by willasdad 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 51 Joined: Jun 30 2015 LA Coliseum Practice Squad Re: Mayor Butts on Going Roggin POST #11 RamsFanSince82 wrote:la ramsfanjsj posted this on the other LA site."Going Roggin" also airs Saturday midday, and I watched the interview.Mayor Butts said the timeline got pushed back to 2019 because the 2018 opening was based on breaking ground last month, but they're having to hold off until the league makes their LA decision. Now that's they've had to wait this long, they can't break ground until after the El Niño season to pass. I think he said ground would be broken in June, now (with approval).That's about the same time SD would be able to hold their election...hmmm. by Stranger 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 3213 Joined: Aug 12 2015 Norcal Superstar Re: Mayor Butts on Going Roggin POST #12 willasdad wrote:RamsFanSince82 wrote:la ramsfanjsj posted this on the other LA site."Going Roggin" also airs Saturday midday, and I watched the interview.Mayor Butts said the timeline got pushed back to 2019 because the 2018 opening was based on breaking ground last month, but they're having to hold off until the league makes their LA decision. Now that's they've had to wait this long, they can't break ground until after the El Niño season to pass. I think he said ground would be broken in June, now (with approval).That's about the same time SD would be able to hold their election...hmmm.Very perceptive. New HC. New L.A. Stadium. Future is Bright. by den-the-coach 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 870 Joined: May 22 2015 Fifty-four Forty or Fight Veteran Re: Mayor Butts on Going Roggin POST #13 Well, maybe this is for the best and maybe it's a tactic to be first in LA. Because I guess I don't understand El Niño like others, but I could understand not breaking ground until March, but June in LA? Fact is, if the Rams & Chargers get the nod will both teams be able to play at the Coliseum? Or just one? by max 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 5714 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame Re: Mayor Butts on Going Roggin POST #14 I have a hard time buying a 6 month delay due to a weather prediction. There is more to this that they aren't saying. ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers by Stranger 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 3213 Joined: Aug 12 2015 Norcal Superstar Re: Mayor Butts on Going Roggin POST #15 max wrote:I have a hard time buying a 6 month delay due to a weather prediction. There is more to this that they aren't saying.yup, I agree. I still think this is PR to give SD an out to to negotiate a deal locally. I still think Spanos never intended to move to LA. New HC. New L.A. Stadium. Future is Bright. by max 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 5714 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame Re: Mayor Butts on Going Roggin POST #16 Stranger wrote:max wrote:I have a hard time buying a 6 month delay due to a weather prediction. There is more to this that they aren't saying.yup, I agree. I still think this is PR to give SD an out to to negotiate a deal locally. I still think Spanos never intended to move to LA.Why would delaying Inglewood until June help Spanos with vote?They are going to make a decision soon on who goes to LA. I don't get it. ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers by max 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 5714 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame Re: Mayor Butts on Going Roggin POST #17 Only thing I can think of is that they won't decide on the stadium until June, but will decide on Rams in LA for sure, and Chargers in LA if vote goes against them in June.I'm not even sure that makes sense. ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers by Stranger 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 3213 Joined: Aug 12 2015 Norcal Superstar Re: Mayor Butts on Going Roggin POST #18 max wrote:Only thing I can think of is that they won't decide on the stadium until June, but will decide on Rams in LA for sure, and Chargers in LA if vote goes against them in June.For a few weeks now I've been convinced that:1) Rams get immediate approval to move to LA2) Chargers get approval now to move to LA, with stipulation that they can't move until 2019.Now, think PR, not reality. If the PR machine says that Inglewood hasn't broken ground yet, and SD city grants Spanos his downtown stadium in June, then everyone saves face. Spanos can say we've decide to stay in SD because they have finally given us what we've wanted (it keeps SD engaged and motivated). And no one looks bad because PR says that Inglewood project hasn't started yet. Now, of course, ground will be broken immediately. That's another matter. They've convinced the public that Carson is viable. What's real and what discussed in the media are two entirely unrelated matters. New HC. New L.A. Stadium. Future is Bright. by max 9 years 5 months ago Total posts: 5714 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame Re: Mayor Butts on Going Roggin POST #19 I'm not 100% certain of anything in life, and football is even worse, but I'm at least 99% sure that the we will be the LA Rams this coming season.It never ceases to amaze me how off the people who report on sports in general are. Listen to Rapoport and Allbright. Almost everyone else has their head up their ass. ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers by Hacksaw 9 years 5 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: Mayor Butts on Going Roggin POST #20 Delaying the project for 6 months make zero sense at all. It certainly has nothing to do with El Nino. Everybody knew El Nino was coming a year(s) ago. That stadium crater will take far longer than 1 month or 2 to excavate, haul or relocate/grade. If they were digging in December as first planned, they would have dealt with the rain through out the excavation process. The only remote possibility of a connection might be that they didn't believe the rain would actually happen,,,, which I seriously doubt. The 6 month timeline is far to long as well. It will rain this year but in LA rain past April is rare even in El Nino years. Does anyone think it didn't rain much in Seattle when they were digging the foundation for CenturyLink Field?No. Something else happened. As willasdad eluded, it's possible ESK was not given a positive outlook from the owners and ESK thinks it best to wait until after Spanos get's his vote. This would indicate that Carson is still in the mix and the Rams to LA is not a foregone conclusion. Also that ESK won't go to LA forcefully.Perhaps the FAA thing is going to hold up the permits so no construction can begin. Simple as that. The fact that Butts comments were only about El Nino concerns me. I don't think he is telling the complete truth about that. I could be wrong but he could very easily be turning the attention away from FAA which might weaken the Inglewood projects perception here at vote time. Stranger, a yes vote for the Chargers now would put pressure on San Diego whether the CoC is under construction or not. It will however give the impression that his Carson project is still very much alive so in that sense, it strengthens Spano's leverage. This delay could be only the first. Another could be the actual vote. I don't know what this all means but it's not a positive (un)development. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS Reply 2 / 4 1 2 4 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 36 posts Jul 13 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by Stranger 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 3213 Joined: Aug 12 2015 Norcal Superstar Re: Mayor Butts on Going Roggin POST #12 willasdad wrote:RamsFanSince82 wrote:la ramsfanjsj posted this on the other LA site."Going Roggin" also airs Saturday midday, and I watched the interview.Mayor Butts said the timeline got pushed back to 2019 because the 2018 opening was based on breaking ground last month, but they're having to hold off until the league makes their LA decision. Now that's they've had to wait this long, they can't break ground until after the El Niño season to pass. I think he said ground would be broken in June, now (with approval).That's about the same time SD would be able to hold their election...hmmm.Very perceptive. New HC. New L.A. Stadium. Future is Bright. by den-the-coach 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 870 Joined: May 22 2015 Fifty-four Forty or Fight Veteran Re: Mayor Butts on Going Roggin POST #13 Well, maybe this is for the best and maybe it's a tactic to be first in LA. Because I guess I don't understand El Niño like others, but I could understand not breaking ground until March, but June in LA? Fact is, if the Rams & Chargers get the nod will both teams be able to play at the Coliseum? Or just one? by max 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 5714 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame Re: Mayor Butts on Going Roggin POST #14 I have a hard time buying a 6 month delay due to a weather prediction. There is more to this that they aren't saying. ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers by Stranger 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 3213 Joined: Aug 12 2015 Norcal Superstar Re: Mayor Butts on Going Roggin POST #15 max wrote:I have a hard time buying a 6 month delay due to a weather prediction. There is more to this that they aren't saying.yup, I agree. I still think this is PR to give SD an out to to negotiate a deal locally. I still think Spanos never intended to move to LA. New HC. New L.A. Stadium. Future is Bright. by max 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 5714 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame Re: Mayor Butts on Going Roggin POST #16 Stranger wrote:max wrote:I have a hard time buying a 6 month delay due to a weather prediction. There is more to this that they aren't saying.yup, I agree. I still think this is PR to give SD an out to to negotiate a deal locally. I still think Spanos never intended to move to LA.Why would delaying Inglewood until June help Spanos with vote?They are going to make a decision soon on who goes to LA. I don't get it. ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers by max 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 5714 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame Re: Mayor Butts on Going Roggin POST #17 Only thing I can think of is that they won't decide on the stadium until June, but will decide on Rams in LA for sure, and Chargers in LA if vote goes against them in June.I'm not even sure that makes sense. ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers by Stranger 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 3213 Joined: Aug 12 2015 Norcal Superstar Re: Mayor Butts on Going Roggin POST #18 max wrote:Only thing I can think of is that they won't decide on the stadium until June, but will decide on Rams in LA for sure, and Chargers in LA if vote goes against them in June.For a few weeks now I've been convinced that:1) Rams get immediate approval to move to LA2) Chargers get approval now to move to LA, with stipulation that they can't move until 2019.Now, think PR, not reality. If the PR machine says that Inglewood hasn't broken ground yet, and SD city grants Spanos his downtown stadium in June, then everyone saves face. Spanos can say we've decide to stay in SD because they have finally given us what we've wanted (it keeps SD engaged and motivated). And no one looks bad because PR says that Inglewood project hasn't started yet. Now, of course, ground will be broken immediately. That's another matter. They've convinced the public that Carson is viable. What's real and what discussed in the media are two entirely unrelated matters. New HC. New L.A. Stadium. Future is Bright. by max 9 years 5 months ago Total posts: 5714 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame Re: Mayor Butts on Going Roggin POST #19 I'm not 100% certain of anything in life, and football is even worse, but I'm at least 99% sure that the we will be the LA Rams this coming season.It never ceases to amaze me how off the people who report on sports in general are. Listen to Rapoport and Allbright. Almost everyone else has their head up their ass. ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers by Hacksaw 9 years 5 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: Mayor Butts on Going Roggin POST #20 Delaying the project for 6 months make zero sense at all. It certainly has nothing to do with El Nino. Everybody knew El Nino was coming a year(s) ago. That stadium crater will take far longer than 1 month or 2 to excavate, haul or relocate/grade. If they were digging in December as first planned, they would have dealt with the rain through out the excavation process. The only remote possibility of a connection might be that they didn't believe the rain would actually happen,,,, which I seriously doubt. The 6 month timeline is far to long as well. It will rain this year but in LA rain past April is rare even in El Nino years. Does anyone think it didn't rain much in Seattle when they were digging the foundation for CenturyLink Field?No. Something else happened. As willasdad eluded, it's possible ESK was not given a positive outlook from the owners and ESK thinks it best to wait until after Spanos get's his vote. This would indicate that Carson is still in the mix and the Rams to LA is not a foregone conclusion. Also that ESK won't go to LA forcefully.Perhaps the FAA thing is going to hold up the permits so no construction can begin. Simple as that. The fact that Butts comments were only about El Nino concerns me. I don't think he is telling the complete truth about that. I could be wrong but he could very easily be turning the attention away from FAA which might weaken the Inglewood projects perception here at vote time. Stranger, a yes vote for the Chargers now would put pressure on San Diego whether the CoC is under construction or not. It will however give the impression that his Carson project is still very much alive so in that sense, it strengthens Spano's leverage. This delay could be only the first. Another could be the actual vote. I don't know what this all means but it's not a positive (un)development. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS Reply 2 / 4 1 2 4 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 36 posts Jul 13 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by den-the-coach 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 870 Joined: May 22 2015 Fifty-four Forty or Fight Veteran Re: Mayor Butts on Going Roggin POST #13 Well, maybe this is for the best and maybe it's a tactic to be first in LA. Because I guess I don't understand El Niño like others, but I could understand not breaking ground until March, but June in LA? Fact is, if the Rams & Chargers get the nod will both teams be able to play at the Coliseum? Or just one? by max 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 5714 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame Re: Mayor Butts on Going Roggin POST #14 I have a hard time buying a 6 month delay due to a weather prediction. There is more to this that they aren't saying. ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers by Stranger 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 3213 Joined: Aug 12 2015 Norcal Superstar Re: Mayor Butts on Going Roggin POST #15 max wrote:I have a hard time buying a 6 month delay due to a weather prediction. There is more to this that they aren't saying.yup, I agree. I still think this is PR to give SD an out to to negotiate a deal locally. I still think Spanos never intended to move to LA. New HC. New L.A. Stadium. Future is Bright. by max 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 5714 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame Re: Mayor Butts on Going Roggin POST #16 Stranger wrote:max wrote:I have a hard time buying a 6 month delay due to a weather prediction. There is more to this that they aren't saying.yup, I agree. I still think this is PR to give SD an out to to negotiate a deal locally. I still think Spanos never intended to move to LA.Why would delaying Inglewood until June help Spanos with vote?They are going to make a decision soon on who goes to LA. I don't get it. ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers by max 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 5714 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame Re: Mayor Butts on Going Roggin POST #17 Only thing I can think of is that they won't decide on the stadium until June, but will decide on Rams in LA for sure, and Chargers in LA if vote goes against them in June.I'm not even sure that makes sense. ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers by Stranger 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 3213 Joined: Aug 12 2015 Norcal Superstar Re: Mayor Butts on Going Roggin POST #18 max wrote:Only thing I can think of is that they won't decide on the stadium until June, but will decide on Rams in LA for sure, and Chargers in LA if vote goes against them in June.For a few weeks now I've been convinced that:1) Rams get immediate approval to move to LA2) Chargers get approval now to move to LA, with stipulation that they can't move until 2019.Now, think PR, not reality. If the PR machine says that Inglewood hasn't broken ground yet, and SD city grants Spanos his downtown stadium in June, then everyone saves face. Spanos can say we've decide to stay in SD because they have finally given us what we've wanted (it keeps SD engaged and motivated). And no one looks bad because PR says that Inglewood project hasn't started yet. Now, of course, ground will be broken immediately. That's another matter. They've convinced the public that Carson is viable. What's real and what discussed in the media are two entirely unrelated matters. New HC. New L.A. Stadium. Future is Bright. by max 9 years 5 months ago Total posts: 5714 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame Re: Mayor Butts on Going Roggin POST #19 I'm not 100% certain of anything in life, and football is even worse, but I'm at least 99% sure that the we will be the LA Rams this coming season.It never ceases to amaze me how off the people who report on sports in general are. Listen to Rapoport and Allbright. Almost everyone else has their head up their ass. ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers by Hacksaw 9 years 5 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: Mayor Butts on Going Roggin POST #20 Delaying the project for 6 months make zero sense at all. It certainly has nothing to do with El Nino. Everybody knew El Nino was coming a year(s) ago. That stadium crater will take far longer than 1 month or 2 to excavate, haul or relocate/grade. If they were digging in December as first planned, they would have dealt with the rain through out the excavation process. The only remote possibility of a connection might be that they didn't believe the rain would actually happen,,,, which I seriously doubt. The 6 month timeline is far to long as well. It will rain this year but in LA rain past April is rare even in El Nino years. Does anyone think it didn't rain much in Seattle when they were digging the foundation for CenturyLink Field?No. Something else happened. As willasdad eluded, it's possible ESK was not given a positive outlook from the owners and ESK thinks it best to wait until after Spanos get's his vote. This would indicate that Carson is still in the mix and the Rams to LA is not a foregone conclusion. Also that ESK won't go to LA forcefully.Perhaps the FAA thing is going to hold up the permits so no construction can begin. Simple as that. The fact that Butts comments were only about El Nino concerns me. I don't think he is telling the complete truth about that. I could be wrong but he could very easily be turning the attention away from FAA which might weaken the Inglewood projects perception here at vote time. Stranger, a yes vote for the Chargers now would put pressure on San Diego whether the CoC is under construction or not. It will however give the impression that his Carson project is still very much alive so in that sense, it strengthens Spano's leverage. This delay could be only the first. Another could be the actual vote. I don't know what this all means but it's not a positive (un)development. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS Reply 2 / 4 1 2 4 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 36 posts Jul 13 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by max 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 5714 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame Re: Mayor Butts on Going Roggin POST #14 I have a hard time buying a 6 month delay due to a weather prediction. There is more to this that they aren't saying. ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers by Stranger 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 3213 Joined: Aug 12 2015 Norcal Superstar Re: Mayor Butts on Going Roggin POST #15 max wrote:I have a hard time buying a 6 month delay due to a weather prediction. There is more to this that they aren't saying.yup, I agree. I still think this is PR to give SD an out to to negotiate a deal locally. I still think Spanos never intended to move to LA. New HC. New L.A. Stadium. Future is Bright. by max 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 5714 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame Re: Mayor Butts on Going Roggin POST #16 Stranger wrote:max wrote:I have a hard time buying a 6 month delay due to a weather prediction. There is more to this that they aren't saying.yup, I agree. I still think this is PR to give SD an out to to negotiate a deal locally. I still think Spanos never intended to move to LA.Why would delaying Inglewood until June help Spanos with vote?They are going to make a decision soon on who goes to LA. I don't get it. ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers by max 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 5714 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame Re: Mayor Butts on Going Roggin POST #17 Only thing I can think of is that they won't decide on the stadium until June, but will decide on Rams in LA for sure, and Chargers in LA if vote goes against them in June.I'm not even sure that makes sense. ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers by Stranger 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 3213 Joined: Aug 12 2015 Norcal Superstar Re: Mayor Butts on Going Roggin POST #18 max wrote:Only thing I can think of is that they won't decide on the stadium until June, but will decide on Rams in LA for sure, and Chargers in LA if vote goes against them in June.For a few weeks now I've been convinced that:1) Rams get immediate approval to move to LA2) Chargers get approval now to move to LA, with stipulation that they can't move until 2019.Now, think PR, not reality. If the PR machine says that Inglewood hasn't broken ground yet, and SD city grants Spanos his downtown stadium in June, then everyone saves face. Spanos can say we've decide to stay in SD because they have finally given us what we've wanted (it keeps SD engaged and motivated). And no one looks bad because PR says that Inglewood project hasn't started yet. Now, of course, ground will be broken immediately. That's another matter. They've convinced the public that Carson is viable. What's real and what discussed in the media are two entirely unrelated matters. New HC. New L.A. Stadium. Future is Bright. by max 9 years 5 months ago Total posts: 5714 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame Re: Mayor Butts on Going Roggin POST #19 I'm not 100% certain of anything in life, and football is even worse, but I'm at least 99% sure that the we will be the LA Rams this coming season.It never ceases to amaze me how off the people who report on sports in general are. Listen to Rapoport and Allbright. Almost everyone else has their head up their ass. ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers by Hacksaw 9 years 5 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: Mayor Butts on Going Roggin POST #20 Delaying the project for 6 months make zero sense at all. It certainly has nothing to do with El Nino. Everybody knew El Nino was coming a year(s) ago. That stadium crater will take far longer than 1 month or 2 to excavate, haul or relocate/grade. If they were digging in December as first planned, they would have dealt with the rain through out the excavation process. The only remote possibility of a connection might be that they didn't believe the rain would actually happen,,,, which I seriously doubt. The 6 month timeline is far to long as well. It will rain this year but in LA rain past April is rare even in El Nino years. Does anyone think it didn't rain much in Seattle when they were digging the foundation for CenturyLink Field?No. Something else happened. As willasdad eluded, it's possible ESK was not given a positive outlook from the owners and ESK thinks it best to wait until after Spanos get's his vote. This would indicate that Carson is still in the mix and the Rams to LA is not a foregone conclusion. Also that ESK won't go to LA forcefully.Perhaps the FAA thing is going to hold up the permits so no construction can begin. Simple as that. The fact that Butts comments were only about El Nino concerns me. I don't think he is telling the complete truth about that. I could be wrong but he could very easily be turning the attention away from FAA which might weaken the Inglewood projects perception here at vote time. Stranger, a yes vote for the Chargers now would put pressure on San Diego whether the CoC is under construction or not. It will however give the impression that his Carson project is still very much alive so in that sense, it strengthens Spano's leverage. This delay could be only the first. Another could be the actual vote. I don't know what this all means but it's not a positive (un)development. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS Reply 2 / 4 1 2 4 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 36 posts Jul 13 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by Stranger 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 3213 Joined: Aug 12 2015 Norcal Superstar Re: Mayor Butts on Going Roggin POST #15 max wrote:I have a hard time buying a 6 month delay due to a weather prediction. There is more to this that they aren't saying.yup, I agree. I still think this is PR to give SD an out to to negotiate a deal locally. I still think Spanos never intended to move to LA. New HC. New L.A. Stadium. Future is Bright. by max 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 5714 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame Re: Mayor Butts on Going Roggin POST #16 Stranger wrote:max wrote:I have a hard time buying a 6 month delay due to a weather prediction. There is more to this that they aren't saying.yup, I agree. I still think this is PR to give SD an out to to negotiate a deal locally. I still think Spanos never intended to move to LA.Why would delaying Inglewood until June help Spanos with vote?They are going to make a decision soon on who goes to LA. I don't get it. ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers by max 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 5714 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame Re: Mayor Butts on Going Roggin POST #17 Only thing I can think of is that they won't decide on the stadium until June, but will decide on Rams in LA for sure, and Chargers in LA if vote goes against them in June.I'm not even sure that makes sense. ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers by Stranger 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 3213 Joined: Aug 12 2015 Norcal Superstar Re: Mayor Butts on Going Roggin POST #18 max wrote:Only thing I can think of is that they won't decide on the stadium until June, but will decide on Rams in LA for sure, and Chargers in LA if vote goes against them in June.For a few weeks now I've been convinced that:1) Rams get immediate approval to move to LA2) Chargers get approval now to move to LA, with stipulation that they can't move until 2019.Now, think PR, not reality. If the PR machine says that Inglewood hasn't broken ground yet, and SD city grants Spanos his downtown stadium in June, then everyone saves face. Spanos can say we've decide to stay in SD because they have finally given us what we've wanted (it keeps SD engaged and motivated). And no one looks bad because PR says that Inglewood project hasn't started yet. Now, of course, ground will be broken immediately. That's another matter. They've convinced the public that Carson is viable. What's real and what discussed in the media are two entirely unrelated matters. New HC. New L.A. Stadium. Future is Bright. by max 9 years 5 months ago Total posts: 5714 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame Re: Mayor Butts on Going Roggin POST #19 I'm not 100% certain of anything in life, and football is even worse, but I'm at least 99% sure that the we will be the LA Rams this coming season.It never ceases to amaze me how off the people who report on sports in general are. Listen to Rapoport and Allbright. Almost everyone else has their head up their ass. ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers by Hacksaw 9 years 5 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: Mayor Butts on Going Roggin POST #20 Delaying the project for 6 months make zero sense at all. It certainly has nothing to do with El Nino. Everybody knew El Nino was coming a year(s) ago. That stadium crater will take far longer than 1 month or 2 to excavate, haul or relocate/grade. If they were digging in December as first planned, they would have dealt with the rain through out the excavation process. The only remote possibility of a connection might be that they didn't believe the rain would actually happen,,,, which I seriously doubt. The 6 month timeline is far to long as well. It will rain this year but in LA rain past April is rare even in El Nino years. Does anyone think it didn't rain much in Seattle when they were digging the foundation for CenturyLink Field?No. Something else happened. As willasdad eluded, it's possible ESK was not given a positive outlook from the owners and ESK thinks it best to wait until after Spanos get's his vote. This would indicate that Carson is still in the mix and the Rams to LA is not a foregone conclusion. Also that ESK won't go to LA forcefully.Perhaps the FAA thing is going to hold up the permits so no construction can begin. Simple as that. The fact that Butts comments were only about El Nino concerns me. I don't think he is telling the complete truth about that. I could be wrong but he could very easily be turning the attention away from FAA which might weaken the Inglewood projects perception here at vote time. Stranger, a yes vote for the Chargers now would put pressure on San Diego whether the CoC is under construction or not. It will however give the impression that his Carson project is still very much alive so in that sense, it strengthens Spano's leverage. This delay could be only the first. Another could be the actual vote. I don't know what this all means but it's not a positive (un)development. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS Reply 2 / 4 1 2 4 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 36 posts Jul 13 2025
by max 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 5714 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame Re: Mayor Butts on Going Roggin POST #16 Stranger wrote:max wrote:I have a hard time buying a 6 month delay due to a weather prediction. There is more to this that they aren't saying.yup, I agree. I still think this is PR to give SD an out to to negotiate a deal locally. I still think Spanos never intended to move to LA.Why would delaying Inglewood until June help Spanos with vote?They are going to make a decision soon on who goes to LA. I don't get it. ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers by max 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 5714 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame Re: Mayor Butts on Going Roggin POST #17 Only thing I can think of is that they won't decide on the stadium until June, but will decide on Rams in LA for sure, and Chargers in LA if vote goes against them in June.I'm not even sure that makes sense. ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers by Stranger 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 3213 Joined: Aug 12 2015 Norcal Superstar Re: Mayor Butts on Going Roggin POST #18 max wrote:Only thing I can think of is that they won't decide on the stadium until June, but will decide on Rams in LA for sure, and Chargers in LA if vote goes against them in June.For a few weeks now I've been convinced that:1) Rams get immediate approval to move to LA2) Chargers get approval now to move to LA, with stipulation that they can't move until 2019.Now, think PR, not reality. If the PR machine says that Inglewood hasn't broken ground yet, and SD city grants Spanos his downtown stadium in June, then everyone saves face. Spanos can say we've decide to stay in SD because they have finally given us what we've wanted (it keeps SD engaged and motivated). And no one looks bad because PR says that Inglewood project hasn't started yet. Now, of course, ground will be broken immediately. That's another matter. They've convinced the public that Carson is viable. What's real and what discussed in the media are two entirely unrelated matters. New HC. New L.A. Stadium. Future is Bright. by max 9 years 5 months ago Total posts: 5714 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame Re: Mayor Butts on Going Roggin POST #19 I'm not 100% certain of anything in life, and football is even worse, but I'm at least 99% sure that the we will be the LA Rams this coming season.It never ceases to amaze me how off the people who report on sports in general are. Listen to Rapoport and Allbright. Almost everyone else has their head up their ass. ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers by Hacksaw 9 years 5 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: Mayor Butts on Going Roggin POST #20 Delaying the project for 6 months make zero sense at all. It certainly has nothing to do with El Nino. Everybody knew El Nino was coming a year(s) ago. That stadium crater will take far longer than 1 month or 2 to excavate, haul or relocate/grade. If they were digging in December as first planned, they would have dealt with the rain through out the excavation process. The only remote possibility of a connection might be that they didn't believe the rain would actually happen,,,, which I seriously doubt. The 6 month timeline is far to long as well. It will rain this year but in LA rain past April is rare even in El Nino years. Does anyone think it didn't rain much in Seattle when they were digging the foundation for CenturyLink Field?No. Something else happened. As willasdad eluded, it's possible ESK was not given a positive outlook from the owners and ESK thinks it best to wait until after Spanos get's his vote. This would indicate that Carson is still in the mix and the Rams to LA is not a foregone conclusion. Also that ESK won't go to LA forcefully.Perhaps the FAA thing is going to hold up the permits so no construction can begin. Simple as that. The fact that Butts comments were only about El Nino concerns me. I don't think he is telling the complete truth about that. I could be wrong but he could very easily be turning the attention away from FAA which might weaken the Inglewood projects perception here at vote time. Stranger, a yes vote for the Chargers now would put pressure on San Diego whether the CoC is under construction or not. It will however give the impression that his Carson project is still very much alive so in that sense, it strengthens Spano's leverage. This delay could be only the first. Another could be the actual vote. I don't know what this all means but it's not a positive (un)development. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS Reply 2 / 4 1 2 4 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 36 posts Jul 13 2025
by max 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 5714 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame Re: Mayor Butts on Going Roggin POST #17 Only thing I can think of is that they won't decide on the stadium until June, but will decide on Rams in LA for sure, and Chargers in LA if vote goes against them in June.I'm not even sure that makes sense. ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers by Stranger 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 3213 Joined: Aug 12 2015 Norcal Superstar Re: Mayor Butts on Going Roggin POST #18 max wrote:Only thing I can think of is that they won't decide on the stadium until June, but will decide on Rams in LA for sure, and Chargers in LA if vote goes against them in June.For a few weeks now I've been convinced that:1) Rams get immediate approval to move to LA2) Chargers get approval now to move to LA, with stipulation that they can't move until 2019.Now, think PR, not reality. If the PR machine says that Inglewood hasn't broken ground yet, and SD city grants Spanos his downtown stadium in June, then everyone saves face. Spanos can say we've decide to stay in SD because they have finally given us what we've wanted (it keeps SD engaged and motivated). And no one looks bad because PR says that Inglewood project hasn't started yet. Now, of course, ground will be broken immediately. That's another matter. They've convinced the public that Carson is viable. What's real and what discussed in the media are two entirely unrelated matters. New HC. New L.A. Stadium. Future is Bright. by max 9 years 5 months ago Total posts: 5714 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame Re: Mayor Butts on Going Roggin POST #19 I'm not 100% certain of anything in life, and football is even worse, but I'm at least 99% sure that the we will be the LA Rams this coming season.It never ceases to amaze me how off the people who report on sports in general are. Listen to Rapoport and Allbright. Almost everyone else has their head up their ass. ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers by Hacksaw 9 years 5 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: Mayor Butts on Going Roggin POST #20 Delaying the project for 6 months make zero sense at all. It certainly has nothing to do with El Nino. Everybody knew El Nino was coming a year(s) ago. That stadium crater will take far longer than 1 month or 2 to excavate, haul or relocate/grade. If they were digging in December as first planned, they would have dealt with the rain through out the excavation process. The only remote possibility of a connection might be that they didn't believe the rain would actually happen,,,, which I seriously doubt. The 6 month timeline is far to long as well. It will rain this year but in LA rain past April is rare even in El Nino years. Does anyone think it didn't rain much in Seattle when they were digging the foundation for CenturyLink Field?No. Something else happened. As willasdad eluded, it's possible ESK was not given a positive outlook from the owners and ESK thinks it best to wait until after Spanos get's his vote. This would indicate that Carson is still in the mix and the Rams to LA is not a foregone conclusion. Also that ESK won't go to LA forcefully.Perhaps the FAA thing is going to hold up the permits so no construction can begin. Simple as that. The fact that Butts comments were only about El Nino concerns me. I don't think he is telling the complete truth about that. I could be wrong but he could very easily be turning the attention away from FAA which might weaken the Inglewood projects perception here at vote time. Stranger, a yes vote for the Chargers now would put pressure on San Diego whether the CoC is under construction or not. It will however give the impression that his Carson project is still very much alive so in that sense, it strengthens Spano's leverage. This delay could be only the first. Another could be the actual vote. I don't know what this all means but it's not a positive (un)development. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS Reply 2 / 4 1 2 4 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 36 posts Jul 13 2025
by Stranger 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 3213 Joined: Aug 12 2015 Norcal Superstar Re: Mayor Butts on Going Roggin POST #18 max wrote:Only thing I can think of is that they won't decide on the stadium until June, but will decide on Rams in LA for sure, and Chargers in LA if vote goes against them in June.For a few weeks now I've been convinced that:1) Rams get immediate approval to move to LA2) Chargers get approval now to move to LA, with stipulation that they can't move until 2019.Now, think PR, not reality. If the PR machine says that Inglewood hasn't broken ground yet, and SD city grants Spanos his downtown stadium in June, then everyone saves face. Spanos can say we've decide to stay in SD because they have finally given us what we've wanted (it keeps SD engaged and motivated). And no one looks bad because PR says that Inglewood project hasn't started yet. Now, of course, ground will be broken immediately. That's another matter. They've convinced the public that Carson is viable. What's real and what discussed in the media are two entirely unrelated matters. New HC. New L.A. Stadium. Future is Bright. by max 9 years 5 months ago Total posts: 5714 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame Re: Mayor Butts on Going Roggin POST #19 I'm not 100% certain of anything in life, and football is even worse, but I'm at least 99% sure that the we will be the LA Rams this coming season.It never ceases to amaze me how off the people who report on sports in general are. Listen to Rapoport and Allbright. Almost everyone else has their head up their ass. ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers by Hacksaw 9 years 5 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: Mayor Butts on Going Roggin POST #20 Delaying the project for 6 months make zero sense at all. It certainly has nothing to do with El Nino. Everybody knew El Nino was coming a year(s) ago. That stadium crater will take far longer than 1 month or 2 to excavate, haul or relocate/grade. If they were digging in December as first planned, they would have dealt with the rain through out the excavation process. The only remote possibility of a connection might be that they didn't believe the rain would actually happen,,,, which I seriously doubt. The 6 month timeline is far to long as well. It will rain this year but in LA rain past April is rare even in El Nino years. Does anyone think it didn't rain much in Seattle when they were digging the foundation for CenturyLink Field?No. Something else happened. As willasdad eluded, it's possible ESK was not given a positive outlook from the owners and ESK thinks it best to wait until after Spanos get's his vote. This would indicate that Carson is still in the mix and the Rams to LA is not a foregone conclusion. Also that ESK won't go to LA forcefully.Perhaps the FAA thing is going to hold up the permits so no construction can begin. Simple as that. The fact that Butts comments were only about El Nino concerns me. I don't think he is telling the complete truth about that. I could be wrong but he could very easily be turning the attention away from FAA which might weaken the Inglewood projects perception here at vote time. Stranger, a yes vote for the Chargers now would put pressure on San Diego whether the CoC is under construction or not. It will however give the impression that his Carson project is still very much alive so in that sense, it strengthens Spano's leverage. This delay could be only the first. Another could be the actual vote. I don't know what this all means but it's not a positive (un)development. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS Reply 2 / 4 1 2 4 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 36 posts Jul 13 2025
by max 9 years 5 months ago Total posts: 5714 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame Re: Mayor Butts on Going Roggin POST #19 I'm not 100% certain of anything in life, and football is even worse, but I'm at least 99% sure that the we will be the LA Rams this coming season.It never ceases to amaze me how off the people who report on sports in general are. Listen to Rapoport and Allbright. Almost everyone else has their head up their ass. ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers by Hacksaw 9 years 5 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: Mayor Butts on Going Roggin POST #20 Delaying the project for 6 months make zero sense at all. It certainly has nothing to do with El Nino. Everybody knew El Nino was coming a year(s) ago. That stadium crater will take far longer than 1 month or 2 to excavate, haul or relocate/grade. If they were digging in December as first planned, they would have dealt with the rain through out the excavation process. The only remote possibility of a connection might be that they didn't believe the rain would actually happen,,,, which I seriously doubt. The 6 month timeline is far to long as well. It will rain this year but in LA rain past April is rare even in El Nino years. Does anyone think it didn't rain much in Seattle when they were digging the foundation for CenturyLink Field?No. Something else happened. As willasdad eluded, it's possible ESK was not given a positive outlook from the owners and ESK thinks it best to wait until after Spanos get's his vote. This would indicate that Carson is still in the mix and the Rams to LA is not a foregone conclusion. Also that ESK won't go to LA forcefully.Perhaps the FAA thing is going to hold up the permits so no construction can begin. Simple as that. The fact that Butts comments were only about El Nino concerns me. I don't think he is telling the complete truth about that. I could be wrong but he could very easily be turning the attention away from FAA which might weaken the Inglewood projects perception here at vote time. Stranger, a yes vote for the Chargers now would put pressure on San Diego whether the CoC is under construction or not. It will however give the impression that his Carson project is still very much alive so in that sense, it strengthens Spano's leverage. This delay could be only the first. Another could be the actual vote. I don't know what this all means but it's not a positive (un)development. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS Reply 2 / 4 1 2 4 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 36 posts Jul 13 2025
by Hacksaw 9 years 5 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: Mayor Butts on Going Roggin POST #20 Delaying the project for 6 months make zero sense at all. It certainly has nothing to do with El Nino. Everybody knew El Nino was coming a year(s) ago. That stadium crater will take far longer than 1 month or 2 to excavate, haul or relocate/grade. If they were digging in December as first planned, they would have dealt with the rain through out the excavation process. The only remote possibility of a connection might be that they didn't believe the rain would actually happen,,,, which I seriously doubt. The 6 month timeline is far to long as well. It will rain this year but in LA rain past April is rare even in El Nino years. Does anyone think it didn't rain much in Seattle when they were digging the foundation for CenturyLink Field?No. Something else happened. As willasdad eluded, it's possible ESK was not given a positive outlook from the owners and ESK thinks it best to wait until after Spanos get's his vote. This would indicate that Carson is still in the mix and the Rams to LA is not a foregone conclusion. Also that ESK won't go to LA forcefully.Perhaps the FAA thing is going to hold up the permits so no construction can begin. Simple as that. The fact that Butts comments were only about El Nino concerns me. I don't think he is telling the complete truth about that. I could be wrong but he could very easily be turning the attention away from FAA which might weaken the Inglewood projects perception here at vote time. Stranger, a yes vote for the Chargers now would put pressure on San Diego whether the CoC is under construction or not. It will however give the impression that his Carson project is still very much alive so in that sense, it strengthens Spano's leverage. This delay could be only the first. Another could be the actual vote. I don't know what this all means but it's not a positive (un)development. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS Reply 2 / 4 1 2 4 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business