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 by majik
4 years 6 months ago
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United States of America   New Jersey
Pro Bowl

Teams are moving off highly drafted QBs quicker than ever before. I think Goff has 2021 to show something or they move on. If they cut him after the 2021 season, it costs them $1.6M less in cap space than it is to have him in the roster. Snead has been forward thinking is his view of dead cap space, as demonstrated with Gurley and Cooks. If Wolford starts Sunday and wins, Goff’s leash gets real tight for 2021. I look at cap management like Snead, that Goff’s cap is a sunk cost, and if Wolford or a Fitz gives you a better chance of winning then Goff becomes the most expensive backup in the league with Wentz.

 by AvengerRam
4 years 6 months ago
 Total posts:   8921  
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Israel   Lake Mary, Florida
Hall of Fame

Herbert has a 96.3 passer rating on a team that is 3 games below .500.

Let's see how this plays out in the long run.

 by moklerman
4 years 6 months ago
 Total posts:   7680  
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United States of America   Bakersfield, CA
Hall of Fame

AvengerRam wrote:Herbert has a 96.3 passer rating on a team that is 3 games below .500.

Let's see how this plays out in the long run.
Doesn't that work in his favor? I think there's plenty to be impressed with. He just broke the rookie TD record in less than a season.

 by AvengerRam
4 years 6 months ago
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Israel   Lake Mary, Florida
Hall of Fame

moklerman wrote:Doesn't that work in his favor? I think there's plenty to be impressed with. He just broke the rookie TD record in less than a season.

RG3 was an impressive rookie.
So was Carson Wentz.
So was Baker Mayfield.

Sometimes it lasts. Other times, not so much.

He's off to a good start. We'll see where it goes from there.

 by BuiltRamTough
4 years 6 months ago
 Total posts:   5357  
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Armenia   Los Angeles
Hall of Fame

The future of LA sports..
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 by St. Loser Fan
4 years 6 months ago
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United States of America   Saint Louis MO
Hall of Fame

He’s available. /jk


 by AvengerRam
4 years 6 months ago
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Israel   Lake Mary, Florida
Hall of Fame

BuiltRamTough wrote:The future of LA sports..

He looks like a young Sean Penn.
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 by ramsman34
4 years 6 months ago
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United States of America   Back in LA baby!
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aeneas1 wrote:how many "transcendent talents" have the rams fielded at the qb position in their 84 year history? how many "transcendent talents" has each team fielded at qb in their franchise history?

i dig herbert, and allen too, love their size and seemingly high ceilings, i dig jackson, mahomes, watson and especially wilson, serious athletic talent from head to toe... but for every transcendent talent that has hit the nfl, far more have either not come close or shined for a brief while only to fade into also-rans.

933 qbs have been drafted since 1960, countless other qbs have joined the league as ufa, of which only 32 own a super bowl ring, while only 11 own more than one.

the notion that the rams need that elite phenom to succeed, that all they have to do is go out and get that elite phenom, just strikes me as fan craziness.

will herbert, allen, jackson, watson, mahomes, or lawrence deliver multiple lombardi trophies to their fanbases? maybe, maybe not - brees has delivered just one, so has rodgers, so has wilson.. favre, namath, dawson, and young only managed one as well - marino, kelly, tarkenton, fouts, moon, jurgensen, anderson, gabriel, mcnair, lamonica, etc., etc., etc., nada.

maybe what most fans really want is a qb that's praised by the talking heads week in and week out, a general consensus top 3 qb that the nfl world marvels at, and why wouldn't they, but to think a guy like this is a shoe-in championship winner, let alone a multiple championship winner, which seems to be what more than a few think, is crazy to me.

hell, if i had a buck for every time i've heard seahawk fans whine about wilson, say that it's time to move on (not sure that it was ever louder than post super bowl 49), i'd recoup my kids' college tuition.


I was making a point about exactly what you stated with all those QBs - elite tariffs and high ceilings

I totally agree we don’t need elite/transcendent. A more mobile athlete would be nice - don’t need that either.

Goff can win big. But he needs the help we have all seen fail around him this season and last: much better protection/OL play, top flight run game, better scheme/game plans/play calling.

And improve STs to at least middling/respectable.

The D is there, the skill positions are good - could use some elite speed.

 by ramsman34
4 years 6 months ago
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United States of America   Back in LA baby!
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AvengerRam wrote:He looks like a young Sean Penn.
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We have Sean Penn and Ryan Gosling at QB - no wonder our offense blows.

 by moklerman
4 years 6 months ago
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United States of America   Bakersfield, CA
Hall of Fame

AvengerRam wrote:RG3 was an impressive rookie.
So was Carson Wentz.
So was Baker Mayfield.

Sometimes it lasts. Other times, not so much.

He's off to a good start. We'll see where it goes from there.
Granted, no one can see the future but RGIII was destined to fail if he ever lost his legs. Wentz was still good up to last year before losing everyone on offense this year. He'll still be good if he gets traded/gets to play. Baker's doing pretty well, isn't he?

I don't see any gimmicks or obvious potential problems with Herbert. It seems as though he's succeeding because he sees the field and makes good passes.

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