[Hacksaw]

sorry Hack, i need to be schooled on how to quote properly.. i saw "the hags" (line 2), and it made me cringe

Haha. Hags make me cringe too. Gak

[Hacksaw]

How about this guy? Wouldn't it be ironic after all these years? But as Staffords backup..

The second overall pick in the 2012 draft hasn’t played in the league since 2020 and now serves as one of ESPN’s main personalities for College Football and the NFL. Nonetheless, he is still training each and every day in the hope a call will come his way.

“I am ready to go right now,” Griffin told Christopher Williams of KWTX. “I train every day. I throw and work out. I know what it takes to get my body ready and I am doing those things. Yes, it is a little bit tougher when you are flying around everywhere doing stuff for TV, but when you really want something, you make it work. So, if I get that call this year, next year, or five years from now, I will be ready to play.”

Don’t forget, RG3 just ran an unofficial 4.48 40-yard dash at Rich Eisen’s charity event. that would make him one of the fastest NFL quarterbacks in the league right now.

Griffin last served as Lamar Jackson’s backup on the Baltimore Ravens but they waived him in January of last year. While a starting role is highly unlikely, getting a training camp roster spot is possible where he’d then be able to fight for a potential second or third-string role.

At this point, Robert Griffin III is probably making more money on TV, but his love for the game has never wavered. He’s still determined to make an NFL comeback, no matter how hard the road is. Will anyone give him an opportunity? Only time will tell.

https://www.laramsnews.com/robert-griff ... fl-return/

[Joe Pendleton]

i always liked this cat, i hope he gets another shot

[Hacksaw]

We need a better backup than Wolford. Perkins doesn't have RGIII's arm. Hope we kick the tires.

[Elvis]

McVay decided he couldn't win a SB with Jared Goff and traded for Stafford.

The majority of SBs are won by teams with HOF caliber QBs like Stafford, Mahomes, Brady (to name the last 3).

So i'd argue people are looking at the backup situation wrong. If you have a stud you can win a SB with, you're pretty much screwed if he goes down. Why pretend otherwise?

We see coaches like Martz, Payton, now McVay who value smarts in their backup QB as much as anything else. They want another coach caliber mind in the mix, someone who understands the offense and who can come in and win a game or two if they have to. Wolford beat AZ in an important game in 2020. He's not a starter but so what? That's not the gig.

Yeah you get the occasional Nick Foles or Jeff Hostetler, a savvy vet with starting experience who comes in and wins a SB. But that's the exception, not the rule.

And then you have Warner or Brady who were backups that turned out to be HOF QBs but they weren't considered quality backups at the time they were pressed into action.

Just another reason the conventional way of looking at this is probably wrong...

[FMulder]

McVay decided he couldn't win a SB with Jared Goff and traded for Stafford.

The majority of SBs are won by teams with HOF caliber QBs like Stafford, Mahomes, Brady (to name the last 3).

So i'd argue people are looking at the backup situation wrong. If you have a stud you can win a SB with, you're pretty much screwed if he goes down. Why pretend otherwise?

We see coaches like Martz, Payton, now McVay who value smarts in their backup QB as much as anything else. They want another coach caliber mind in the mix, someone who understands the offense and who can come in and win a game or two if they have to. Wolford beat AZ in an important game in 2020. He's not a starter but so what? That's not the gig.

Yeah you get the occasional Nick Foles or Jeff Hostetler, a savvy vet with starting experience who comes in and wins a SB. But that's the exception, not the rule.

And then you have Warner or Brady who were backups that turned out to be HOF QBs but they weren't considered quality backups at the time they were pressed into action.

Just another reason the conventional way of looking at this is probably wrong...

I agree with this in concept Elvis, but my issue is that the backup can be all the things you said with their limitations or unreal expectations if your star starter goes down, but you can still be excited about the backup’s potential, whether due to inexperience, or just further development. There can be something there that elevates them. That’s why some backups get starting gigs elsewhere.

Unfortunately, who we have might know the offense, but his ceiling is what it is, and that’s not saying much. Obviously I hope we never need him, except for mop up duty, but I hope this is his last year with the team unless I see things from him I haven’t so far

[Hacksaw]

I go further and say that the majority of teams that won the Super Bowl were also healthy teams or at least deep.

Warner and Ferragamo got us into superbowls so I still believe having a stud backup is important for that quality depth at the most important position.
I've seen little in Wolfords game to feel we'd have a prayer if Stafford goes down. That's putting way too much importance on one player's health. It's the money that probably prohibits it. However a guy like RG3 trying to get back in the league probably won't command much money.
I cannot imagine any of the 52 feeling any differently other than Wolford and Perkins of course.
If he still can clock a 4.43 and can still sling it, I think they should kick the tires.

[Ramsdude]

So i'd argue people are looking at the backup situation wrong. If you have a stud you can win a SB with, you're pretty much screwed if he goes down. Why pretend otherwise?

Wolford beat AZ in an important game in 2020.

It doesn't have anything to do with "pretending" Elvis. You may be correct about being "screwed" if the starter goes down but that doesn't mean you shouldn't try to have the "best" backup QB possible. IMO, we can do better than The Wolf without really even trying to hard. In fact, I will say I think Perkins is the better choice just based on his potential.

The Wolf has hit his ceiling, Perkins has not. We have a great offensive minded HC who should be able to do wonders with Perkins or someone else.

I keep reading "Wolford beat AZ in an important game in 2020." but...did he really win it? Was he the reason we won or was it the lights out D we had or maybe the fact that we "OWN" AZ had something to do with it too?

IMO, our D won that game. The Wolf didn't do anything that would be deserving of him getting the credit for the win. AZ was not prepared for the Wolf. That also played into his favor.

The next game against a better team and a better D that was "prepared" for the Wolf told a much different story. His lack luster showing again last season also tells us a lot about what he is and what he isn't.

The Wolf needs to "compete" for the spot and not be gifted the job like last year. If he earns it...great. If not, we move on. This cat is living off of his 70 minutes of NFL playing time for too long now. His 15 minutes of fame are up!

[Hacksaw]

You may be correct about being "screwed" if the starter goes down but that doesn't mean you shouldn't try to have the "best" backup QB possible. IMO, we can do better than The Wolf without really even trying to hard.

100%

[Elvis]

It doesn't have anything to do with "pretending" Elvis. You may be correct about being "screwed" if the starter goes down but that doesn't mean you shouldn't try to have the "best" backup QB possible.

That's the rub. What defines the best backup possible?

You're dead set that it has to be whoever can play QB the best if called upon but i'm saying that's not the only way of looking at it and your way might even be wrong.

Maybe it's the player who runs the scout team the best, understands the offense the best, helps the starter the most? After all what is the backup's job when the starter is playing? Maybe being good at that is more important? A lot of really good offensive coaches approach it that way including Sean McVay who just won a SB with Wolford as the backup. Who did Peyton Manning ever have as a backup? Drew Brees?

Since in most cases you need an HOF caliber QB to win the SB and are screwed if he goes down for an extended amount of time, maybe other qualities in your backup give you the best chance to win a SB?

It seems like a lot of smart coaches are looking at it that way and i'm inclined to think they're right...