[bluecoconuts]

Robles was on Fred today really throwing the Charaiders under the bus...

Might be worth a listen then..

[TSFH Fan]

Robles was on Fred today really throwing the Charaiders under the bus...

Thanks for this tip.

Now, I don't get it. The release/Robles saying Carson remains ready as a backup and then Robles lights up the Charaiders (the same day?)??

Some stuff from the interview:

Robles wasn't looped in, sounds envious talking how much Butts was looped in with Kroenke.

Tweaked that no one gave any thanks to Carson. "Quote, unquote 'Partners' in this venture"

Robles: "You could say that we were bamboozled, you could argue we were deceived, you could say that we were manipulated . . ."

Fred: "Did you believe to the very end?" . . .
Robles: "I got more information from you than I got from my partners! . . .
They never liked me coming on your show."
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Got his hands slapped more often than once for things said on Fred's show.
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Robles: "I was shut out of the process"
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Robles: "Quote, unquote 'partners'" . . .
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Fred: [talking about Robles answering Fred's questions about the Carson project last year] "I think what it was doing, was ruining their illusion"

Robles: "Well, I, I, I wish, Fred, I could make an unequivocal statement and provide you with some reference or documentation to prove you wrong, but I can't, I just can't"

[Stranger]

Robles was on Fred today really throwing the Charaiders under the bus...

Thanks for this tip.

Now, I don't get it. The release/Robles saying Carson remains ready as a backup and then Robles lights up the Charaiders (the same day?)??

Some stuff from the interview:

Robles wasn't looped in, sounds envious talking how much Butts was looped in with Kroenke.

Tweaked that no one gave any thanks to Carson. "Quote, unquote 'Partners' in this venture"

Robles: "You could say that we were bamboozled, you could argue we were deceived, you could say that we were manipulated . . ."

Fred: "Did you believe to the very end?" . . .
Robles: "I got more information from you than I got from my partners! . . .
They never liked me coming on your show."
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Got his hands slapped more often than once for things said on Fred's show.
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Robles: "I was shut out of the process"
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Robles: "Quote, unquote 'partners'" . . .
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Fred: [talking about Robles answering Fred's questions about the Carson project last year] "I think what it was doing, was ruining their illusion"

Robles: "Well, I, I, I wish, Fred, I could make an unequivocal statement and provide you with some reference or documentation to prove you wrong, but I can't, I just can't"

That interview was beyond revealing. Everyone should listen. It was during hour 1 today.

[sloramfan]

i made a few statements on RRF about "knowing" the outcome because developers can see things progressing where media/fans can be decieved...
more than once, i tried to tell the good fans of stl this has to be a done deal, due to the progress kroenke was moving at alone...
it was so obvious to me that carson was smoke and mirrors all along, yet when i tried to sway their assumptions, their reply was always, "you can't see this is real?"
when carson NEVER had plans or permits, and was only cartoons/videos, and then the policy joke,followed by the biggest farce, that was iger, i stood fast, knowing developing in california is no walk in the park. kroenke was running through that park, with hair on fire!
stan was putting a lot(in fact too much) legwork into the inglewood project, for ANY developer to have reason not to believe this was a done deal, long before any "vote" was to take place..
i actually felt bad for the good guys at RRF, as many were duped into believing the "story" as it unfolded...
kinda reminds me of looking for a tool that's needed "right now"...you're looking right at it in your job box, but can't see it...lol...it's happened to me more than once...

i can't wait to buy tickets..

go rams

slo

[bubbaramfan]

I listened. I went to the Carson Townhall meeting. When they wouldn't answer questions about the landfill remdiation and who was going to pay for it and how, and then Policy running out the back door, I know that stadium was a sham. Robles didn't know squat, the whole thing was like a high school pep rally, Rah! Rah! Rah! go Carson, but no info.
I called 980 and talked to Fred Roggin off the air, told him what I saw going on and the history of the Carson landfill as I knewit over the last 55 years. The thaousands of toxic 55 gallon barrels, the hospital waste, the methane plumes. The pump trucks that come in and pump up the sludge that oozes up every week into pools.
Robles did say that the landfill site reverts to the city of Carson in April. I'll keep everyone posted, but my gut tell me that land will just sit there undeveloped another 50 years.

[Stranger]

I listened. I went to the Carson Townhall meeting. When they wouldn't answer questions about the landfill remdiation and who was going to pay for it and how, and then Policy running out the back door, I know that stadium was a sham. Robles didn't know squat, the whole thing was like a high school pep rally, Rah! Rah! Rah! go Carson, but no info.
I called 980 and talked to Fred Roggin off the air, told him what I saw going on and the history of the Carson landfill as I knewit over the last 55 years. The thaousands of toxic 55 gallon barrels, the hospital waste, the methane plumes. The pump trucks that come in and pump up the sludge that oozes up every week into pools.
Robles did say that the landfill site reverts to the city of Carson in April. I'll keep everyone posted, but my gut tell me that land will just sit there undeveloped another 50 years.

I certainly don't know the backstory like you do, but I felt really bad listening to Robles on Fred's show yesterday. Should I? Do you think Robles was duped, or was a willing participant or opportunist? What do u think?

PS. Really glad to hear that you were one of the insiders feeding Fred info. It sounds like he was really listening. And not sure if you heard it, but Fred did thank all of the behind the scenes players who fed him info. I know the guy toots his own horn, but he was not shy about giving credit out.

[bubbaramfan]

I went to the Carson town hall meeting early and got to talk to Mayor Robles for about 10 minutes outside before it started. I asked him about the remediation and the plans for the cleanup. He didn't even know what I was talking about. He acted like it was the first time he heard of toxic 55 gallon drums and hospital waste. He only knew about the methane wells. So yeah, I think he was duped. He sure wasn't told of the extent of the problem. I asked him what the EPA and the Calif. State Board of Health had to say. He said he had never talked to them, Goldman Sachs would take care of that.

Fred Roggin told me he would back check my info with those agencies, but he didn't want to bring all that up on the air just yet, lets see how this plays out. bringing the EPA and the Board of Health into the mix might not be such a good idea just yet. Guess now he didn't have to.

[Pancake]

I don't think Robles was duped. I think he is playing dumb to cover his own ass. How can the Mayor of Carson not know the extent of toxic pollution on the Carson site? Even if he didn't know up front he certainly had to of heard the rumblings and you would think looked into it.

[Hacksaw]

I don't think Robles was duped. I think he is playing dumb to cover his own ass. How can the Mayor of Carson not know the extent of toxic pollution on the Carson site? Even if he didn't know up front he certainly had to of heard the rumblings and you would think looked into it.

He was duped by the Charaiders charade. His "partners" fed him a line of BS which he took hook line and sinker.

[Elvis]

I don't think Robles was duped. I think he is playing dumb to cover his own ass. How can the Mayor of Carson not know the extent of toxic pollution on the Carson site? Even if he didn't know up front he certainly had to of heard the rumblings and you would think looked into it.

This sounds right. And Carson does't come out with nothing, not a ton, but the land is now theirs and they get like 200k (i forget the number) from the Charaiders for playing along...