[actionjack]

lol. That is funny.

https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=ht ... egUIARDQAQ

[three rolled tacos]

Maybe some aren't convinced enough of his pedigree. Like McCarthy he's had the benefit of coaching a Hall of Fame quarterback. How will he do when Aaron Rogers retires? The one game he coached without Rogers they scored 7 points and lost.

In 2017 Rogers missed 9 games with McCarthy as coach. They went 7-9. McCarthy won 12 games this year so I supposed he showed he can win. But they sure shit the bed in the one playoff game. The jury is still out on LaFluer.

LeFluer has had the benefit of having Rodger and Adams -- two for sure HoF players. I agree it may take a SB run before they poach his assistants. But that's not hopefully happen this year. McCarthy has one task as the Cowboys' coach and that is to game manage. As we saw on Sunday, he can't even do that correctly.

It is pretty interesting to see that McVay, LaFleur, Taylor and Staley are all relatively young as well as Shanahan, so they're going to be the future (along with McDermott in Buffalo) as the coaches that will proceed Reid, Belichick, Harbaugh and Tomlin as the next generation of HCs to run the sport it seems.

[RedAlice]

I keep wanting taquitos when you post.

[Hacksaw]

3 tacos and a reposado margarita rocks please.

[BobCarl]

Either Jon Gruden or Shanahan.

Maybe the McVay tree starts with Sean's grandfather, John McVay, who has FIVE Superbowl rings.

[Hacksaw]

They're all off the Jim Thorpe tree eh?

[snackdaddy]

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/258 ... ching-tree

[Elvis]

[PARAM]

Wanted to revisit this thread/concept.

I don't consider Matt LaFleur part of the McVay coaching tree. They were together in Washington with Shanahan under Shanahan senior. So the Kyle Shanahan tree and McVay tree are branches of the Mike Shanahan tree. Having said that.....

Why is it, even without considering LaFleur under the McVay tree, there are more offensive head coaches from McVay than from Shanahan? Zac Taylor, Kevin O'Connell (both successful), from McVay, while McDanial is the only former Shanahan offensive assistant to get a head gig?

Defensive guys Brandon Staley and Raheem Morris from McVay; Robert Saleh and Demeco Ryans from Shanahan.

Then there are former offensive assistants who've worked as OC's like Zac Robinson, Thomas Brown, Liam Coen from McVay and Slovik from Shanahan. A lot more offense from McVay than Shanahan.

The history?

McVay 8 years; 80-51, 1 losing season, 6 postseasons, 5 10-win seasons, 4 Division titles, 2 CCG wins, 1 SB win
Shanahan 8 years; 70-61, 4 losing seasons, 4 postseasons, 4 10-win seasons, 3 Division titles, 2 CCG wins
LaFleur 6 years; 67-32, 1 losing season, 5 postseasons, 4 10-win seasons, 3 Division titles

**Taylor 6 years; 45-52-1, 2 losing seasons, 2 postseasons, 2 10-win seasons, 2 Division titles, 1 CCG win
O'Connell 3 years; 34-16, 1 losing season, 2 postseasons, 2 10-win seasons, 1 Division title*
McDanial 3 years; 28-22, 0 losing seasons, 2 postseasons, 1 10-win season

**Taylor took over a shit team and had 2 losing seasons. The last 4 years he's 39-27.

I'm not saying Shanahan sucks, he doesn't. He is a very good head coach. But it's odd he's only spawned 1 offensive guy in 8 years. McVay only has 2 but he's got more in the wings too. And indirectly, Callahan (Tennessee) came from Taylor who came from McVay. Wes Phillips is the current Minnesota OC, another from McVay. Is McVay a better teacher of coaches?

[Elvis]

Most of these coaches are from Mike Shanahan's Washington staff. They were all really young and most have turned out pretty great.

I don't think it's too radical anymore to say offensive HCs are better in today's NFL. So that's a big part of what we're seeing...