64 posts
  • 2 / 7
  • 1
  • 2
  • 7
 by /zn/
1 year 9 months ago
 Total posts:   6948  
 Joined:  Jun 28 2015
United States of America   Maine
Hall of Fame

PARAM wrote:They like to acquire talent so I could see them doing almost anyrhing. But....who gets rid of a "young'" edge player? And I could be wrong but they went edge 3 times in the draft and hit on one already. So I don't think they 'll make a move there until they know about Mathis.


That's the thing. People talk about acquiring a good young edge rusher as if those are available and get traded regularly. No. One. Does. That.

In terms of the pass rush (not just edge) the Rams have 3 promising rookies--Young, Turner, and Mathis. As I said in another post, when was the last time they had 3 promising rookie pass rushers?

The problem being that for the most part, historically, with some rare exceptions, pass rushers are seldom that productive as rookies.

Now imagine a team with issues rushing the passer offers to trade for Young. Would the Rams be up for that? Not unless it's a big offer they can't turn down. Now of course...reverse that equation. Who gets rid of a young pass rusher unless it's for very high compensation.

....

 by Elvis
1 year 9 months ago
 Total posts:   41552  
 Joined:  Mar 28 2015
United States of America   Los Angeles
Administrator

It's got to be for someone like Burns on the last year of their deal who doesn't figure to be back, and even then, probably won't be a very good deal for the Rams since he's likely to bring in a pretty nice comp pick if he walks in FA...

 by /zn/
1 year 9 months ago
 Total posts:   6948  
 Joined:  Jun 28 2015
United States of America   Maine
Hall of Fame

Elvis wrote:It's got to be for someone like Burns on the last year of their deal who doesn't figure to be back, and even then, probably won't be a very good deal for the Rams since he's likely to bring in a pretty nice comp pick if he walks in FA...


In which case he is a possible FA signing in the Rams' 2024 "target year." While at the same time preserving the 2024 high draft picks.

I am not exactly sure how a few people forget that 2023 was sacrificed for the benefit of 2024. Even as it stands they are far better and much further down the road than most if not all of us were expecting in August. So why would the Rams disrupt the plan and throw away 2024 picks for a player now.

 by actionjack
1 year 9 months ago
 Total posts:   5202  
 Joined:  May 19 2016
United States of America   Sactown
Hall of Fame

/zn/ wrote:In which case he is a possible FA signing in the Rams' 2024 "target year." While at the same time preserving the 2024 high draft picks.

I am not exactly sure how a few people forget that 2023 was sacrificed for the benefit of 2024. Even as it stands they are far better and much further down the road than most if not all of us were expecting in August. So why would the Rams disrupt the plan and throw away 2024 picks for a player now.


1. They will be competing with other teams.
2. It could vault them into the playoffs this year.

 by PARAM
1 year 9 months ago
 Total posts:   13228  
 Joined:  Jul 15 2015
Barbados   Just far enough North of Philadelphia
Hall of Fame

actionjack wrote:1. They will be competing with other teams.
2. It could vault them into the playoffs this year.


I understand the viewpoint you and others who desire a trade for a pass rusher express. My take is if it put us in the SB conversation.....not just the chance because we're in the postseason and could get there if we get every bounce, questionable call and a number of players have a great postseason.....then fine. But that pick or picks we trade could be used for any number of needs in the 2024 draft. And we might still make the postseason anyway.....right now there are 5 teams with 1 loss or less and 3 others at 3-2 in the NFC. We're right in the postseason hunt as we speak. Not to mention we may have 2 very good pass rushers on our roster RIGHT NOW but we don't know just yet.

 by Elvis
1 year 9 months ago
 Total posts:   41552  
 Joined:  Mar 28 2015
United States of America   Los Angeles
Administrator

/zn/ wrote:I am not exactly sure how a few people forget that 2023 was sacrificed for the benefit of 2024. Even as it stands they are far better and much further down the road than most if not all of us were expecting in August. So why would the Rams disrupt the plan and throw away 2024 picks for a player now.


I know i might be a bit of a conspiracist on this but i'm not sure i buy the premise entirely. It also seems to me like the Rams really don't want to spend cash right now, but again, i could easily be wrong.

As for the 2nd part, if the Rams could get someone like Burns and extend him that would help in both the long and short run which could be consistent with their plan, but that would cost money now...

 by actionjack
1 year 9 months ago
 Total posts:   5202  
 Joined:  May 19 2016
United States of America   Sactown
Hall of Fame

PARAM wrote:I understand the viewpoint you and others who desire a trade for a pass rusher express. My take is if it put us in the SB conversation.....not just the chance because we're in the postseason and could get there if we get every bounce, questionable call and a number of players have a great postseason.....then fine. But that pick or picks we trade could be used for any number of needs in the 2024 draft. And we might still make the postseason anyway.....right now there are 5 teams with 1 loss or less and 3 others at 3-2 in the NFC. We're right in the postseason hunt as we speak. Not to mention we may have 2 very good pass rushers on our roster RIGHT NOW but we don't know just yet.


I completely agree with your viewpoint except for one thing.... Matthew Stafford. We are already somewhat wasting one of his few remaining years this year. How many more seasons do we have a top 10 QB Stafford, another 2-3 seasons? Not sure the Rams can just wait for guys to possibly develop. The window really starts next year (maybe this year with some moves).

 by PARAM
1 year 9 months ago
 Total posts:   13228  
 Joined:  Jul 15 2015
Barbados   Just far enough North of Philadelphia
Hall of Fame

Elvis wrote:I know i might be a bit of a conspiracist on this but i'm not sure i buy the premise entirely. It also seems to me like the Rams really don't want to spend cash right now, but again, i could easily be wrong.

As for the 2nd part, if the Rams could get someone like Burns and extend him that would help in both the long and short run which could be consistent with their plan, but that would cost money now...


They could also be thinking who can we get right now that will put us on par with SF and Philly? The answer is >>>> no 1 player. I agree a guy like Burns, if extended would also be for the future. Maybe that 1st rounder they have in the bank for next year is something they have plans for. All the talk during the offseason purge was "CALEB!!!" but maybe they're figuring FASHANU or ALT could be had with a trade up in the first round. And what better way to trade up than with a first round pick? Imagine Stafford, with Kupp, Puka and Tutu getting the time Hurts got Sunday? Might break the all time record for PPG in a season!!

 by /zn/
1 year 9 months ago
 Total posts:   6948  
 Joined:  Jun 28 2015
United States of America   Maine
Hall of Fame

actionjack wrote:1. They will be competing with other teams.
2. It could vault them into the playoffs this year.


The plan though is set things up for 2024 when they will be a far stronger, more experienced team with the draft and cap resources to take it even higher. I don't see a good reason to abandon the plan and to waste 2024 resources now.

They sacrificed 2023 for 2024 and even given that are doing far better than expected.

 by ramsman34
1 year 9 months ago
 Total posts:   10041  
 Joined:  Apr 16 2015
United States of America   Back in LA baby!
Moderator

It’s the cash the draft capital being able to sign said edge to contract extension, is adding just an edge enough to beat the elite????

They also need a big interior DL or 2, increased development at almost every spot in the secondary, depth at LT that can actually play at a fairly high level.

They need ALL that if they want to compete at the elite level. Otherwise this is a .500 team that could get to 10 wins and maybe a WC berth.

Enjoy watching g the development and keep your expectations realistic is my thought. I dont see any major trades coming this season.

  • 2 / 7
  • 1
  • 2
  • 7
64 posts Jul 22 2025