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 by laram
9 years 6 months ago
 Total posts:   444  
 Joined:  Sep 30 2015
United States of America   LA Coliseum
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den-the-coach wrote:
dieterbrock wrote:Well, not taking away Den's thunder but Richt was gone with anything short of an SEC title this year
Never figured Shotty could save Richt, but the truth is that he didnt get him fired either


I know, but it's sure nice to be right once in a while! Never forgave Fisher for hiring Schottenheimer over Hue Jackson just did not understand why Fisher went in that direction. Oh well, Rob Boras next man up and maybe Schotty can land a job at Maryland. That's almost south and I'm betting D. J. Durkin does not have a clue about offense.



Hue Jackson or any other OC you name, will do squat w/o an NFL caliber qb.

Let's see how Huey looks with AJ McCarron at the helm.

 by dieterbrock
9 years 6 months ago
 Total posts:   11512  
 Joined:  Mar 31 2015
United States of America   New Jersey
Hall of Fame

laram wrote:
den-the-coach wrote:
dieterbrock wrote:Well, not taking away Den's thunder but Richt was gone with anything short of an SEC title this year
Never figured Shotty could save Richt, but the truth is that he didnt get him fired either


I know, but it's sure nice to be right once in a while! Never forgave Fisher for hiring Schottenheimer over Hue Jackson just did not understand why Fisher went in that direction. Oh well, Rob Boras next man up and maybe Schotty can land a job at Maryland. That's almost south and I'm betting D. J. Durkin does not have a clue about offense.



Hue Jackson or any other OC you name, will do squat w/o an NFL caliber qb.

Let's see how Huey looks with AJ McCarron at the helm.

Hue Jackson had Jason Campbell looking pretty good, that says a lot. McCarron looked pretty good on Sunday for a bit. Real interested to see how he progresses

 by laram
9 years 6 months ago
 Total posts:   444  
 Joined:  Sep 30 2015
United States of America   LA Coliseum
Starter

Well Jason actually played better as a Redskin.

But we'll see what he does with McCarron while the game is still in question.

Btw I don't think Jackson and Fisher would have worked at all.

Hue has a tendency to get too cute with his ply calling.

That IMO would have caused some issues.

Similar to Fisher hiring Norm Chow in Tenny. Doomed from the start.

 by Stranger
9 years 6 months ago
 Total posts:   3213  
 Joined:  Aug 12 2015
United States of America   Norcal
Superstar

laram wrote:Well Jason actually played better as a Redskin.

But we'll see what he does with McCarron while the game is still in question.

Btw I don't think Jackson and Fisher would have worked at all.

Hue has a tendency to get too cute with his ply calling.

That IMO would have caused some issues.

Similar to Fisher hiring Norm Chow in Tenny. Doomed from the start.


Then who are you suggesting?

 by laram
9 years 6 months ago
 Total posts:   444  
 Joined:  Sep 30 2015
United States of America   LA Coliseum
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Stranger wrote:
laram wrote:Well Jason actually played better as a Redskin.

But we'll see what he does with McCarron while the game is still in question.

Btw I don't think Jackson and Fisher would have worked at all.

Hue has a tendency to get too cute with his ply calling.

That IMO would have caused some issues.

Similar to Fisher hiring Norm Chow in Tenny. Doomed from the start.


Then who are you suggesting?


I would start with a new head coach, and go from there.

 by dieterbrock
9 years 6 months ago
 Total posts:   11512  
 Joined:  Mar 31 2015
United States of America   New Jersey
Hall of Fame

laram wrote:Well Jason actually played better as a Redskin.

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Um, no. More consistant maybe, but played on much better teams.

In 52 career games in Washington, he had a total of 10 100+ passer rating games 19%
In 18 career games in Oakland, 6 of which were over 100 for 33.3%

Hue got a lot out of a guy who was basically a bust on a lousy team

Sounds just like the kind of coach we need.....

 by Hacksaw_64
9 years 6 months ago
 Total posts:   2686  
 Joined:  Sep 08 2015
United States of America   Inglewood, CA
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laram wrote:
den-the-coach wrote:
dieterbrock wrote:Well, not taking away Den's thunder but Richt was gone with anything short of an SEC title this year
Never figured Shotty could save Richt, but the truth is that he didnt get him fired either


I know, but it's sure nice to be right once in a while! Never forgave Fisher for hiring Schottenheimer over Hue Jackson just did not understand why Fisher went in that direction. Oh well, Rob Boras next man up and maybe Schotty can land a job at Maryland. That's almost south and I'm betting D. J. Durkin does not have a clue about offense.



Hue Jackson or any other OC you name, will do squat w/o an NFL caliber qb.

Let's see how Huey looks with AJ McCarron at the helm.


Agreed, and to some extent the same could be said about the HC. And this isn't an attempt to defend Fisher. I'm just saying the QB position trumps all others in terms of importance. Who we get at QB is going to be more important than either OC or HC.

 by dieterbrock
9 years 6 months ago
 Total posts:   11512  
 Joined:  Mar 31 2015
United States of America   New Jersey
Hall of Fame

Hacksaw_64 wrote:
Agreed, and to some extent the same could be said about the HC. And this isn't an attempt to defend Fisher. I'm just saying the QB position trumps all others in terms of importance. Who we get at QB is going to be more important than either OC or HC.


No doubt.

Fisher has had 6 QB take snaps
Bradford
Davis
Clemens
Hill
Foles
Keenum

And the reality is that the best QB play we've seen in his tenure (and I use the term "best" loosely)
came from 3 guys who Fisher didnt pick. (Bradford, Davis and Clemens)
The 3 worst QB, are the guys he brought in although Keenum might be able to put up an arguement....

 by laram
9 years 6 months ago
 Total posts:   444  
 Joined:  Sep 30 2015
United States of America   LA Coliseum
Starter

Hacksaw_64 wrote:
laram wrote:
den-the-coach wrote:
I know, but it's sure nice to be right once in a while! Never forgave Fisher for hiring Schottenheimer over Hue Jackson just did not understand why Fisher went in that direction. Oh well, Rob Boras next man up and maybe Schotty can land a job at Maryland. That's almost south and I'm betting D. J. Durkin does not have a clue about offense.



Hue Jackson or any other OC you name, will do squat w/o an NFL caliber qb.

Let's see how Huey looks with AJ McCarron at the helm.


Agreed, and to some extent the same could be said about the HC. And this isn't an attempt to defend Fisher. I'm just saying the QB position trumps all others in terms of importance. Who we get at QB is going to be more important than either OC or HC.


I dunno Hack, I have absolutely NO faith in Jeff Fisher as a head coach.

He had McNair winning league MVP and still couldn't win it all.

In 21 seasons you only make it to the SB on the wings of a Hail Mary (Music City Miracle), you ain't very good IMO.

That Buddy Ryan tree is dry rot. lol

 by Stranger
9 years 6 months ago
 Total posts:   3213  
 Joined:  Aug 12 2015
United States of America   Norcal
Superstar

laram wrote:
Stranger wrote:
laram wrote:Well Jason actually played better as a Redskin.

But we'll see what he does with McCarron while the game is still in question.

Btw I don't think Jackson and Fisher would have worked at all.

Hue has a tendency to get too cute with his ply calling.

That IMO would have caused some issues.

Similar to Fisher hiring Norm Chow in Tenny. Doomed from the start.


Then who are you suggesting?


I would start with a new head coach, and go from there.


So, Fish is the problem, not Hue? Hey, I'm trying to just figure out what you're advocating here. If this is correct, than I agree with you :)

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