[Hacksaw]

This next meeting should be to firm up what they are likely already leaning towards. I am with the hopes that our common sense scenario is the real deal. A vote for Carson would then establish a territory for those chosen and going rogue or building anyway might meet greater resistance. If he is going to dig, He better start before a decision is made imo.

The meeting being in Jerruhs place is good for our side after the owners take in the grandeur of the Dallas stadium and listen to his pitch for Stan
Fingers crossed.

It's getting down to the Nitty Gritty lady and gentlemen.

[SoCalRam78]

I thought the Rams would move, now I don't see ANY team in LA next year. I guess I should have taken the easy money, the NFL f'ing it up. That's the route they take best. These guys don't want to pit one owner against another and since Spanos and Fabiani have been successful in mucking up SK's plan through their Carson bullshit, no team will move I feel. I think the Raiders honestly won't care much, Spanos gets to buy more time or whatever and he'll be happy no team is in LA. Kroenke, don't know. May spell the end of a Rams' move. Can the Inglewood project survive another year? Is he really going to go rogue? Not every owner does this just because Al Davis did.

[Hacksaw]

I thought the Rams would move, now I don't see ANY team in LA next year. I guess I should have taken the easy money, the NFL f'ing it up. That's the route they take best. These guys don't want to pit one owner against another and since Spanos and Fabiani have been successful in mucking up SK's plan through their Carson bullshit, no team will move I feel. I think the Raiders honestly won't care much, Spanos gets to buy more time or whatever and he'll be happy no team is in LA. Kroenke, don't know. May spell the end of a Rams' move. Can the Inglewood project survive another year? Is he really going to go rogue? Not every owner does this just because Al Davis did.

As much as I expected and called the ramped up efforts by the Inglewood opponents, I too am having a difficult time hearing so many opposite points of view and arguments for the other owners and cities involve.

For those of us who called this whole thing years ago, it is getting exhausting. Most of the reason we felt it would happen was because the owner wanted to, (or at least appeared that was until the announcement).
What we didn't expect was for Spanos to throw a tizzy fit about it.

Now in the final hours of all this, the hint of a delay conjures up another rash of speculation. The narrative is being questioned. The energy to keep it up is waning.

Common sense says if the league want the NFL in LA then the Rams makes the most sense on most fronts.
StL vs San Diego. San Diego hands down.
What's to lose to let Spanos keep on trying? Only Spanos cares because he'd risk being a 2nd fiddle owner as opposed to a 2nd fiddle renter. But Dean it's about cash flow and ROI. You aren't investing in Inglewood so the whole deal would be gravy albeit lesser team value.

[Stranger]

As much as I expected and called the ramped up efforts by the Inglewood opponents, I too am having a difficult time hearing so many opposite points of view and arguments for the other owners and cities involve.

For those of us who called this whole thing years ago, it is getting exhausting. Most of the reason we felt it would happen was because the owner wanted to, (or at least appeared that was until the announcement).
What we didn't expect was for Spanos to throw a tizzy fit about it.

For reasons that are outside the scope of this forum, I've witnessed 1st hand, and partly from behind the scenes, how a national issue is deliberately obliterated into a swamp of endless and meaningless noise, creating an environment where it is virtually impossible for the public to discern or even understand the truth (whatever that is). It's hard watching this story, but it is illuminating and I believe can be used as insight into how issues - all issues - can be turned into swamp grass where no one is able to find which blade is the one to follow. It's maddening alright, but I've found that this is what can happen when powerful interests seek to manipulate the public in order to push their own agenda. I've learned to pretty much turn it ALL off and to just ask myself what makes sense, and then to draw my own conclusions about the long term play, ignoring all of the machinations.

[bluecoconuts]

Today Fred was saying that a lot of the noise is being put out by Fabiani (which makes sense given his resume) in order to delay and confuse things. He pointed out that a lot of what was being put out (including this article) he mentioned a long time ago. He also said that his sources have said that they really want to get things done now, they're sick of waiting. He said that it's his belief that Carson's aim is to delay Inglewood, and create confusion in order to help Spanos get his way... Without Carson and pressure from Carson, Spanos has no leverage to get a better deal (either in Inglewood or San Diego) for himself.

[Stranger]

help Spanos get his way

What exactly does he want? Does anyone really know?

[SoCalRam78]

Fabiani and Spanos have been successful in their ability to screw up everything, which was their goal. The Rams/Inglewood had all the momentum. Although perception isn't reality, I don't know the inner workings of the owners. If they want to punt on it, they will. Historically, this is where and how LA fails. Momentum squashed. SK has given them everything, a wealthy owner with a great plan and solid financials. A market will get hurt obviously with relocation. Yet it's not enough. A year changes NOTHING.

[Hacksaw]

A year changes a few things for Spanos and StL. I'm not sure if they are positive since votes will be involved. Certain Mayors won't be in office either.

The NFL can't leave this up in the air another year or certain fan bases are going to become irreversibly destroyed. .

[SoCalRam78]

a year helps SD get a vote

[bluecoconuts]

help Spanos get his way

What exactly does he want? Does anyone really know?

I don't think he knows what he wants. He reminds me of a child to be honest. He doesn't want his toy, but he doesn't want anyone else to have it either.