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 by LoyalRam
9 years 6 months ago
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United States of America   LA Coliseum
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OldSchool wrote:I haven't looked closely at the SD and Oak "proposals" but how would splitting Stans relocation fee help those two cities. Spanos is also likely to try to wrangle some kind of market fee for the Rams coming into his perceived territory.


Doesn't the guidelines say somethuing like a 75 mile radius for a home market area? Spanos can pound sand.

 by LoyalRam
9 years 6 months ago
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 Joined:  Jul 21 2015
United States of America   LA Coliseum
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Elvis wrote:I don't think the polls Kroenke cited mean a lot. None were scientific, all just online polls conducted by the Times or ESPN. Yeah L.A. wants the Rams (and the Raiders) way more than they want the Chargers, but over time the Chargers would do just fine. Any team would. We're talking about NFL football.

But i also think Dean could easily stay in SD and be a hero. All would be forgiven in a heartbeat...


This is what I think. I think it will be a challenge to get people out of their mancaves consistently to see the Chargers and the Rams (80,000). Rams would be something new to LA and is also historical at the same time. Lots of Raider fans would NOT become Chargers fans in LA,especially if there was a non-rival option like the Rams. All would be forgiven if Spanos stayed with the Chargers in SD, especially if he extracted enough cash from the NFL and Kroenke to help build in San Diego. It's just crazy that a market like San Diego would be abandoned. I lived in San Diego and LA, and I can tell you that San Diegans get pissed if you associate them with LA in anyway. Also, Spanos doesn't have the jack to pay his share AND the relocation fee in Inglewood....
It just smells like a ploy by Spanos, still.

As for t5he Raiders, screw them..Beggars get what they get.

 by moklerman
9 years 6 months ago
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United States of America   Bakersfield, CA
Hall of Fame

That's the faulty logic in his argument. He's trying to block anyone from moving to LA because that will impact, supposedly, 25% of his fan base. Well, if he moves away from SD, how much of his fan base will be impacted? San Diegans sure as hell aren't going to root for an LA team, even if it is the Chargers. So, is he willing to throw away all/most of the fans in SD for what looks like very little support in LA?

Doesn't seem likely. Not to mention the dead horse I keep beating. If Spanos leaves SD, it's not his market anymore and I think it will be swooped up very quickly by relocation or expansion.

 by Pancake
9 years 6 months ago
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United States of America   LA Coliseum
Practice Squad

Spanos doesn't understand how the average fans brain works. The 25% of SD fans that come from LA will still be SD fans no matter what team moves to LA. Sports fans are incredibly loyal in most cases unless the owner is a douche and moves the team. But even then a lot of them return as a fan once they get over the shock. When the Rams moved every fan I knew, including myself had swore them off initially but within a year we were wearing our St.Louis hats and jerseys and once again rooting for the Rams.

 by Stranger
9 years 6 months ago
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 Joined:  Aug 12 2015
United States of America   Norcal
Superstar

moklerman wrote:That's the faulty logic in his argument. He's trying to block anyone from moving to LA because that will impact, supposedly, 25% of his fan base. Well, if he moves away from SD, how much of his fan base will be impacted? San Diegans sure as hell aren't going to root for an LA team, even if it is the Chargers. So, is he willing to throw away all/most of the fans in SD for what looks like very little support in LA?

Doesn't seem likely. Not to mention the dead horse I keep beating. If Spanos leaves SD, it's not his market anymore and I think it will be swooped up very quickly by relocation or expansion.

Give moklerman a Gold star !!!

But I don't think it's faulty logic, I just think it's made-up PR noise in order to create a narrative. He ain't moving. Just like it didn't make any sense for ESK to stay in StL, it doesn't make any sense for Spanos to leave SD.

 by moklerman
9 years 6 months ago
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United States of America   Bakersfield, CA
Hall of Fame

It seems so simple to me. Rams move back to LA, pay the ridiculous $550M relocation fee, that money is "given" to the Chargers and Raiders in some way, which acts as a substitute G4 type loan, they both get new stadiums in their own markets largely financed by non-public money, the owners then get that re-location money back with interest, Stan essentially gets 3 stadiums built and all is well in California where just a couple of years ago, they had the most dilapidated stadiums in the league.

 by SWAdude
9 years 6 months ago
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 Joined:  Sep 21 2015
United States of America   LA Coliseum
Pro Bowl

Pancake wrote:Spanos doesn't understand how the average fans brain works. The 25% of SD fans that come from LA will still be SD fans no matter what team moves to LA. Sports fans are incredibly loyal in most cases unless the owner is a douche and moves the team. But even then a lot of them return as a fan once they get over the shock. When the Rams moved every fan I knew, including myself had swore them off initially but within a year we were wearing our St.Louis hats and jerseys and once again rooting for the Rams.


This is exactly right except.........

He knows how fans minds work. His fan base didn't change an iota when the Rams left. I have never ran into a true blue (and Gold) Ram fan that said: " I use to be a Rams fan until they left LA. Then I became a .............(fill in the blank) fan.

Spanos is playing poker as well.

 by The Ripper
9 years 6 months ago
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United States of America   Naples, FL
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bluecoconuts wrote:I think Spanos has burned enough bridges he can't go back. Chargers will be successful in LA.

If, and I stress if, the Rams go to LA I think this is how it happens:

Rams and Chargers are approved for relocation, Raiders aren't. This breaks up the Raiders and Chargers partnership, and forces Kroenke and Spanos together. This is likely the only way that Spanos will agree to talk to Kroenke, because as long as he has the Raiders, he doesn't need the Rams.

The Chargers could then, in theory, return to San Diego, but more likely they will partner with Kroenke.

Rams and Chargers move, Iger comes with, Policy does not, Raiders are funneled relocation money to build their stadium.

Other scenario would be Rams are turned down.

If the Chargers stay,Dean will fully retire and Fabiani will be gone so the the animosity will end.

 by dieterbrock
9 years 6 months ago
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United States of America   New Jersey
Hall of Fame

San Diego filled the stands for the final game, unlike somewhere I can think of....
The fans wouldnt cast aspersions if the team stayed, now if they leave on the other hand

 by Stranger
9 years 6 months ago
 Total posts:   3213  
 Joined:  Aug 12 2015
United States of America   Norcal
Superstar

This reporter is reading our board...

http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/sports/ ... 59151.html
My best guess is the Bolts are staying in San Diego. Well, for at least another year, anyway. Read on to see the logic in this.

Here’s how I see this going down: Kroenke’s Inglewood project is going to win the vote. However that does not mean fans in San Diego or Oakland are out of the woods yet. Logistically, there really is only room for one team to move to L.A. until a new stadium is built

When the Rams win the vote and Inglewood is the chosen sight, the league will offer Dean a spot in it, just not right away. Logistically it’s just too much to ask to move two teams on an interim basis to L.A., so the second team will have either work to get a new deal done in its home market or simply tread water for a while.

he’ll come back to San Diego and, for real this time, try to get a new stadium built here, with help from a large chunk of the estimated $550 million relocation fee Kroenke will have to pay.

I’m putting my money on the Rams winning the stadium vote to build in Inglewood, the Chargers sticking around for at least one more season in San Diego to try and work out a deal Downtown

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