[majik]

I think there's an important distinction between a failure to do something, and an inability to do it.

Right now, its entirely fair to say that McVay has failed to adjust. Time will tell if he is able to do so.

I will agree that failure would better describe the situation, but we are about one full year from last year’s Lions and Bears games where the 6-1 defense was used against us and no counter move by McVay has been made

[SoCalRam78]

I feel as though some fans see the Rams current troubles and think that we're somehow unique. We're not.

Think we're the only team to pay a young QB a lot of money and then see a downturn in performance? We're not. Carson Wentz's passer rating is down 13.6 points from last year (and its dropping in recent weeks), his team is 5-6, and he's injured again.

Think we're the only team to pay a RB top $ and not see the payoff? We're not. Ezekiel Elliott, who just signed a huge deal, has dropped from 101.2 yards per game/4.7 yards per carry, to 83.5 yards per game/4.1 yards per carry (and the Cowboys are not exactly lighting it up this year).

Think we're the only team to get close in 2018, only to step back in 2019? Clearly, we're not. The Chargers (4-7), Eagles (5-6) and Bears (5-6) have all tumbled.

The point is... its hard to sustain success in the NFL. Building a contender, then keeping it together in the face of salary cap restrictions, injuries and age is (the Patriots notwithstanding) exceeding difficult.

The Rams have taken a step back. I believe, however, that we have enough talent to regroup and contend again next year. Who knows... maybe the Eagles, Bears, Chargers and Cowboys will too.

Bears will move on from Mitch Trubisky. Rams are stuck with Goff for at least 3 more seasons.

Elliot doesn't have a chronic knee issue like Gurley.

These other teams didn't trade away a bunch of picks mortgaging their future in a down year.

[SWAdude]

I think there's an important distinction between a failure to do something, and an inability to do it.

Right now, its entirely fair to say that McVay has failed to adjust. Time will tell if he is able to do so.

He really may have no choice.

His once successful offense appears to have a weakness discovered.

And Goff ain't going to throw any side arm passes through a whole in the line for a TD.

Goff is not a play making QB. He is a classic pocket style QB that needs to have a play book he can use those talents. Its just not there this year.

[SoCalRam78]

This is the Rams offense. Unless they want to eat massive dead weight in deals, they are stuck with Gurley for 2 more years after this one, and Goff 3 more years. McVay better figure out something.

[AvengerRam]

Bears will move on from Mitch Trubisky. Rams are stuck with Goff for at least 3 more seasons.

Goff is a much better QB than Trubisky. Not even close.

Elliot doesn't have a chronic knee issue like Gurley.

Not going down this road. Bottom line is, paying Elliott has not translated to success.

These other teams didn't trade away a bunch of picks mortgaging their future in a down year.

Getting a Top 3 CB and trading two who had expiring contracts (thereby clearing some cap space) is not my idea of "mortgaging the future."

[SoCalRam78]

Goff is a much better QB than Trubisky. Not even close.

Not going down this road. Bottom line is, paying Elliott has not translated to success.

Getting a Top 3 CB and trading two who had expiring contracts (thereby clearing some cap space) is not my idea of "mortgaging the future."

You can disregard or not go down that route all you want, but that's the Rams predicament. They paid and extending a back who a year later is a diminished version of his former self with a chronic injury. Many teams choose not to pay running backs because they feel it's a waste of money. Rams did, and that money comes from somewhere. They watched one of the better linemen leave as a free agent and chose to put their eggs into cheap mid round draft choices who were both terrible.

Goff is JAG. He's not an elite QB. Extending him early was brain dead idiotic and doesn't even save them THAT much money.

Ramsey was acquired when they were 3-3 and clearly not a very good team this year. They're 8-0 and super bowl bound and ramsey is a guy that puts them over the top, i'm all for the trade. Basically he provides little value this year because they're not making the playoffs. And just wait till he bitches about a contract. This trade makes more sense if Ramsey was earlier in his rookie deal, but he's literally going into his option year in 2020. Also the picks traded are likely going to be 10-19 range, I don't see them as a playoff team next year either in the NFCW.

[AvengerRam]

You can disregard or not go down that route all you want, but that's the Rams predicament. They paid and extending a back who a year later is a diminished version of his former self with a chronic injury. Many teams choose not to pay running backs because they feel it's a waste of money. Rams did, and that money comes from somewhere. They watched one of the better linemen leave as a free agent and chose to put their eggs into cheap mid round draft choices who were both terrible.

Goff is JAG. He's not an elite QB. Extending him early was brain dead idiotic and doesn't even save them THAT much money.

Ramsey was acquired when they were 3-3 and clearly not a very good team this year. They're 8-0 and super bowl bound and ramsey is a guy that puts them over the top, i'm all for the trade. Basically he provides little value this year because they're not making the playoffs. And just wait till he bitches about a contract. This trade makes more sense if Ramsey was earlier in his rookie deal, but he's literally going into his option year in 2020. Also the picks traded are likely going to be 10-19 range, I don't see them as a playoff team next year either in the NFCW.

We're just going to have to disagree on most of this.

If Gurley is on the downside physically, then his contract will prove unfortunate. I'm not ready to conclude that yet.

Goff is JAG? I strongly disagree with that. There is a lot of real estate between JAG and elite, by the way.

The Rams' pick will likely be in the 15-20 this year. I believe they will be in the playoffs next year after plugging some holes. There's a lot of talent on this roster.

[SWAdude]

We're just going to have to disagree on most of this.

If Gurley is on the downside physically, then his contract will prove unfortunate. I'm not ready to conclude that yet.

Goff is JAG? I strongly disagree with that. There is a lot of real estate between JAG and elite, by the way.

The Rams' pick will likely be in the 15-20 this year. I believe they will be in the playoffs next year after plugging some holes. There's a lot of talent on this roster.

Free agency is going to be the need for a fix if we are talking playoffs next year.

Right now the Rams do not have a first round pick so the 15-20 is more like 47-52 if that is what you are talking about. If we still have a 2nd. Hard to keep track these days.

[AvengerRam]

Free agency is going to be the need for a fix if we are talking playoffs next year.

Right now the Rams do not have a first round pick so the 15-20 is more like 47-52 if that is what you are talking about. If we still have a 2nd. Hard to keep track these days.

Right now, the Rams have two day 2 picks (Rounds 2 and 3). They are projected to pick up another 3rd round comp pick (and a 4th) after losing Saffold and Joyner to FA. So they will probably have 3 picks in the Top 100.

[actionjack]

It was funny, I listened to bay area sports talk last night on my way home from work. The topic was how do the niners move forward in the future, with the major salaries/signings needed to be done. The main subject was how could the niners mimic the Patriot Way versus the Rams signing all the big contracts. The gist of it was the Patriot Way sounds like the natural thing to try to emulate but then what do you do with Deforest Buckner ready for a big payday, Armstead a payday and Kittle next year among others. The niners are gonna face some really tough decisions soon.

Sidebar, IMO we arent stuck with Goff, we have our QB. Yes he has missed some throws, but overall I like what I see. The problems is routes are getting open like before and the o-line has played near the bottom to the league. I would really like to see the young line get time together and gel.