by St. Loser Fan 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 10896 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Rams seeking to borrow up to $500 million more from NFL for stadium POST #11 Elvis wrote:I can’t wait for the hard numbers: or at least somewhat firm numbers that are embarrassing for Spanos. Like I said before, I’d prefer that $500 million get spent in San Diego. by Mr. Sparkle 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 990 Joined: Nov 28 2017 Orange County Ca. Veteran Rams seeking to borrow up to $500 million more from NFL for stadium POST #12 Elvis liked this post I’d be surprised by that as the Chargers ones are basically free ($100). I would think brokers would have snatched them all up to sell. Low risk. As oppose to the same seat for the Rams which is $1,500 RFU Season Ticket Holder 1 by actionjack 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 5195 Joined: May 19 2016 Sactown Hall of Fame Rams seeking to borrow up to $500 million more from NFL for stadium POST #13 Elvis wrote:One interesting side note to this is the salary cap could be substantially lower for 2021. How would that work?Very very curious about this. Wouldnt mind seeing the hand wringing going on if the cap did lower more than a little. Fuk the Niners and Block Purdy by actionjack 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 5195 Joined: May 19 2016 Sactown Hall of Fame Rams seeking to borrow up to $500 million more from NFL for stadium POST #14 CanuckRightWinger wrote:Kroenke's original budgeted $2.2 Billion for construction costs went to north of $5 Billion??!!! Sheesh!!!! Sorry, but that's not just merely "poor project management" there.... In my best aeneas1..."MAMMA MIA!!!" Being in the project management arena, I would say that it is poor management by all involved. Fuk the Niners and Block Purdy by snackdaddy 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 10049 Joined: May 30 2015 Merced California Hall of Fame Rams seeking to borrow up to $500 million more from NFL for stadium POST #15 St. Loser Fan wrote:I can’t wait for the hard numbers: or at least somewhat firm numbers that are embarrassing for Spanos. Like I said before, I’d prefer that $500 million get spent in San Diego.Spanos really screwed the league when he moved to LA. I can't believe they didn't know he had very little support in LA. The Raiders woulda made much more sense. They have a fan base there. Probably similar to the Rams. by St. Loser Fan 5 years 1 month ago Total posts: 10896 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Re: Rams seeking to borrow up to $500 million more from NFL for stadium POST #16 by BobCarl 5 years 1 month ago Total posts: 4657 Joined: Mar 08 2017 LA Coliseum Superstar Rams seeking to borrow up to $500 million more from NFL for stadium POST #17 CanuckRightWinger wrote:Sorry, but that's not just merely "poor project management" there.... Maybe Kroenke has gotten us into playing a shell game?We the fans, the lenders, and the media, are all betting money on what will be the most beautiful shell ever built.The more bets he takes, the more the bettors become responsible for the success under the shell. The NFL and the "lending institutions" can't afford to let him fail, the more they lend to Kroenke the more they are indebted to Kroenke's "shell" generating revenue. In the meantime, the invested money ends up where? Only to physical materials and labor? Just maybe some of this money trickles down into 3rd party and 4th party companies that Kroenke owns. Consulting firms, legal firms, money management firms, architectural firms, marketing firms, insurance firms, technology firms, etc, etc... How many of these other "firms" does Kroenke own?This is how his businesses in London and Denver operate too. Kroenke gets most of his wealth from owning the outlying businesses that his teams pays for services.Ever wonder who Wal-Mart has to pay money to every month? They don't own the land they build their shells on. They rent them. Ever wonder who owns the land that pockets the monthly rental payments? Kroenke does. Attachments ne supra crepidam sutor iudicaret by St. Loser Fan 5 years 1 month ago Total posts: 10896 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Rams seeking to borrow up to $500 million more from NFL for stadium POST #18 The other issue is that when it comes time in Nashville, Carolina, Cincinnati etc they’re going to want the same new level of money for their new stadiums.Then again I think they’re all smart enough to know that LA is a unique situation. by Elvis 5 years 1 month ago Total posts: 41533 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Rams seeking to borrow up to $500 million more from NFL for stadium POST #19 TOPIC AUTHOR RFU Season Ticket Holder by St. Loser Fan 5 years 1 month ago Total posts: 10896 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Rams seeking to borrow up to $500 million more from NFL for stadium POST #20 Elvis wrote:If the $50 million figure is right, that’s stunning. Could this be the first step in ending the Spanos ownership?I wonder what clauses are in the Inglewood agreement if the Chargers don’t come up with the money. Seems odd that it falls at the feet of the Rams. Reply 2 / 5 1 2 5 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 50 posts Jul 16 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by Mr. Sparkle 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 990 Joined: Nov 28 2017 Orange County Ca. Veteran Rams seeking to borrow up to $500 million more from NFL for stadium POST #12 Elvis liked this post I’d be surprised by that as the Chargers ones are basically free ($100). I would think brokers would have snatched them all up to sell. Low risk. As oppose to the same seat for the Rams which is $1,500 RFU Season Ticket Holder 1 by actionjack 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 5195 Joined: May 19 2016 Sactown Hall of Fame Rams seeking to borrow up to $500 million more from NFL for stadium POST #13 Elvis wrote:One interesting side note to this is the salary cap could be substantially lower for 2021. How would that work?Very very curious about this. Wouldnt mind seeing the hand wringing going on if the cap did lower more than a little. Fuk the Niners and Block Purdy by actionjack 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 5195 Joined: May 19 2016 Sactown Hall of Fame Rams seeking to borrow up to $500 million more from NFL for stadium POST #14 CanuckRightWinger wrote:Kroenke's original budgeted $2.2 Billion for construction costs went to north of $5 Billion??!!! Sheesh!!!! Sorry, but that's not just merely "poor project management" there.... In my best aeneas1..."MAMMA MIA!!!" Being in the project management arena, I would say that it is poor management by all involved. Fuk the Niners and Block Purdy by snackdaddy 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 10049 Joined: May 30 2015 Merced California Hall of Fame Rams seeking to borrow up to $500 million more from NFL for stadium POST #15 St. Loser Fan wrote:I can’t wait for the hard numbers: or at least somewhat firm numbers that are embarrassing for Spanos. Like I said before, I’d prefer that $500 million get spent in San Diego.Spanos really screwed the league when he moved to LA. I can't believe they didn't know he had very little support in LA. The Raiders woulda made much more sense. They have a fan base there. Probably similar to the Rams. by St. Loser Fan 5 years 1 month ago Total posts: 10896 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Re: Rams seeking to borrow up to $500 million more from NFL for stadium POST #16 by BobCarl 5 years 1 month ago Total posts: 4657 Joined: Mar 08 2017 LA Coliseum Superstar Rams seeking to borrow up to $500 million more from NFL for stadium POST #17 CanuckRightWinger wrote:Sorry, but that's not just merely "poor project management" there.... Maybe Kroenke has gotten us into playing a shell game?We the fans, the lenders, and the media, are all betting money on what will be the most beautiful shell ever built.The more bets he takes, the more the bettors become responsible for the success under the shell. The NFL and the "lending institutions" can't afford to let him fail, the more they lend to Kroenke the more they are indebted to Kroenke's "shell" generating revenue. In the meantime, the invested money ends up where? Only to physical materials and labor? Just maybe some of this money trickles down into 3rd party and 4th party companies that Kroenke owns. Consulting firms, legal firms, money management firms, architectural firms, marketing firms, insurance firms, technology firms, etc, etc... How many of these other "firms" does Kroenke own?This is how his businesses in London and Denver operate too. Kroenke gets most of his wealth from owning the outlying businesses that his teams pays for services.Ever wonder who Wal-Mart has to pay money to every month? They don't own the land they build their shells on. They rent them. Ever wonder who owns the land that pockets the monthly rental payments? Kroenke does. Attachments ne supra crepidam sutor iudicaret by St. Loser Fan 5 years 1 month ago Total posts: 10896 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Rams seeking to borrow up to $500 million more from NFL for stadium POST #18 The other issue is that when it comes time in Nashville, Carolina, Cincinnati etc they’re going to want the same new level of money for their new stadiums.Then again I think they’re all smart enough to know that LA is a unique situation. by Elvis 5 years 1 month ago Total posts: 41533 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Rams seeking to borrow up to $500 million more from NFL for stadium POST #19 TOPIC AUTHOR RFU Season Ticket Holder by St. Loser Fan 5 years 1 month ago Total posts: 10896 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Rams seeking to borrow up to $500 million more from NFL for stadium POST #20 Elvis wrote:If the $50 million figure is right, that’s stunning. Could this be the first step in ending the Spanos ownership?I wonder what clauses are in the Inglewood agreement if the Chargers don’t come up with the money. Seems odd that it falls at the feet of the Rams. Reply 2 / 5 1 2 5 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 50 posts Jul 16 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by actionjack 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 5195 Joined: May 19 2016 Sactown Hall of Fame Rams seeking to borrow up to $500 million more from NFL for stadium POST #13 Elvis wrote:One interesting side note to this is the salary cap could be substantially lower for 2021. How would that work?Very very curious about this. Wouldnt mind seeing the hand wringing going on if the cap did lower more than a little. Fuk the Niners and Block Purdy by actionjack 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 5195 Joined: May 19 2016 Sactown Hall of Fame Rams seeking to borrow up to $500 million more from NFL for stadium POST #14 CanuckRightWinger wrote:Kroenke's original budgeted $2.2 Billion for construction costs went to north of $5 Billion??!!! Sheesh!!!! Sorry, but that's not just merely "poor project management" there.... In my best aeneas1..."MAMMA MIA!!!" Being in the project management arena, I would say that it is poor management by all involved. Fuk the Niners and Block Purdy by snackdaddy 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 10049 Joined: May 30 2015 Merced California Hall of Fame Rams seeking to borrow up to $500 million more from NFL for stadium POST #15 St. Loser Fan wrote:I can’t wait for the hard numbers: or at least somewhat firm numbers that are embarrassing for Spanos. Like I said before, I’d prefer that $500 million get spent in San Diego.Spanos really screwed the league when he moved to LA. I can't believe they didn't know he had very little support in LA. The Raiders woulda made much more sense. They have a fan base there. Probably similar to the Rams. by St. Loser Fan 5 years 1 month ago Total posts: 10896 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Re: Rams seeking to borrow up to $500 million more from NFL for stadium POST #16 by BobCarl 5 years 1 month ago Total posts: 4657 Joined: Mar 08 2017 LA Coliseum Superstar Rams seeking to borrow up to $500 million more from NFL for stadium POST #17 CanuckRightWinger wrote:Sorry, but that's not just merely "poor project management" there.... Maybe Kroenke has gotten us into playing a shell game?We the fans, the lenders, and the media, are all betting money on what will be the most beautiful shell ever built.The more bets he takes, the more the bettors become responsible for the success under the shell. The NFL and the "lending institutions" can't afford to let him fail, the more they lend to Kroenke the more they are indebted to Kroenke's "shell" generating revenue. In the meantime, the invested money ends up where? Only to physical materials and labor? Just maybe some of this money trickles down into 3rd party and 4th party companies that Kroenke owns. Consulting firms, legal firms, money management firms, architectural firms, marketing firms, insurance firms, technology firms, etc, etc... How many of these other "firms" does Kroenke own?This is how his businesses in London and Denver operate too. Kroenke gets most of his wealth from owning the outlying businesses that his teams pays for services.Ever wonder who Wal-Mart has to pay money to every month? They don't own the land they build their shells on. They rent them. Ever wonder who owns the land that pockets the monthly rental payments? Kroenke does. Attachments ne supra crepidam sutor iudicaret by St. Loser Fan 5 years 1 month ago Total posts: 10896 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Rams seeking to borrow up to $500 million more from NFL for stadium POST #18 The other issue is that when it comes time in Nashville, Carolina, Cincinnati etc they’re going to want the same new level of money for their new stadiums.Then again I think they’re all smart enough to know that LA is a unique situation. by Elvis 5 years 1 month ago Total posts: 41533 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Rams seeking to borrow up to $500 million more from NFL for stadium POST #19 TOPIC AUTHOR RFU Season Ticket Holder by St. Loser Fan 5 years 1 month ago Total posts: 10896 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Rams seeking to borrow up to $500 million more from NFL for stadium POST #20 Elvis wrote:If the $50 million figure is right, that’s stunning. Could this be the first step in ending the Spanos ownership?I wonder what clauses are in the Inglewood agreement if the Chargers don’t come up with the money. Seems odd that it falls at the feet of the Rams. Reply 2 / 5 1 2 5 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 50 posts Jul 16 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by actionjack 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 5195 Joined: May 19 2016 Sactown Hall of Fame Rams seeking to borrow up to $500 million more from NFL for stadium POST #14 CanuckRightWinger wrote:Kroenke's original budgeted $2.2 Billion for construction costs went to north of $5 Billion??!!! Sheesh!!!! Sorry, but that's not just merely "poor project management" there.... In my best aeneas1..."MAMMA MIA!!!" Being in the project management arena, I would say that it is poor management by all involved. Fuk the Niners and Block Purdy by snackdaddy 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 10049 Joined: May 30 2015 Merced California Hall of Fame Rams seeking to borrow up to $500 million more from NFL for stadium POST #15 St. Loser Fan wrote:I can’t wait for the hard numbers: or at least somewhat firm numbers that are embarrassing for Spanos. Like I said before, I’d prefer that $500 million get spent in San Diego.Spanos really screwed the league when he moved to LA. I can't believe they didn't know he had very little support in LA. The Raiders woulda made much more sense. They have a fan base there. Probably similar to the Rams. by St. Loser Fan 5 years 1 month ago Total posts: 10896 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Re: Rams seeking to borrow up to $500 million more from NFL for stadium POST #16 by BobCarl 5 years 1 month ago Total posts: 4657 Joined: Mar 08 2017 LA Coliseum Superstar Rams seeking to borrow up to $500 million more from NFL for stadium POST #17 CanuckRightWinger wrote:Sorry, but that's not just merely "poor project management" there.... Maybe Kroenke has gotten us into playing a shell game?We the fans, the lenders, and the media, are all betting money on what will be the most beautiful shell ever built.The more bets he takes, the more the bettors become responsible for the success under the shell. The NFL and the "lending institutions" can't afford to let him fail, the more they lend to Kroenke the more they are indebted to Kroenke's "shell" generating revenue. In the meantime, the invested money ends up where? Only to physical materials and labor? Just maybe some of this money trickles down into 3rd party and 4th party companies that Kroenke owns. Consulting firms, legal firms, money management firms, architectural firms, marketing firms, insurance firms, technology firms, etc, etc... How many of these other "firms" does Kroenke own?This is how his businesses in London and Denver operate too. Kroenke gets most of his wealth from owning the outlying businesses that his teams pays for services.Ever wonder who Wal-Mart has to pay money to every month? They don't own the land they build their shells on. They rent them. Ever wonder who owns the land that pockets the monthly rental payments? Kroenke does. Attachments ne supra crepidam sutor iudicaret by St. Loser Fan 5 years 1 month ago Total posts: 10896 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Rams seeking to borrow up to $500 million more from NFL for stadium POST #18 The other issue is that when it comes time in Nashville, Carolina, Cincinnati etc they’re going to want the same new level of money for their new stadiums.Then again I think they’re all smart enough to know that LA is a unique situation. by Elvis 5 years 1 month ago Total posts: 41533 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Rams seeking to borrow up to $500 million more from NFL for stadium POST #19 TOPIC AUTHOR RFU Season Ticket Holder by St. Loser Fan 5 years 1 month ago Total posts: 10896 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Rams seeking to borrow up to $500 million more from NFL for stadium POST #20 Elvis wrote:If the $50 million figure is right, that’s stunning. Could this be the first step in ending the Spanos ownership?I wonder what clauses are in the Inglewood agreement if the Chargers don’t come up with the money. Seems odd that it falls at the feet of the Rams. Reply 2 / 5 1 2 5 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 50 posts Jul 16 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by snackdaddy 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 10049 Joined: May 30 2015 Merced California Hall of Fame Rams seeking to borrow up to $500 million more from NFL for stadium POST #15 St. Loser Fan wrote:I can’t wait for the hard numbers: or at least somewhat firm numbers that are embarrassing for Spanos. Like I said before, I’d prefer that $500 million get spent in San Diego.Spanos really screwed the league when he moved to LA. I can't believe they didn't know he had very little support in LA. The Raiders woulda made much more sense. They have a fan base there. Probably similar to the Rams. by St. Loser Fan 5 years 1 month ago Total posts: 10896 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Re: Rams seeking to borrow up to $500 million more from NFL for stadium POST #16 by BobCarl 5 years 1 month ago Total posts: 4657 Joined: Mar 08 2017 LA Coliseum Superstar Rams seeking to borrow up to $500 million more from NFL for stadium POST #17 CanuckRightWinger wrote:Sorry, but that's not just merely "poor project management" there.... Maybe Kroenke has gotten us into playing a shell game?We the fans, the lenders, and the media, are all betting money on what will be the most beautiful shell ever built.The more bets he takes, the more the bettors become responsible for the success under the shell. The NFL and the "lending institutions" can't afford to let him fail, the more they lend to Kroenke the more they are indebted to Kroenke's "shell" generating revenue. In the meantime, the invested money ends up where? Only to physical materials and labor? Just maybe some of this money trickles down into 3rd party and 4th party companies that Kroenke owns. Consulting firms, legal firms, money management firms, architectural firms, marketing firms, insurance firms, technology firms, etc, etc... How many of these other "firms" does Kroenke own?This is how his businesses in London and Denver operate too. Kroenke gets most of his wealth from owning the outlying businesses that his teams pays for services.Ever wonder who Wal-Mart has to pay money to every month? They don't own the land they build their shells on. They rent them. Ever wonder who owns the land that pockets the monthly rental payments? Kroenke does. Attachments ne supra crepidam sutor iudicaret by St. Loser Fan 5 years 1 month ago Total posts: 10896 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Rams seeking to borrow up to $500 million more from NFL for stadium POST #18 The other issue is that when it comes time in Nashville, Carolina, Cincinnati etc they’re going to want the same new level of money for their new stadiums.Then again I think they’re all smart enough to know that LA is a unique situation. by Elvis 5 years 1 month ago Total posts: 41533 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Rams seeking to borrow up to $500 million more from NFL for stadium POST #19 TOPIC AUTHOR RFU Season Ticket Holder by St. Loser Fan 5 years 1 month ago Total posts: 10896 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Rams seeking to borrow up to $500 million more from NFL for stadium POST #20 Elvis wrote:If the $50 million figure is right, that’s stunning. Could this be the first step in ending the Spanos ownership?I wonder what clauses are in the Inglewood agreement if the Chargers don’t come up with the money. Seems odd that it falls at the feet of the Rams. Reply 2 / 5 1 2 5 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 50 posts Jul 16 2025
by St. Loser Fan 5 years 1 month ago Total posts: 10896 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Re: Rams seeking to borrow up to $500 million more from NFL for stadium POST #16 by BobCarl 5 years 1 month ago Total posts: 4657 Joined: Mar 08 2017 LA Coliseum Superstar Rams seeking to borrow up to $500 million more from NFL for stadium POST #17 CanuckRightWinger wrote:Sorry, but that's not just merely "poor project management" there.... Maybe Kroenke has gotten us into playing a shell game?We the fans, the lenders, and the media, are all betting money on what will be the most beautiful shell ever built.The more bets he takes, the more the bettors become responsible for the success under the shell. The NFL and the "lending institutions" can't afford to let him fail, the more they lend to Kroenke the more they are indebted to Kroenke's "shell" generating revenue. In the meantime, the invested money ends up where? Only to physical materials and labor? Just maybe some of this money trickles down into 3rd party and 4th party companies that Kroenke owns. Consulting firms, legal firms, money management firms, architectural firms, marketing firms, insurance firms, technology firms, etc, etc... How many of these other "firms" does Kroenke own?This is how his businesses in London and Denver operate too. Kroenke gets most of his wealth from owning the outlying businesses that his teams pays for services.Ever wonder who Wal-Mart has to pay money to every month? They don't own the land they build their shells on. They rent them. Ever wonder who owns the land that pockets the monthly rental payments? Kroenke does. Attachments ne supra crepidam sutor iudicaret by St. Loser Fan 5 years 1 month ago Total posts: 10896 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Rams seeking to borrow up to $500 million more from NFL for stadium POST #18 The other issue is that when it comes time in Nashville, Carolina, Cincinnati etc they’re going to want the same new level of money for their new stadiums.Then again I think they’re all smart enough to know that LA is a unique situation. by Elvis 5 years 1 month ago Total posts: 41533 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Rams seeking to borrow up to $500 million more from NFL for stadium POST #19 TOPIC AUTHOR RFU Season Ticket Holder by St. Loser Fan 5 years 1 month ago Total posts: 10896 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Rams seeking to borrow up to $500 million more from NFL for stadium POST #20 Elvis wrote:If the $50 million figure is right, that’s stunning. Could this be the first step in ending the Spanos ownership?I wonder what clauses are in the Inglewood agreement if the Chargers don’t come up with the money. Seems odd that it falls at the feet of the Rams. Reply 2 / 5 1 2 5 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 50 posts Jul 16 2025
by BobCarl 5 years 1 month ago Total posts: 4657 Joined: Mar 08 2017 LA Coliseum Superstar Rams seeking to borrow up to $500 million more from NFL for stadium POST #17 CanuckRightWinger wrote:Sorry, but that's not just merely "poor project management" there.... Maybe Kroenke has gotten us into playing a shell game?We the fans, the lenders, and the media, are all betting money on what will be the most beautiful shell ever built.The more bets he takes, the more the bettors become responsible for the success under the shell. The NFL and the "lending institutions" can't afford to let him fail, the more they lend to Kroenke the more they are indebted to Kroenke's "shell" generating revenue. In the meantime, the invested money ends up where? Only to physical materials and labor? Just maybe some of this money trickles down into 3rd party and 4th party companies that Kroenke owns. Consulting firms, legal firms, money management firms, architectural firms, marketing firms, insurance firms, technology firms, etc, etc... How many of these other "firms" does Kroenke own?This is how his businesses in London and Denver operate too. Kroenke gets most of his wealth from owning the outlying businesses that his teams pays for services.Ever wonder who Wal-Mart has to pay money to every month? They don't own the land they build their shells on. They rent them. Ever wonder who owns the land that pockets the monthly rental payments? Kroenke does. Attachments ne supra crepidam sutor iudicaret by St. Loser Fan 5 years 1 month ago Total posts: 10896 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Rams seeking to borrow up to $500 million more from NFL for stadium POST #18 The other issue is that when it comes time in Nashville, Carolina, Cincinnati etc they’re going to want the same new level of money for their new stadiums.Then again I think they’re all smart enough to know that LA is a unique situation. by Elvis 5 years 1 month ago Total posts: 41533 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Rams seeking to borrow up to $500 million more from NFL for stadium POST #19 TOPIC AUTHOR RFU Season Ticket Holder by St. Loser Fan 5 years 1 month ago Total posts: 10896 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Rams seeking to borrow up to $500 million more from NFL for stadium POST #20 Elvis wrote:If the $50 million figure is right, that’s stunning. Could this be the first step in ending the Spanos ownership?I wonder what clauses are in the Inglewood agreement if the Chargers don’t come up with the money. Seems odd that it falls at the feet of the Rams. Reply 2 / 5 1 2 5 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 50 posts Jul 16 2025
by St. Loser Fan 5 years 1 month ago Total posts: 10896 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Rams seeking to borrow up to $500 million more from NFL for stadium POST #18 The other issue is that when it comes time in Nashville, Carolina, Cincinnati etc they’re going to want the same new level of money for their new stadiums.Then again I think they’re all smart enough to know that LA is a unique situation. by Elvis 5 years 1 month ago Total posts: 41533 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Rams seeking to borrow up to $500 million more from NFL for stadium POST #19 TOPIC AUTHOR RFU Season Ticket Holder by St. Loser Fan 5 years 1 month ago Total posts: 10896 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Rams seeking to borrow up to $500 million more from NFL for stadium POST #20 Elvis wrote:If the $50 million figure is right, that’s stunning. Could this be the first step in ending the Spanos ownership?I wonder what clauses are in the Inglewood agreement if the Chargers don’t come up with the money. Seems odd that it falls at the feet of the Rams. Reply 2 / 5 1 2 5 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 50 posts Jul 16 2025
by Elvis 5 years 1 month ago Total posts: 41533 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Rams seeking to borrow up to $500 million more from NFL for stadium POST #19 TOPIC AUTHOR RFU Season Ticket Holder by St. Loser Fan 5 years 1 month ago Total posts: 10896 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Rams seeking to borrow up to $500 million more from NFL for stadium POST #20 Elvis wrote:If the $50 million figure is right, that’s stunning. Could this be the first step in ending the Spanos ownership?I wonder what clauses are in the Inglewood agreement if the Chargers don’t come up with the money. Seems odd that it falls at the feet of the Rams. Reply 2 / 5 1 2 5 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 50 posts Jul 16 2025
by St. Loser Fan 5 years 1 month ago Total posts: 10896 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Rams seeking to borrow up to $500 million more from NFL for stadium POST #20 Elvis wrote:If the $50 million figure is right, that’s stunning. Could this be the first step in ending the Spanos ownership?I wonder what clauses are in the Inglewood agreement if the Chargers don’t come up with the money. Seems odd that it falls at the feet of the Rams. Reply 2 / 5 1 2 5 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business