[sloramfan]

sorry to disagree...

but you guys are full of bullshit...

the team is letting us down... and that includes the coaching

goff is pretty good...

go rams

slo

[snackdaddy]

Things aren't going well this year for Goff or McVay. Or Gurley. There was a time when the Rams organization could do no wrong. Now its all falling apart. And in this instant gratification society we live in, its not like anyone's willing to wait and see if things get better.

One thing I can tell you, if fans were in control of hiring and firing you would see a dozen coaches around the league get fired every week.

[moklerman]

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Also when you realize Blake Bortles is the backup plan!

I guess that would provide a certain amount of continuity, though.

[SWAdude]

Newsflash. He was never that good. Remember the Atlanta playoff game when he played like shit or the last two months last year. Guy made a couple throws in the NFC title game as people thought he was some god.

He’s been terrible this year even after acknowledging the shortcomings. He has misfired on 6-7 TDs this year. 11/12 TD/INT ratio. Fucking garbage. He’s been inaccurate. Skitterish in pocket. Trading up for him was the first mistake. But he was schemed and coached up. Give em credit. Give mcmartz credit there. But somewhere towards the end of last year he got exposed. The super bowl he lost. He was pathetic that game. Then he gets rewarded with a massive extension for zero reason. If he wasn’t extended he could play out his option or be traded.

Just idiotic. Guy isn’t a leader either. He comes off as soft.

Honestly a harsh post.

And honestly can't disagree today.

Hope I am blind to something.

This contractually can become a long term problem if not otherwise.

[R4L]

Also when you realize Blake Bortles is the backup plan!

I guess that would provide a certain amount of continuity, though.

At this point I'd like to see what Bortles has to offer. He's another guy that had over 30 tds then fell off the map.

I always look back to Jim Everett in 1990. He was expected to take off and the best was yet to come! Remember? Yeah Everett sucked bad that year because the line got old.

He looked terrible and never really bounced back. Like sw said, you don't want this to get worse. With Everett it did get worse. Hoping Goff gets it together but I'm not holding my breath

[aeneas1]

i'd be the first to jump on the goff sucks bandwagon if i thought he was clearly the prob, clearly the guy responsible for holding this offense back, but the bleak reality is the offense has been an inconsistent mess across the board this season... for starters, look at rams yards per carry rankings by down this year vs last year:

2019
1st down - 23rd
2nd down - 22nd
3rd down - 31st
overall - 24th

2018
1st down - 4th
2nd down - 14th
3rd down - 9th
overall - 3rd

the rams lose one fuckin' guard and their oline goes to shit? really? subtract saffold and all of a sudden whit, hav and blythe suck? and noteboom looks like a jag? really? and yes, i'm talking about the huge drop-off before guys started dropping like flies.

the fuckin' niners have played almost half of their games without their 3 top offensive tackles, they've had to resort to two rookies at ot positions, one 6th round rookie and one undrafted rookie... on top of that they're fielding all-world, i'm on my 5th team in 7 years, rams reject mike persons, who has played center and guard for them this year, yet they rolled to 4-0 when they had their rookie tackles + persons manning the store, no bitching about a shitty oline, no excuses, instead they just went out and punched people in the mouth.

speaking of which, olines and running games, look at the niners, they have undrafted jag mostert, undrafted jag breida, and coleman running the ball, yet they've been effective as hell, combining for 4.7 yards per carry, but mcvay can't get shit out of tg, henderson and brown?

anyway, from where i'm sitting goff has indeed had a bad year - and so has the rams running game, the rams oline and, most of all, the rams offensive coaching staff which has failed miserably far too often this year.

the rams offense has been held to 7 or fewer first half points in 5 of their 11 games this year vs 4 times in the 36 games they played from 2017-20178.

mcvay has some offseason work to do.

[R4L]

i'd be the first to jump on the goff sucks bandwagon if i thought he was clearly the prob, clearly the guy responsible for holding this offense back, but the bleak reality is the offense has been an inconsistent mess across the board this season... for starters, look at rams yards per carry rankings by down this year vs last year:

2019
1st down - 23rd
2nd down - 22nd
3rd down - 31st
overall - 24th

2018
1st down - 4th
2nd down - 14th
3rd down - 9th
overall - 3rd

the rams lose one fuckin' guard and their oline goes to shit? really? subtract saffold and all of a sudden whit, hav and blythe suck? and noteboom looks like a jag? really? and yes, i'm talking about the huge drop-off before guys started dropping like flies.

the fuckin' niners have played almost half of their games without their 3 top offensive tackles, they've had to resort to two rookies at ot positions, one 6th round rookie and one undrafted rookie... on top of that they're fielding all-world, i'm on my 5th team in 7 years, rams reject mike persons, who has played center and guard for them this year, yet they rolled to 4-0 when they had their rookie tackles + persons manning the store, no bitching about a shitty oline, no excuses, instead they just went out and punched people in the mouth.

speaking of which, olines and running games, look at the niners, they have undrafted jag mostert, undrafted jag breida, and coleman running the ball, yet they've been effective as hell, combining for 4.7 yards per carry, but mcvay can't get shit out of tg, henderson and brown?

anyway, from where i'm sitting goff has indeed had a bad year - and so has the rams running game, the rams oline and, most of all, the rams offensive coaching staff which has failed miserably far too often this year.

the rams offense has been held to 7 or fewer first half points in 5 of their 11 games this year - from 2017-2018, including postseason games, they were held to 7 or fewer first half points 4 times in 36 games.

mcvay has some offseason work to do.

Good post. Not blaming Goff completely for sure. I blame McVay and his lack of a good game plan when defenses have obviously caught up with him. He's young like you said and should improve with time.

[moklerman]

At this point I'd like to see what Bortles has to offer. He's another guy that had over 30 tds then fell off the map.

I always look back to Jim Everett in 1990. He was expected to take off and the best was yet to come! Remember? Yeah Everett sucked bad that year because the line got old.

He looked terrible and never really bounced back. Like sw said, you don't want this to get worse. With Everett it did get worse. Hoping Goff gets it together but I'm not holding my breath

I agree with your sentiment in that I'd like to establish a baseline for the offense. I mean, I don't really care what Bortles specifically can do but I do want to see what anyone else can do. If the offense improves with someone else at QB then we have more info to work with.

Of course, I'm not necessarily saying they should bench Goff to find out though. Musical chairs at QB rarely improves a team and displaying a lack of faith in Goff would probably do more harm than good right now. But I do think that Goff is leaving positive plays on the field and that has to be corrected somehow.

As far as Everett, that situation was similar but different IMO. Georgia was intentionally gutting the team and letting the foundations erode all around Everett. Everett wound up being the scapegoat but I'd say he still had some good football left in him. He put up solid numbers for some mediocre Saints teams in '94 & '95. Everett's career was over a couple of years after that because of a shoulder injury though.

But, I think Everett himself was better than his numbers the last couple of years with the Rams. He lost that team though. His guys definitely quit playing for him, even Ellard who I saw more than once not give 100% to catch passes. The whole team was paper thin and in freefall though.

[dieterbrock]

I agree with your sentiment in that I'd like to establish a baseline for the offense. I mean, I don't really care what Bortles specifically can do but I do want to see what anyone else can do. If the offense improves with someone else at QB then we have more info to work with.

Of course, I'm not necessarily saying they should bench Goff to find out though. Musical chairs at QB rarely improves a team and displaying a lack of faith in Goff would probably do more harm than good right now. But I do think that Goff is leaving positive plays on the field and that has to be corrected somehow.

As far as Everett, that situation was similar but different IMO. Georgia was intentionally gutting the team and letting the foundations erode all around Everett. Everett wound up being the scapegoat but I'd say he still had some good football left in him. He put up solid numbers for some mediocre Saints teams in '94 & '95. Everett's career was over a couple of years after that because of a shoulder injury though.

But, I think Everett himself was better than his numbers the last couple of years with the Rams. He lost that team though. His guys definitely quit playing for him, even Ellard who I saw more than once not give 100% to catch passes. The whole team was paper thin and in freefall though.

Man. There is so much in there I wholeheartedly agree with. Actually the whole post.
Goff is the QB of the future (thanks guaranteed contract $$) but if there was a way to get Bortles in there without “benching” Goff, I agree it would be cathartic. 1) would show whether the problem is JG or the offense itself and 2) let JG take a step back and see the flow of the game. Bortles isn’t going to play his way in to the starting role, if he plays great? Awesome he might get a nice contract in FA. If he doesn’t? Well let him take the punches while 16 is out of harms way.
Trick is how to pull it off?
On Everett, couldn’t agree more. Probably deserves a thread on its own.
Jimbo didn’t turn trash over night. But the team surely did, thanks Georgia

[ziggy]

Yes. Stop. We may have given him too big a contract. But I’m glad we have Goff.

Who else would you have in his place? There are a few, but that’s just dreaming. There’s a very limited QB market and Goff’s one of the better ones.

We’ll recover and he’s not the problem. His salary on the other hand...