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 by max
9 years 7 months ago
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United States of America   Sarasota, FL
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Dick84 wrote:I would read it as good news if I was from Stl.

On top of that... Vinny just tweeted it's one in a series of conversations between the two.


I can see that.

But we really don't know what it means yet.

I do remember hearing that Kroenke would never meet with them until the STL plan was actionable. So this is curious.

 by SoCalRam78
9 years 7 months ago
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United States of America   SoCal
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Dick84 wrote:I would read it as good news if I was from Stl.

On top of that... Vinny just tweeted it's one in a series of conversations between the two.


I wouldn't read into it unless we know what was discussed, and we don't nor will we ever. So it's just reading more tea leaves. Kroenke may just be checking off another box for all we know. Benjamin Albright tweeted that Kroenke is doing his due diligence.

https://twitter.com/AllbrightNFL/status/671500595052732416

I'm sure Bernie will run with it though.

 by Rams the Legends live on
9 years 7 months ago
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United States of America   Colorado Springs
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Yea should be interesting to see what Bernie makes of this.

 by ramfaninsd
9 years 7 months ago
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Philippines   san diego
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just stan checking off his own boxes. :D

 by Stranger
9 years 7 months ago
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United States of America   Norcal
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max wrote:
Dick84 wrote:I would read it as good news if I was from Stl.

On top of that... Vinny just tweeted it's one in a series of conversations between the two.


I can see that.

But we really don't know what it means yet.

I do remember hearing that Kroenke would never meet with them until the STL plan was actionable. So this is curious.

Perhaps ESK is sending a message to the NFL. Namely, that if they don't approve the LA plan (ie. ESK's plan) then he's prepared to stay in StL - which I can't beleive the NFL wants. I mean if ESK doesn't build an LA Stadium, then how does the NFL get into LA any time soon, and how does Goodhell and the owners get measurably closer to their $25B/yr annual revenue goal?

When you boil the whole thing down, the NFL and its owners have very little leverage here, no matter what the media noise is. Getting to $25B/yr means leveraging ESK's wealth to build an NFL Disneyland in Los Angeles, and everyone has gotta understand this, even the Spanos.

The only thing that makes sense here is that ESK gets EVERYTHING he wants, and at some point a 2nd team joins him in LA as a tenant. Unless I'm missing something? How else does the NFL take this quick of a step toward it's long term revenue goals? Is there another scenario that works. Guys?

 by Hacksaw
9 years 7 months ago
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United States of America   AT THE BEACH
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No kidding Dick, who knows. This timing of this meeting obviously has something to do with the upcoming meeting.
The fact that Peacock was there but not in the meeting (allegedly) makes me think that ESK isn't interested in hearing the task force pitch. or ESK might not want any surprises at the owners meeting. or He may be required to meet as it shows good faith per relocation protocol, or ESK is trying to defuse the StL pitch prior the meeting by letting him know to what extent he is willing to go to move, or what concessions he could offer StL to back off.
The most obvious though is that they are working out the preliminary details for an alternate stadium in StLoo and getting the StL task force to back off on the Gnat. Or that he is in acceptance of the Gnat proposal now that the Boa is about to approve it's funding.

This I doubt unless the NFL has let ESK know he's out of the LA plans which I also doubt.

There have been numerous articles / tweets stating things like the LA committee favoring Carson, BoA to announce tomorrow, yada yada. I doubt that is behind this planned meeting as much of that intell wasn't available a few weeks ago when the meetings were arranged,,,, at least to us.

I imagine this is going to be a rough week for all Rams fans everywhere,.

 by Hacksaw
9 years 7 months ago
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Stranger wrote:
max wrote:
Dick84 wrote:I would read it as good news if I was from Stl.

On top of that... Vinny just tweeted it's one in a series of conversations between the two.


I can see that.

But we really don't know what it means yet.

I do remember hearing that Kroenke would never meet with them until the STL plan was actionable. So this is curious.

Perhaps ESK is sending a message to the NFL. Namely, that if they don't approve the LA plan (ie. ESK's plan) then he's prepared to stay in StL - which I can't believe the NFL wants. I mean if ESK doesn't build an LA Stadium, then how does the NFL get into LA any time soon, and how does Goodhell and the owners get measurably closer to their $25B/yr annual revenue goal?

When you boil the whole thing down, the NFL and its owners have very little leverage here, no matter what the media noise is. Getting to $25B/yr means leveraging ESK's wealth to build an NFL Disneyland in Los Angeles, and everyone has gotta understand this, even the Spanos.

The only thing that makes sense here is that ESK gets EVERYTHING he wants, and at some point a 2nd team joins him in LA as a tenant. Unless I'm missing something? How else does the NFL take this quick of a step toward it's long term revenue goals? Is there another scenario that works. Guys?


I've asked but never been answered, does the NFL make more money with 16 home games in LA per year or 8 (Rams only). Carson and CoC both offer that,, so even. 2 relocation fees is something but Carson and CoC offer that too. Even again.

Our understanding of the Carson situation is that it is a dog that MIGHT eventually get approval to build on. It's the owners understanding (not ours) that matters, so I hope we are right and the owners are on the same page.

Watching the NFL games on DTV Iv'e noticed a lot of empty seats around the league. Not as bad as in StLoo or SD but more than I'm used to seeing. The league would be nuts to drop 2 teams into LA at once right now. They might do it but that would be shortsighted and risky at best.
Different strokes for different folks but I can't believe any of them would be behind Carson straight up vs CoC.

Other than Spanos's buddies. But that is bad business and everyone knows it. Irsay was quoted in print speaking to that.

So at this Rams Park meeting, who is bringing the message? Who called for it? ESK or the TF? The fact that it was at Rams Park tells me Nixon is not in the drivers seat. And what could Nixon possibly offer ESK that would make a difference now? This thing is almost done.

My guess is that Nixon wanted to make a last minute pitch in an attempt to sway ESK before the meeting and Stan asked Peacock to stay outside.

 by Hacksaw
9 years 7 months ago
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Martin Kilcoyne ‏@martinkilcoyne2

JT with the scoop. My sources tell me that Kroenke asked for the meeting. #rams #nfl

Martin Kilcoyne ‏@martinkilcoyne2

per sources....#rams owner Stan Kroenke has had talks with Governor Nixon prior to today's meeting at Rams Park. #fox2

 by dieterbrock
9 years 7 months ago
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United States of America   New Jersey
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Hacksaw wrote:Martin Kilcoyne ‏@martinkilcoyne2

JT with the scoop. My sources tell me that Kroenke asked for the meeting. #rams #nfl

Martin Kilcoyne ‏@martinkilcoyne2

per sources....#rams owner Stan Kroenke has had talks with Governor Nixon prior to today's meeting at Rams Park. #fox2


Don't know what to make of that. But it definitely doesn't sit well for move to LA

 by sloramfan
9 years 7 months ago
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United States of America   cen coast cal
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due diligence...

go rams

slo

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