by majik 4 years 6 months ago Total posts: 1270 Joined: Aug 31 2015 New Jersey Pro Bowl Re: Best QB in LA POST #11 Teams are moving off highly drafted QBs quicker than ever before. I think Goff has 2021 to show something or they move on. If they cut him after the 2021 season, it costs them $1.6M less in cap space than it is to have him in the roster. Snead has been forward thinking is his view of dead cap space, as demonstrated with Gurley and Cooks. If Wolford starts Sunday and wins, Goff’s leash gets real tight for 2021. I look at cap management like Snead, that Goff’s cap is a sunk cost, and if Wolford or a Fitz gives you a better chance of winning then Goff becomes the most expensive backup in the league with Wentz. by AvengerRam 4 years 6 months ago Total posts: 8921 Joined: Oct 03 2017 Lake Mary, Florida Hall of Fame Re: Best QB in LA POST #12 Herbert has a 96.3 passer rating on a team that is 3 games below .500.Let's see how this plays out in the long run. by moklerman 4 years 6 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Best QB in LA POST #13 AvengerRam wrote:Herbert has a 96.3 passer rating on a team that is 3 games below .500.Let's see how this plays out in the long run.Doesn't that work in his favor? I think there's plenty to be impressed with. He just broke the rookie TD record in less than a season. by AvengerRam 4 years 6 months ago Total posts: 8921 Joined: Oct 03 2017 Lake Mary, Florida Hall of Fame Best QB in LA POST #14 moklerman wrote:Doesn't that work in his favor? I think there's plenty to be impressed with. He just broke the rookie TD record in less than a season.RG3 was an impressive rookie.So was Carson Wentz.So was Baker Mayfield.Sometimes it lasts. Other times, not so much.He's off to a good start. We'll see where it goes from there. by BuiltRamTough 4 years 6 months ago Total posts: 5357 Joined: May 15 2015 Los Angeles Hall of Fame Best QB in LA POST #15 The future of LA sports.. Attachments We Not Me RFU Season Ticket Holder by St. Loser Fan 4 years 6 months ago Total posts: 10905 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Best QB in LA POST #16 He’s available. /jk by AvengerRam 4 years 6 months ago Total posts: 8921 Joined: Oct 03 2017 Lake Mary, Florida Hall of Fame Best QB in LA POST #17 BuiltRamTough wrote:The future of LA sports..He looks like a young Sean Penn. by ramsman34 4 years 6 months ago Total posts: 10043 Joined: Apr 16 2015 Back in LA baby! Moderator Best QB in LA POST #18 TOPIC AUTHOR aeneas1 wrote:how many "transcendent talents" have the rams fielded at the qb position in their 84 year history? how many "transcendent talents" has each team fielded at qb in their franchise history?i dig herbert, and allen too, love their size and seemingly high ceilings, i dig jackson, mahomes, watson and especially wilson, serious athletic talent from head to toe... but for every transcendent talent that has hit the nfl, far more have either not come close or shined for a brief while only to fade into also-rans.933 qbs have been drafted since 1960, countless other qbs have joined the league as ufa, of which only 32 own a super bowl ring, while only 11 own more than one.the notion that the rams need that elite phenom to succeed, that all they have to do is go out and get that elite phenom, just strikes me as fan craziness.will herbert, allen, jackson, watson, mahomes, or lawrence deliver multiple lombardi trophies to their fanbases? maybe, maybe not - brees has delivered just one, so has rodgers, so has wilson.. favre, namath, dawson, and young only managed one as well - marino, kelly, tarkenton, fouts, moon, jurgensen, anderson, gabriel, mcnair, lamonica, etc., etc., etc., nada.maybe what most fans really want is a qb that's praised by the talking heads week in and week out, a general consensus top 3 qb that the nfl world marvels at, and why wouldn't they, but to think a guy like this is a shoe-in championship winner, let alone a multiple championship winner, which seems to be what more than a few think, is crazy to me.hell, if i had a buck for every time i've heard seahawk fans whine about wilson, say that it's time to move on (not sure that it was ever louder than post super bowl 49), i'd recoup my kids' college tuition.I was making a point about exactly what you stated with all those QBs - elite tariffs and high ceilingsI totally agree we don’t need elite/transcendent. A more mobile athlete would be nice - don’t need that either. Goff can win big. But he needs the help we have all seen fail around him this season and last: much better protection/OL play, top flight run game, better scheme/game plans/play calling. And improve STs to at least middling/respectable. The D is there, the skill positions are good - could use some elite speed. by ramsman34 4 years 6 months ago Total posts: 10043 Joined: Apr 16 2015 Back in LA baby! Moderator Best QB in LA POST #19 TOPIC AUTHOR AvengerRam wrote:He looks like a young Sean Penn.qb spicoli.pngWe have Sean Penn and Ryan Gosling at QB - no wonder our offense blows. by moklerman 4 years 6 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Best QB in LA POST #20 AvengerRam wrote:RG3 was an impressive rookie.So was Carson Wentz.So was Baker Mayfield.Sometimes it lasts. Other times, not so much.He's off to a good start. We'll see where it goes from there.Granted, no one can see the future but RGIII was destined to fail if he ever lost his legs. Wentz was still good up to last year before losing everyone on offense this year. He'll still be good if he gets traded/gets to play. Baker's doing pretty well, isn't he?I don't see any gimmicks or obvious potential problems with Herbert. It seems as though he's succeeding because he sees the field and makes good passes. Reply 2 / 4 1 2 4 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 40 posts Jul 26 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by AvengerRam 4 years 6 months ago Total posts: 8921 Joined: Oct 03 2017 Lake Mary, Florida Hall of Fame Re: Best QB in LA POST #12 Herbert has a 96.3 passer rating on a team that is 3 games below .500.Let's see how this plays out in the long run. by moklerman 4 years 6 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Best QB in LA POST #13 AvengerRam wrote:Herbert has a 96.3 passer rating on a team that is 3 games below .500.Let's see how this plays out in the long run.Doesn't that work in his favor? I think there's plenty to be impressed with. He just broke the rookie TD record in less than a season. by AvengerRam 4 years 6 months ago Total posts: 8921 Joined: Oct 03 2017 Lake Mary, Florida Hall of Fame Best QB in LA POST #14 moklerman wrote:Doesn't that work in his favor? I think there's plenty to be impressed with. He just broke the rookie TD record in less than a season.RG3 was an impressive rookie.So was Carson Wentz.So was Baker Mayfield.Sometimes it lasts. Other times, not so much.He's off to a good start. We'll see where it goes from there. by BuiltRamTough 4 years 6 months ago Total posts: 5357 Joined: May 15 2015 Los Angeles Hall of Fame Best QB in LA POST #15 The future of LA sports.. Attachments We Not Me RFU Season Ticket Holder by St. Loser Fan 4 years 6 months ago Total posts: 10905 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Best QB in LA POST #16 He’s available. /jk by AvengerRam 4 years 6 months ago Total posts: 8921 Joined: Oct 03 2017 Lake Mary, Florida Hall of Fame Best QB in LA POST #17 BuiltRamTough wrote:The future of LA sports..He looks like a young Sean Penn. by ramsman34 4 years 6 months ago Total posts: 10043 Joined: Apr 16 2015 Back in LA baby! Moderator Best QB in LA POST #18 TOPIC AUTHOR aeneas1 wrote:how many "transcendent talents" have the rams fielded at the qb position in their 84 year history? how many "transcendent talents" has each team fielded at qb in their franchise history?i dig herbert, and allen too, love their size and seemingly high ceilings, i dig jackson, mahomes, watson and especially wilson, serious athletic talent from head to toe... but for every transcendent talent that has hit the nfl, far more have either not come close or shined for a brief while only to fade into also-rans.933 qbs have been drafted since 1960, countless other qbs have joined the league as ufa, of which only 32 own a super bowl ring, while only 11 own more than one.the notion that the rams need that elite phenom to succeed, that all they have to do is go out and get that elite phenom, just strikes me as fan craziness.will herbert, allen, jackson, watson, mahomes, or lawrence deliver multiple lombardi trophies to their fanbases? maybe, maybe not - brees has delivered just one, so has rodgers, so has wilson.. favre, namath, dawson, and young only managed one as well - marino, kelly, tarkenton, fouts, moon, jurgensen, anderson, gabriel, mcnair, lamonica, etc., etc., etc., nada.maybe what most fans really want is a qb that's praised by the talking heads week in and week out, a general consensus top 3 qb that the nfl world marvels at, and why wouldn't they, but to think a guy like this is a shoe-in championship winner, let alone a multiple championship winner, which seems to be what more than a few think, is crazy to me.hell, if i had a buck for every time i've heard seahawk fans whine about wilson, say that it's time to move on (not sure that it was ever louder than post super bowl 49), i'd recoup my kids' college tuition.I was making a point about exactly what you stated with all those QBs - elite tariffs and high ceilingsI totally agree we don’t need elite/transcendent. A more mobile athlete would be nice - don’t need that either. Goff can win big. But he needs the help we have all seen fail around him this season and last: much better protection/OL play, top flight run game, better scheme/game plans/play calling. And improve STs to at least middling/respectable. The D is there, the skill positions are good - could use some elite speed. by ramsman34 4 years 6 months ago Total posts: 10043 Joined: Apr 16 2015 Back in LA baby! Moderator Best QB in LA POST #19 TOPIC AUTHOR AvengerRam wrote:He looks like a young Sean Penn.qb spicoli.pngWe have Sean Penn and Ryan Gosling at QB - no wonder our offense blows. by moklerman 4 years 6 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Best QB in LA POST #20 AvengerRam wrote:RG3 was an impressive rookie.So was Carson Wentz.So was Baker Mayfield.Sometimes it lasts. Other times, not so much.He's off to a good start. We'll see where it goes from there.Granted, no one can see the future but RGIII was destined to fail if he ever lost his legs. Wentz was still good up to last year before losing everyone on offense this year. He'll still be good if he gets traded/gets to play. Baker's doing pretty well, isn't he?I don't see any gimmicks or obvious potential problems with Herbert. It seems as though he's succeeding because he sees the field and makes good passes. Reply 2 / 4 1 2 4 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 40 posts Jul 26 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by moklerman 4 years 6 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Best QB in LA POST #13 AvengerRam wrote:Herbert has a 96.3 passer rating on a team that is 3 games below .500.Let's see how this plays out in the long run.Doesn't that work in his favor? I think there's plenty to be impressed with. He just broke the rookie TD record in less than a season. by AvengerRam 4 years 6 months ago Total posts: 8921 Joined: Oct 03 2017 Lake Mary, Florida Hall of Fame Best QB in LA POST #14 moklerman wrote:Doesn't that work in his favor? I think there's plenty to be impressed with. He just broke the rookie TD record in less than a season.RG3 was an impressive rookie.So was Carson Wentz.So was Baker Mayfield.Sometimes it lasts. Other times, not so much.He's off to a good start. We'll see where it goes from there. by BuiltRamTough 4 years 6 months ago Total posts: 5357 Joined: May 15 2015 Los Angeles Hall of Fame Best QB in LA POST #15 The future of LA sports.. Attachments We Not Me RFU Season Ticket Holder by St. Loser Fan 4 years 6 months ago Total posts: 10905 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Best QB in LA POST #16 He’s available. /jk by AvengerRam 4 years 6 months ago Total posts: 8921 Joined: Oct 03 2017 Lake Mary, Florida Hall of Fame Best QB in LA POST #17 BuiltRamTough wrote:The future of LA sports..He looks like a young Sean Penn. by ramsman34 4 years 6 months ago Total posts: 10043 Joined: Apr 16 2015 Back in LA baby! Moderator Best QB in LA POST #18 TOPIC AUTHOR aeneas1 wrote:how many "transcendent talents" have the rams fielded at the qb position in their 84 year history? how many "transcendent talents" has each team fielded at qb in their franchise history?i dig herbert, and allen too, love their size and seemingly high ceilings, i dig jackson, mahomes, watson and especially wilson, serious athletic talent from head to toe... but for every transcendent talent that has hit the nfl, far more have either not come close or shined for a brief while only to fade into also-rans.933 qbs have been drafted since 1960, countless other qbs have joined the league as ufa, of which only 32 own a super bowl ring, while only 11 own more than one.the notion that the rams need that elite phenom to succeed, that all they have to do is go out and get that elite phenom, just strikes me as fan craziness.will herbert, allen, jackson, watson, mahomes, or lawrence deliver multiple lombardi trophies to their fanbases? maybe, maybe not - brees has delivered just one, so has rodgers, so has wilson.. favre, namath, dawson, and young only managed one as well - marino, kelly, tarkenton, fouts, moon, jurgensen, anderson, gabriel, mcnair, lamonica, etc., etc., etc., nada.maybe what most fans really want is a qb that's praised by the talking heads week in and week out, a general consensus top 3 qb that the nfl world marvels at, and why wouldn't they, but to think a guy like this is a shoe-in championship winner, let alone a multiple championship winner, which seems to be what more than a few think, is crazy to me.hell, if i had a buck for every time i've heard seahawk fans whine about wilson, say that it's time to move on (not sure that it was ever louder than post super bowl 49), i'd recoup my kids' college tuition.I was making a point about exactly what you stated with all those QBs - elite tariffs and high ceilingsI totally agree we don’t need elite/transcendent. A more mobile athlete would be nice - don’t need that either. Goff can win big. But he needs the help we have all seen fail around him this season and last: much better protection/OL play, top flight run game, better scheme/game plans/play calling. And improve STs to at least middling/respectable. The D is there, the skill positions are good - could use some elite speed. by ramsman34 4 years 6 months ago Total posts: 10043 Joined: Apr 16 2015 Back in LA baby! Moderator Best QB in LA POST #19 TOPIC AUTHOR AvengerRam wrote:He looks like a young Sean Penn.qb spicoli.pngWe have Sean Penn and Ryan Gosling at QB - no wonder our offense blows. by moklerman 4 years 6 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Best QB in LA POST #20 AvengerRam wrote:RG3 was an impressive rookie.So was Carson Wentz.So was Baker Mayfield.Sometimes it lasts. Other times, not so much.He's off to a good start. We'll see where it goes from there.Granted, no one can see the future but RGIII was destined to fail if he ever lost his legs. Wentz was still good up to last year before losing everyone on offense this year. He'll still be good if he gets traded/gets to play. Baker's doing pretty well, isn't he?I don't see any gimmicks or obvious potential problems with Herbert. It seems as though he's succeeding because he sees the field and makes good passes. Reply 2 / 4 1 2 4 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 40 posts Jul 26 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by AvengerRam 4 years 6 months ago Total posts: 8921 Joined: Oct 03 2017 Lake Mary, Florida Hall of Fame Best QB in LA POST #14 moklerman wrote:Doesn't that work in his favor? I think there's plenty to be impressed with. He just broke the rookie TD record in less than a season.RG3 was an impressive rookie.So was Carson Wentz.So was Baker Mayfield.Sometimes it lasts. Other times, not so much.He's off to a good start. We'll see where it goes from there. by BuiltRamTough 4 years 6 months ago Total posts: 5357 Joined: May 15 2015 Los Angeles Hall of Fame Best QB in LA POST #15 The future of LA sports.. Attachments We Not Me RFU Season Ticket Holder by St. Loser Fan 4 years 6 months ago Total posts: 10905 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Best QB in LA POST #16 He’s available. /jk by AvengerRam 4 years 6 months ago Total posts: 8921 Joined: Oct 03 2017 Lake Mary, Florida Hall of Fame Best QB in LA POST #17 BuiltRamTough wrote:The future of LA sports..He looks like a young Sean Penn. by ramsman34 4 years 6 months ago Total posts: 10043 Joined: Apr 16 2015 Back in LA baby! Moderator Best QB in LA POST #18 TOPIC AUTHOR aeneas1 wrote:how many "transcendent talents" have the rams fielded at the qb position in their 84 year history? how many "transcendent talents" has each team fielded at qb in their franchise history?i dig herbert, and allen too, love their size and seemingly high ceilings, i dig jackson, mahomes, watson and especially wilson, serious athletic talent from head to toe... but for every transcendent talent that has hit the nfl, far more have either not come close or shined for a brief while only to fade into also-rans.933 qbs have been drafted since 1960, countless other qbs have joined the league as ufa, of which only 32 own a super bowl ring, while only 11 own more than one.the notion that the rams need that elite phenom to succeed, that all they have to do is go out and get that elite phenom, just strikes me as fan craziness.will herbert, allen, jackson, watson, mahomes, or lawrence deliver multiple lombardi trophies to their fanbases? maybe, maybe not - brees has delivered just one, so has rodgers, so has wilson.. favre, namath, dawson, and young only managed one as well - marino, kelly, tarkenton, fouts, moon, jurgensen, anderson, gabriel, mcnair, lamonica, etc., etc., etc., nada.maybe what most fans really want is a qb that's praised by the talking heads week in and week out, a general consensus top 3 qb that the nfl world marvels at, and why wouldn't they, but to think a guy like this is a shoe-in championship winner, let alone a multiple championship winner, which seems to be what more than a few think, is crazy to me.hell, if i had a buck for every time i've heard seahawk fans whine about wilson, say that it's time to move on (not sure that it was ever louder than post super bowl 49), i'd recoup my kids' college tuition.I was making a point about exactly what you stated with all those QBs - elite tariffs and high ceilingsI totally agree we don’t need elite/transcendent. A more mobile athlete would be nice - don’t need that either. Goff can win big. But he needs the help we have all seen fail around him this season and last: much better protection/OL play, top flight run game, better scheme/game plans/play calling. And improve STs to at least middling/respectable. The D is there, the skill positions are good - could use some elite speed. by ramsman34 4 years 6 months ago Total posts: 10043 Joined: Apr 16 2015 Back in LA baby! Moderator Best QB in LA POST #19 TOPIC AUTHOR AvengerRam wrote:He looks like a young Sean Penn.qb spicoli.pngWe have Sean Penn and Ryan Gosling at QB - no wonder our offense blows. by moklerman 4 years 6 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Best QB in LA POST #20 AvengerRam wrote:RG3 was an impressive rookie.So was Carson Wentz.So was Baker Mayfield.Sometimes it lasts. Other times, not so much.He's off to a good start. We'll see where it goes from there.Granted, no one can see the future but RGIII was destined to fail if he ever lost his legs. Wentz was still good up to last year before losing everyone on offense this year. He'll still be good if he gets traded/gets to play. Baker's doing pretty well, isn't he?I don't see any gimmicks or obvious potential problems with Herbert. It seems as though he's succeeding because he sees the field and makes good passes. Reply 2 / 4 1 2 4 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 40 posts Jul 26 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by BuiltRamTough 4 years 6 months ago Total posts: 5357 Joined: May 15 2015 Los Angeles Hall of Fame Best QB in LA POST #15 The future of LA sports.. Attachments We Not Me RFU Season Ticket Holder by St. Loser Fan 4 years 6 months ago Total posts: 10905 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Best QB in LA POST #16 He’s available. /jk by AvengerRam 4 years 6 months ago Total posts: 8921 Joined: Oct 03 2017 Lake Mary, Florida Hall of Fame Best QB in LA POST #17 BuiltRamTough wrote:The future of LA sports..He looks like a young Sean Penn. by ramsman34 4 years 6 months ago Total posts: 10043 Joined: Apr 16 2015 Back in LA baby! Moderator Best QB in LA POST #18 TOPIC AUTHOR aeneas1 wrote:how many "transcendent talents" have the rams fielded at the qb position in their 84 year history? how many "transcendent talents" has each team fielded at qb in their franchise history?i dig herbert, and allen too, love their size and seemingly high ceilings, i dig jackson, mahomes, watson and especially wilson, serious athletic talent from head to toe... but for every transcendent talent that has hit the nfl, far more have either not come close or shined for a brief while only to fade into also-rans.933 qbs have been drafted since 1960, countless other qbs have joined the league as ufa, of which only 32 own a super bowl ring, while only 11 own more than one.the notion that the rams need that elite phenom to succeed, that all they have to do is go out and get that elite phenom, just strikes me as fan craziness.will herbert, allen, jackson, watson, mahomes, or lawrence deliver multiple lombardi trophies to their fanbases? maybe, maybe not - brees has delivered just one, so has rodgers, so has wilson.. favre, namath, dawson, and young only managed one as well - marino, kelly, tarkenton, fouts, moon, jurgensen, anderson, gabriel, mcnair, lamonica, etc., etc., etc., nada.maybe what most fans really want is a qb that's praised by the talking heads week in and week out, a general consensus top 3 qb that the nfl world marvels at, and why wouldn't they, but to think a guy like this is a shoe-in championship winner, let alone a multiple championship winner, which seems to be what more than a few think, is crazy to me.hell, if i had a buck for every time i've heard seahawk fans whine about wilson, say that it's time to move on (not sure that it was ever louder than post super bowl 49), i'd recoup my kids' college tuition.I was making a point about exactly what you stated with all those QBs - elite tariffs and high ceilingsI totally agree we don’t need elite/transcendent. A more mobile athlete would be nice - don’t need that either. Goff can win big. But he needs the help we have all seen fail around him this season and last: much better protection/OL play, top flight run game, better scheme/game plans/play calling. And improve STs to at least middling/respectable. The D is there, the skill positions are good - could use some elite speed. by ramsman34 4 years 6 months ago Total posts: 10043 Joined: Apr 16 2015 Back in LA baby! Moderator Best QB in LA POST #19 TOPIC AUTHOR AvengerRam wrote:He looks like a young Sean Penn.qb spicoli.pngWe have Sean Penn and Ryan Gosling at QB - no wonder our offense blows. by moklerman 4 years 6 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Best QB in LA POST #20 AvengerRam wrote:RG3 was an impressive rookie.So was Carson Wentz.So was Baker Mayfield.Sometimes it lasts. Other times, not so much.He's off to a good start. We'll see where it goes from there.Granted, no one can see the future but RGIII was destined to fail if he ever lost his legs. Wentz was still good up to last year before losing everyone on offense this year. He'll still be good if he gets traded/gets to play. Baker's doing pretty well, isn't he?I don't see any gimmicks or obvious potential problems with Herbert. It seems as though he's succeeding because he sees the field and makes good passes. Reply 2 / 4 1 2 4 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 40 posts Jul 26 2025
by St. Loser Fan 4 years 6 months ago Total posts: 10905 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Best QB in LA POST #16 He’s available. /jk by AvengerRam 4 years 6 months ago Total posts: 8921 Joined: Oct 03 2017 Lake Mary, Florida Hall of Fame Best QB in LA POST #17 BuiltRamTough wrote:The future of LA sports..He looks like a young Sean Penn. by ramsman34 4 years 6 months ago Total posts: 10043 Joined: Apr 16 2015 Back in LA baby! Moderator Best QB in LA POST #18 TOPIC AUTHOR aeneas1 wrote:how many "transcendent talents" have the rams fielded at the qb position in their 84 year history? how many "transcendent talents" has each team fielded at qb in their franchise history?i dig herbert, and allen too, love their size and seemingly high ceilings, i dig jackson, mahomes, watson and especially wilson, serious athletic talent from head to toe... but for every transcendent talent that has hit the nfl, far more have either not come close or shined for a brief while only to fade into also-rans.933 qbs have been drafted since 1960, countless other qbs have joined the league as ufa, of which only 32 own a super bowl ring, while only 11 own more than one.the notion that the rams need that elite phenom to succeed, that all they have to do is go out and get that elite phenom, just strikes me as fan craziness.will herbert, allen, jackson, watson, mahomes, or lawrence deliver multiple lombardi trophies to their fanbases? maybe, maybe not - brees has delivered just one, so has rodgers, so has wilson.. favre, namath, dawson, and young only managed one as well - marino, kelly, tarkenton, fouts, moon, jurgensen, anderson, gabriel, mcnair, lamonica, etc., etc., etc., nada.maybe what most fans really want is a qb that's praised by the talking heads week in and week out, a general consensus top 3 qb that the nfl world marvels at, and why wouldn't they, but to think a guy like this is a shoe-in championship winner, let alone a multiple championship winner, which seems to be what more than a few think, is crazy to me.hell, if i had a buck for every time i've heard seahawk fans whine about wilson, say that it's time to move on (not sure that it was ever louder than post super bowl 49), i'd recoup my kids' college tuition.I was making a point about exactly what you stated with all those QBs - elite tariffs and high ceilingsI totally agree we don’t need elite/transcendent. A more mobile athlete would be nice - don’t need that either. Goff can win big. But he needs the help we have all seen fail around him this season and last: much better protection/OL play, top flight run game, better scheme/game plans/play calling. And improve STs to at least middling/respectable. The D is there, the skill positions are good - could use some elite speed. by ramsman34 4 years 6 months ago Total posts: 10043 Joined: Apr 16 2015 Back in LA baby! Moderator Best QB in LA POST #19 TOPIC AUTHOR AvengerRam wrote:He looks like a young Sean Penn.qb spicoli.pngWe have Sean Penn and Ryan Gosling at QB - no wonder our offense blows. by moklerman 4 years 6 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Best QB in LA POST #20 AvengerRam wrote:RG3 was an impressive rookie.So was Carson Wentz.So was Baker Mayfield.Sometimes it lasts. Other times, not so much.He's off to a good start. We'll see where it goes from there.Granted, no one can see the future but RGIII was destined to fail if he ever lost his legs. Wentz was still good up to last year before losing everyone on offense this year. He'll still be good if he gets traded/gets to play. Baker's doing pretty well, isn't he?I don't see any gimmicks or obvious potential problems with Herbert. It seems as though he's succeeding because he sees the field and makes good passes. Reply 2 / 4 1 2 4 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 40 posts Jul 26 2025
by AvengerRam 4 years 6 months ago Total posts: 8921 Joined: Oct 03 2017 Lake Mary, Florida Hall of Fame Best QB in LA POST #17 BuiltRamTough wrote:The future of LA sports..He looks like a young Sean Penn. by ramsman34 4 years 6 months ago Total posts: 10043 Joined: Apr 16 2015 Back in LA baby! Moderator Best QB in LA POST #18 TOPIC AUTHOR aeneas1 wrote:how many "transcendent talents" have the rams fielded at the qb position in their 84 year history? how many "transcendent talents" has each team fielded at qb in their franchise history?i dig herbert, and allen too, love their size and seemingly high ceilings, i dig jackson, mahomes, watson and especially wilson, serious athletic talent from head to toe... but for every transcendent talent that has hit the nfl, far more have either not come close or shined for a brief while only to fade into also-rans.933 qbs have been drafted since 1960, countless other qbs have joined the league as ufa, of which only 32 own a super bowl ring, while only 11 own more than one.the notion that the rams need that elite phenom to succeed, that all they have to do is go out and get that elite phenom, just strikes me as fan craziness.will herbert, allen, jackson, watson, mahomes, or lawrence deliver multiple lombardi trophies to their fanbases? maybe, maybe not - brees has delivered just one, so has rodgers, so has wilson.. favre, namath, dawson, and young only managed one as well - marino, kelly, tarkenton, fouts, moon, jurgensen, anderson, gabriel, mcnair, lamonica, etc., etc., etc., nada.maybe what most fans really want is a qb that's praised by the talking heads week in and week out, a general consensus top 3 qb that the nfl world marvels at, and why wouldn't they, but to think a guy like this is a shoe-in championship winner, let alone a multiple championship winner, which seems to be what more than a few think, is crazy to me.hell, if i had a buck for every time i've heard seahawk fans whine about wilson, say that it's time to move on (not sure that it was ever louder than post super bowl 49), i'd recoup my kids' college tuition.I was making a point about exactly what you stated with all those QBs - elite tariffs and high ceilingsI totally agree we don’t need elite/transcendent. A more mobile athlete would be nice - don’t need that either. Goff can win big. But he needs the help we have all seen fail around him this season and last: much better protection/OL play, top flight run game, better scheme/game plans/play calling. And improve STs to at least middling/respectable. The D is there, the skill positions are good - could use some elite speed. by ramsman34 4 years 6 months ago Total posts: 10043 Joined: Apr 16 2015 Back in LA baby! Moderator Best QB in LA POST #19 TOPIC AUTHOR AvengerRam wrote:He looks like a young Sean Penn.qb spicoli.pngWe have Sean Penn and Ryan Gosling at QB - no wonder our offense blows. by moklerman 4 years 6 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Best QB in LA POST #20 AvengerRam wrote:RG3 was an impressive rookie.So was Carson Wentz.So was Baker Mayfield.Sometimes it lasts. Other times, not so much.He's off to a good start. We'll see where it goes from there.Granted, no one can see the future but RGIII was destined to fail if he ever lost his legs. Wentz was still good up to last year before losing everyone on offense this year. He'll still be good if he gets traded/gets to play. Baker's doing pretty well, isn't he?I don't see any gimmicks or obvious potential problems with Herbert. It seems as though he's succeeding because he sees the field and makes good passes. Reply 2 / 4 1 2 4 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 40 posts Jul 26 2025
by ramsman34 4 years 6 months ago Total posts: 10043 Joined: Apr 16 2015 Back in LA baby! Moderator Best QB in LA POST #18 TOPIC AUTHOR aeneas1 wrote:how many "transcendent talents" have the rams fielded at the qb position in their 84 year history? how many "transcendent talents" has each team fielded at qb in their franchise history?i dig herbert, and allen too, love their size and seemingly high ceilings, i dig jackson, mahomes, watson and especially wilson, serious athletic talent from head to toe... but for every transcendent talent that has hit the nfl, far more have either not come close or shined for a brief while only to fade into also-rans.933 qbs have been drafted since 1960, countless other qbs have joined the league as ufa, of which only 32 own a super bowl ring, while only 11 own more than one.the notion that the rams need that elite phenom to succeed, that all they have to do is go out and get that elite phenom, just strikes me as fan craziness.will herbert, allen, jackson, watson, mahomes, or lawrence deliver multiple lombardi trophies to their fanbases? maybe, maybe not - brees has delivered just one, so has rodgers, so has wilson.. favre, namath, dawson, and young only managed one as well - marino, kelly, tarkenton, fouts, moon, jurgensen, anderson, gabriel, mcnair, lamonica, etc., etc., etc., nada.maybe what most fans really want is a qb that's praised by the talking heads week in and week out, a general consensus top 3 qb that the nfl world marvels at, and why wouldn't they, but to think a guy like this is a shoe-in championship winner, let alone a multiple championship winner, which seems to be what more than a few think, is crazy to me.hell, if i had a buck for every time i've heard seahawk fans whine about wilson, say that it's time to move on (not sure that it was ever louder than post super bowl 49), i'd recoup my kids' college tuition.I was making a point about exactly what you stated with all those QBs - elite tariffs and high ceilingsI totally agree we don’t need elite/transcendent. A more mobile athlete would be nice - don’t need that either. Goff can win big. But he needs the help we have all seen fail around him this season and last: much better protection/OL play, top flight run game, better scheme/game plans/play calling. And improve STs to at least middling/respectable. The D is there, the skill positions are good - could use some elite speed. by ramsman34 4 years 6 months ago Total posts: 10043 Joined: Apr 16 2015 Back in LA baby! Moderator Best QB in LA POST #19 TOPIC AUTHOR AvengerRam wrote:He looks like a young Sean Penn.qb spicoli.pngWe have Sean Penn and Ryan Gosling at QB - no wonder our offense blows. by moklerman 4 years 6 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Best QB in LA POST #20 AvengerRam wrote:RG3 was an impressive rookie.So was Carson Wentz.So was Baker Mayfield.Sometimes it lasts. Other times, not so much.He's off to a good start. We'll see where it goes from there.Granted, no one can see the future but RGIII was destined to fail if he ever lost his legs. Wentz was still good up to last year before losing everyone on offense this year. He'll still be good if he gets traded/gets to play. Baker's doing pretty well, isn't he?I don't see any gimmicks or obvious potential problems with Herbert. It seems as though he's succeeding because he sees the field and makes good passes. Reply 2 / 4 1 2 4 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 40 posts Jul 26 2025
by ramsman34 4 years 6 months ago Total posts: 10043 Joined: Apr 16 2015 Back in LA baby! Moderator Best QB in LA POST #19 TOPIC AUTHOR AvengerRam wrote:He looks like a young Sean Penn.qb spicoli.pngWe have Sean Penn and Ryan Gosling at QB - no wonder our offense blows. by moklerman 4 years 6 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Best QB in LA POST #20 AvengerRam wrote:RG3 was an impressive rookie.So was Carson Wentz.So was Baker Mayfield.Sometimes it lasts. Other times, not so much.He's off to a good start. We'll see where it goes from there.Granted, no one can see the future but RGIII was destined to fail if he ever lost his legs. Wentz was still good up to last year before losing everyone on offense this year. He'll still be good if he gets traded/gets to play. Baker's doing pretty well, isn't he?I don't see any gimmicks or obvious potential problems with Herbert. It seems as though he's succeeding because he sees the field and makes good passes. Reply 2 / 4 1 2 4 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 40 posts Jul 26 2025
by moklerman 4 years 6 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Best QB in LA POST #20 AvengerRam wrote:RG3 was an impressive rookie.So was Carson Wentz.So was Baker Mayfield.Sometimes it lasts. Other times, not so much.He's off to a good start. We'll see where it goes from there.Granted, no one can see the future but RGIII was destined to fail if he ever lost his legs. Wentz was still good up to last year before losing everyone on offense this year. He'll still be good if he gets traded/gets to play. Baker's doing pretty well, isn't he?I don't see any gimmicks or obvious potential problems with Herbert. It seems as though he's succeeding because he sees the field and makes good passes. Reply 2 / 4 1 2 4 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business