merit or not. His skin shouldn't have anything to do with it.My thoughts as well. Tom Flores was the first Hispanic coach to win a Super Bowl. He won two. Doug Williams was the first black quarterback to win a Super Bowl. He's not a HOFer. I just never understood him for HOF on his merits alone.He transformed the Bucs into a playoff team and if it wasn't for Malcom Glazer he would have won a SB in Tampa. by moklerman 9 years 5 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Re: Greene and Pace make HOF, not Warner... POST #20 maxxx power wrote:moklerman wrote:azramsfan93 wrote:He was the first African-American coach to win a Super Bowl. History.If so, just another example of racism. He should either be good enough on merit or not. His skin shouldn't have anything to do with it.My thoughts as well. Tom Flores was the first Hispanic coach to win a Super Bowl. He won two. Doug Williams was the first black quarterback to win a Super Bowl. He's not a HOFer. I just never understood him for HOF on his merits alone.Flores is a damn shame. Regardless of skin color/ethnicity that guy should be in the HOF. The HOF is voted on by too many that feel they are bigger than who is being voted on. It isn't about who deserves to be in, it's who's behind the scenes greasing the skids. I still want Warner to get in but it won't be long before I don't even care. Their opinion means very little to me and the award/honor of getting in really doesn't mean anything either. Reply 2 / 4 1 2 4 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 33 posts Jul 18 2025
by maxxx power 9 years 5 months ago Total posts: 1016 Joined: Jan 13 2016 Norcal Pro Bowl Re: Greene and Pace make HOF, not Warner... POST #16 moklerman wrote:azramsfan93 wrote:maxxx power wrote:Can someone please help me understand why Dungy is a HOF coach? He won one Super Bowl. Lost one. Is Cowher a HOF coach?He had more wins than Dungy and also won a Super Bowl.I don't get it.He was the first African-American coach to win a Super Bowl. History.If so, just another example of racism. He should either be good enough on merit or not. His skin shouldn't have anything to do with it.My thoughts as well. Tom Flores was the first Hispanic coach to win a Super Bowl. He won two. Doug Williams was the first black quarterback to win a Super Bowl. He's not a HOFer. I just never understood him for HOF on his merits alone. Self-Appointed Rams Historian RFU Season Ticket Holder by Hacksaw 9 years 5 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: Greene and Pace make HOF, not Warner... POST #17 maxxx power wrote:moklerman wrote:azramsfan93 wrote:He was the first African-American coach to win a Super Bowl. History.If so, just another example of racism. He should either be good enough on merit or not. His skin shouldn't have anything to do with it.My thoughts as well. Tom Flores was the first Hispanic coach to win a Super Bowl. He won two. Doug Williams was the first black quarterback to win a Super Bowl. He's not a HOFer. I just never understood him for HOF on his merits alone.Perhaps his TV gig helped him get a nod. He may very well be brighter that we know. Not that Dungy isn't worthy, but the NFL best be careful to make earning that award special and difficult. DeBartolo? GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by Elvis 9 years 5 months ago Total posts: 41540 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Greene and Pace make HOF, not Warner... POST #18 He built that TB defense that won a SB and was one of the best of all time and then won a SB in Indi.Everyone loves him.Maybe not the strongest resume but not hard to see how Dungy got in... RFU Season Ticket Holder by The Ripper 9 years 5 months ago Total posts: 494 Joined: May 13 2015 Naples, FL Starter Re: Greene and Pace make HOF, not Warner... POST #19 maxxx power wrote:moklerman wrote:azramsfan93 wrote:He was the first African-American coach to win a Super Bowl. History.If so, just another example of racism. He should either be good enough on merit or not. His skin shouldn't have anything to do with it.My thoughts as well. Tom Flores was the first Hispanic coach to win a Super Bowl. He won two. Doug Williams was the first black quarterback to win a Super Bowl. He's not a HOFer. I just never understood him for HOF on his merits alone.He transformed the Bucs into a playoff team and if it wasn't for Malcom Glazer he would have won a SB in Tampa. by moklerman 9 years 5 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Re: Greene and Pace make HOF, not Warner... POST #20 maxxx power wrote:moklerman wrote:azramsfan93 wrote:He was the first African-American coach to win a Super Bowl. History.If so, just another example of racism. He should either be good enough on merit or not. His skin shouldn't have anything to do with it.My thoughts as well. Tom Flores was the first Hispanic coach to win a Super Bowl. He won two. Doug Williams was the first black quarterback to win a Super Bowl. He's not a HOFer. I just never understood him for HOF on his merits alone.Flores is a damn shame. Regardless of skin color/ethnicity that guy should be in the HOF. The HOF is voted on by too many that feel they are bigger than who is being voted on. It isn't about who deserves to be in, it's who's behind the scenes greasing the skids. I still want Warner to get in but it won't be long before I don't even care. Their opinion means very little to me and the award/honor of getting in really doesn't mean anything either. Reply 2 / 4 1 2 4 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 33 posts Jul 18 2025
by Hacksaw 9 years 5 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: Greene and Pace make HOF, not Warner... POST #17 maxxx power wrote:moklerman wrote:azramsfan93 wrote:He was the first African-American coach to win a Super Bowl. History.If so, just another example of racism. He should either be good enough on merit or not. His skin shouldn't have anything to do with it.My thoughts as well. Tom Flores was the first Hispanic coach to win a Super Bowl. He won two. Doug Williams was the first black quarterback to win a Super Bowl. He's not a HOFer. I just never understood him for HOF on his merits alone.Perhaps his TV gig helped him get a nod. He may very well be brighter that we know. Not that Dungy isn't worthy, but the NFL best be careful to make earning that award special and difficult. DeBartolo? GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by Elvis 9 years 5 months ago Total posts: 41540 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Greene and Pace make HOF, not Warner... POST #18 He built that TB defense that won a SB and was one of the best of all time and then won a SB in Indi.Everyone loves him.Maybe not the strongest resume but not hard to see how Dungy got in... RFU Season Ticket Holder by The Ripper 9 years 5 months ago Total posts: 494 Joined: May 13 2015 Naples, FL Starter Re: Greene and Pace make HOF, not Warner... POST #19 maxxx power wrote:moklerman wrote:azramsfan93 wrote:He was the first African-American coach to win a Super Bowl. History.If so, just another example of racism. He should either be good enough on merit or not. His skin shouldn't have anything to do with it.My thoughts as well. Tom Flores was the first Hispanic coach to win a Super Bowl. He won two. Doug Williams was the first black quarterback to win a Super Bowl. He's not a HOFer. I just never understood him for HOF on his merits alone.He transformed the Bucs into a playoff team and if it wasn't for Malcom Glazer he would have won a SB in Tampa. by moklerman 9 years 5 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Re: Greene and Pace make HOF, not Warner... POST #20 maxxx power wrote:moklerman wrote:azramsfan93 wrote:He was the first African-American coach to win a Super Bowl. History.If so, just another example of racism. He should either be good enough on merit or not. His skin shouldn't have anything to do with it.My thoughts as well. Tom Flores was the first Hispanic coach to win a Super Bowl. He won two. Doug Williams was the first black quarterback to win a Super Bowl. He's not a HOFer. I just never understood him for HOF on his merits alone.Flores is a damn shame. Regardless of skin color/ethnicity that guy should be in the HOF. The HOF is voted on by too many that feel they are bigger than who is being voted on. It isn't about who deserves to be in, it's who's behind the scenes greasing the skids. I still want Warner to get in but it won't be long before I don't even care. Their opinion means very little to me and the award/honor of getting in really doesn't mean anything either. Reply 2 / 4 1 2 4 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 33 posts Jul 18 2025
by Elvis 9 years 5 months ago Total posts: 41540 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Greene and Pace make HOF, not Warner... POST #18 He built that TB defense that won a SB and was one of the best of all time and then won a SB in Indi.Everyone loves him.Maybe not the strongest resume but not hard to see how Dungy got in... RFU Season Ticket Holder by The Ripper 9 years 5 months ago Total posts: 494 Joined: May 13 2015 Naples, FL Starter Re: Greene and Pace make HOF, not Warner... POST #19 maxxx power wrote:moklerman wrote:azramsfan93 wrote:He was the first African-American coach to win a Super Bowl. History.If so, just another example of racism. He should either be good enough on merit or not. His skin shouldn't have anything to do with it.My thoughts as well. Tom Flores was the first Hispanic coach to win a Super Bowl. He won two. Doug Williams was the first black quarterback to win a Super Bowl. He's not a HOFer. I just never understood him for HOF on his merits alone.He transformed the Bucs into a playoff team and if it wasn't for Malcom Glazer he would have won a SB in Tampa. by moklerman 9 years 5 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Re: Greene and Pace make HOF, not Warner... POST #20 maxxx power wrote:moklerman wrote:azramsfan93 wrote:He was the first African-American coach to win a Super Bowl. History.If so, just another example of racism. He should either be good enough on merit or not. His skin shouldn't have anything to do with it.My thoughts as well. Tom Flores was the first Hispanic coach to win a Super Bowl. He won two. Doug Williams was the first black quarterback to win a Super Bowl. He's not a HOFer. I just never understood him for HOF on his merits alone.Flores is a damn shame. Regardless of skin color/ethnicity that guy should be in the HOF. The HOF is voted on by too many that feel they are bigger than who is being voted on. It isn't about who deserves to be in, it's who's behind the scenes greasing the skids. I still want Warner to get in but it won't be long before I don't even care. Their opinion means very little to me and the award/honor of getting in really doesn't mean anything either. Reply 2 / 4 1 2 4 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 33 posts Jul 18 2025
by The Ripper 9 years 5 months ago Total posts: 494 Joined: May 13 2015 Naples, FL Starter Re: Greene and Pace make HOF, not Warner... POST #19 maxxx power wrote:moklerman wrote:azramsfan93 wrote:He was the first African-American coach to win a Super Bowl. History.If so, just another example of racism. He should either be good enough on merit or not. His skin shouldn't have anything to do with it.My thoughts as well. Tom Flores was the first Hispanic coach to win a Super Bowl. He won two. Doug Williams was the first black quarterback to win a Super Bowl. He's not a HOFer. I just never understood him for HOF on his merits alone.He transformed the Bucs into a playoff team and if it wasn't for Malcom Glazer he would have won a SB in Tampa. by moklerman 9 years 5 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Re: Greene and Pace make HOF, not Warner... POST #20 maxxx power wrote:moklerman wrote:azramsfan93 wrote:He was the first African-American coach to win a Super Bowl. History.If so, just another example of racism. He should either be good enough on merit or not. His skin shouldn't have anything to do with it.My thoughts as well. Tom Flores was the first Hispanic coach to win a Super Bowl. He won two. Doug Williams was the first black quarterback to win a Super Bowl. He's not a HOFer. I just never understood him for HOF on his merits alone.Flores is a damn shame. Regardless of skin color/ethnicity that guy should be in the HOF. The HOF is voted on by too many that feel they are bigger than who is being voted on. It isn't about who deserves to be in, it's who's behind the scenes greasing the skids. I still want Warner to get in but it won't be long before I don't even care. Their opinion means very little to me and the award/honor of getting in really doesn't mean anything either. Reply 2 / 4 1 2 4 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 33 posts Jul 18 2025
by moklerman 9 years 5 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Re: Greene and Pace make HOF, not Warner... POST #20 maxxx power wrote:moklerman wrote:azramsfan93 wrote:He was the first African-American coach to win a Super Bowl. History.If so, just another example of racism. He should either be good enough on merit or not. His skin shouldn't have anything to do with it.My thoughts as well. Tom Flores was the first Hispanic coach to win a Super Bowl. He won two. Doug Williams was the first black quarterback to win a Super Bowl. He's not a HOFer. I just never understood him for HOF on his merits alone.Flores is a damn shame. Regardless of skin color/ethnicity that guy should be in the HOF. The HOF is voted on by too many that feel they are bigger than who is being voted on. It isn't about who deserves to be in, it's who's behind the scenes greasing the skids. I still want Warner to get in but it won't be long before I don't even care. Their opinion means very little to me and the award/honor of getting in really doesn't mean anything either. Reply 2 / 4 1 2 4 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business