[laram]

[email protected]
date: Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 5:30 PM
subject: Stan Kroenke
mailed-by: gmail.com

Fred,

You have made the point over the last couple of days that you shut me down on. That Stan Kroenke doesn't lose and that most organizations anticipate outcomes. I asked you if you thought that Stan would go this far, and spend this much money to get the Rams to LA. You essentially shut me down by saying that in fairness, he was also building another development on the site.

Yes, that is correct, but haven't you been saying the whole time that their mantra was..."we're building a stadium no matter what"?

That's stadium, not we're building no matter what. So if you had let me get to my point and followed along, I would have shared with you that Stan had a meeting with Roger Goodell before he bought the land. Goodell confirmed it but said there was no plans for a stadium.

He was being less than candid.

It was all calculated from the very beginning, thus he knew something as I implied. I know this for a fact because my longtime attorney is a close friend and mentor of Stan's.

If you refer back to my email that you read on air, I said that "after the NFL discovered my affiliations, I was only allowed to participate as a spectator".

Everything ties together, doesn't it.

This is not for on air consumption, we will keep it between us.

Best,


Thanks for that note.. Fascinating and confirms much of what we've been saying.. How much of it can I read? Would you like to be anonymous or can I use your name. We truly appreciate you sharing this.

Fred
Sent from Freds iPhone

[azramsfan93]

Reported by roggon tonight : Goldman Sacks is out as the financier for the Chargers.."It's Carson, or nothing"

That tells me Deano's only option is to be Stan's tenant at the palace in Inglewood.

I never dreamed this would end up this good.

I sure hope that the Chargers stay in San Diego. They are good fans and they deserve their team. LA does NOT want the Chargers.

[aeneas1]

fred has to be one of the most agile sports talking heads, has zero difficulty reaching around to give himself multiple pats on the back...

You have no idea how true that statement is.

I should share some emails here.

Some know that he used me as a resource for his stories, then hedged his bet.

He's attempting to give credit now, only after he back peddled.

To little to late IMO.

i can relate... in the late '90s, just prior to the gsot days, i put together a spreadsheet that showed winning percentages and w/l records for teams when they lost the turnover battle, dating back a decade, shared the info with a well known writer from the sporting news, who i had exchanged emails with over some bad facts he had published in an article earlier that year, seemed like a nice enough guy given he wasn't defensive when i brought the errors to his attention, was very receptive...

anyway, unsolicited, i decided to send him the turnover stats right before the first round of the postseason games that year, he loved them, included them at length in a postseason article he published. after the first round was over he actually called me to ask if i would update them to include the games that just ended for a piece he was going to do on the divisional rounds, and i happily did so. in fact he emailed me several times to ask questions and get clarification after i sent him the updated numbers...

during the divisional rounds i was watching a game and a graphics came up after a lost fumble, it was a team's winning percentage when -1 in turnovers dating back 10 years, couldn't believe it, i had never seen this type of graphic before, or a reference made to turnovers and wins/losses during a game... i emailed the guy to ask if he had something to do with the announcers getting that info, he never responded... emailed him a few more times during the next couple of weeks, nothing, never heard from the guy again, ha ha...

[Elvis]

Super cool laram. I kind of figured when i heard Fred talking about insiders, you were one of them.

If you can write up as much of your experience as you can, i'm sure it would be a great read for all of us...

[Stranger]

fred has to be one of the most agile sports talking heads, has zero difficulty reaching around to give himself multiple pats on the back...

You have no idea how true that statement is.

I should share some emails here.

Some know that he used me as a resource for his stories, then hedged his bet.

He's attempting to give credit now, only after he back peddled.

To little to late IMO.

i can relate... in the late '90s, just prior to the gsot days, i put together a spreadsheet that showed winning percentages and w/l records for teams when they lost the turnover battle, dating back a decade, shared the info with a well known writer from the sporting news, who i had exchanged emails with over some bad facts he had published in an article earlier that year, seemed like a nice enough guy given he wasn't defensive when i brought the errors to his attention, was very receptive...

anyway, unsolicited, i decided to send him the turnover stats right before the first round of the postseason games that year, he loved them, included them at length in a postseason article he published. after the first round was over he actually called me to ask if i would update them to include the games that just ended for a piece he was going to do on the divisional rounds, and i happily did so. in fact he emailed me several times to ask questions and get clarification after i sent him the updated numbers...

during the divisional rounds i was watching a game and a graphics came up after a lost fumble, it was a team's winning percentage when -1 in turnovers dating back 10 years, couldn't believe it, i had never seen this type of graphic before, or a reference made to turnovers and wins/losses during a game... i emailed the guy to ask if he had something to do with the announcers getting that info, he never responded... emailed him a few more times during the next couple of weeks, nothing, never heard from the guy again, ha ha...

Well, everyone of your incredibly informative statistical posts are incredibly appreciated here. And if one of us decides to steal your work, we'll at least continue to correspond with you

Who needs journalists vying for self-promotion when we have such a dedicated collective of fans here

[Elvis]

Wait, Aeneas1 invented correlating wins and losses to turnovers?

Sweet.

[Elvis]

It's amazing how Fred manages to be insufferable and indispensable at the same time.

Some good stuff on today's show but he also did like an hour straight on how he was right about everything, how he never wavered.

And then Mayor Butts came on and said he knew he had the best project but he was really worried they could lose because of politics. That's what a lot of us thought/feared. How did we come to that position? Well one of the people telling us Carson could win was Fred Roggin.

I give Fred a ton of credit for covering this story when on one else did. He did a ton of work on it and got it pretty much 100% right.

But he's also unbearably self-serving and full of crap.

It's weird...

[RamsFanSince82]

Reported by roggon tonight : Goldman Sacks is out as the financier for the Chargers.."It's Carson, or nothing"

That's true, but he said that the Chargers are trying to work something out with another company. I can't recall the name of the company, but he said that he imagined that the Rams are using the same company.

[Stranger]

Interview with Chris Meany, with HOllywood Park Company during the beginning of Hour 1, was excellent. Well worth the listen
http://download.podcast.play.it/media/d ... ALGN_3.MP3

[max]

It's amazing how Fred manages to be insufferable and indispensable at the same time.

Some good stuff on today's show but he also did like an hour straight on how he was right about everything, how he never wavered.

And then Mayor Butts came on and said he knew he had the best project but he was really worried they could lose because of politics. That's what a lot of us thought/feared. How did we come to that position? Well one of the people telling us Carson could win was Fred Roggin.

I give Fred a ton of credit for covering this story when on one else did. He did a ton of work on it and got it pretty much 100% right.

But he's also unbearably self-serving and full of crap.

It's weird...

Nice job of telling it like it is.