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 by Hacksaw
9 years 8 months ago
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United States of America   AT THE BEACH
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Ms Green's twitter feed

https://twitter.com/MeganEllyia

 by Hacksaw
9 years 8 months ago
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 Joined:  Apr 15 2015
United States of America   AT THE BEACH
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10 The following proposition shall be submitted to the qualified
11 voters of the City of St. Louis:

12 Shall the City of St. Louis be authorized to enter
13 into an agreement with the Regional Convention and Sports
14 Complex Authority for the purpose of providing financial
15 assistance in connection with the construction and/or operation
16 of a new sports and entertainment facility to be located within
17 the City of St. Louis?

18 SECTION TWO. Said proposition shall be submitted to
19 the voters of the City of St. Louis at the March 15, 2016
20 election.
The Board of Aldermen shall submit the ballot measure
21 to the St. Louis Board of Elections to submit to the qualified
22 voters of the City of St. Louis no later than January 5, 2016.


That (bolded) timing kills any thought of keeping the Rams in St Louis. This bill could be met with a line more stout than ours.

Locals think " it's safe to assume Vollmer, Coatar, and Hubbard will support killing the Bill while Cohn and Ogilvie will push for it.
I don't know enough about Flowers, Krewson, and Tyus to know what to expect from them."
"Would you be concerned that Carter, French, Kennedy, and Ogilvie are all on the Ways and Means committee and all signed that letter opposing the stadium"?

 by Elvis
9 years 8 months ago
 Total posts:   41506  
 Joined:  Mar 28 2015
United States of America   Los Angeles
Administrator

ArizonaBlue wrote:If you're on twitter, her (Alderwoman Meg Green) account today is an interesting read. I'm sure some of the PD posters are the ones upset here on twitter.




Maybe those calls and emails are coming from Mark Fabiani...

 by RedAlice
9 years 8 months ago
 Total posts:   6781  
 Joined:  Aug 07 2015
United States of America   Seattle
Hall of Fame

Looks like they assigned her bill to the Convention and Tourism Committee and are hoping it dies there and is never even voted on. Nothing corrupt going on here, nothing at all.

Here's a chart that shows the bill process with the BoA in St. Louis.

https://www.stlouis-mo.gov/government/d ... /index.cfm

If the bill dies in the committee, it is then never sent back to the BoA for a second reading and vote.

 by Elvis
9 years 8 months ago
 Total posts:   41506  
 Joined:  Mar 28 2015
United States of America   Los Angeles
Administrator

Mike Florio is the king of the snarky last sentence:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... s-stadium/

Effort coming to force public vote on St. Louis stadium

Posted by Mike Florio on October 22, 2015, 8:42 AM EDT

As St. Louis tries to build a new stadium in order to keep the Rams from moving to Los Angeles, an effort to force a public vote will soon begin. Which would as a practical matter derail the effort to build a new stadium in St. Louis.

Via David Hunn of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, several Aldermen will introduce a bill on Friday that would require a vote before $150 million in city funds would be devoted to a proposed $1 billion stadium (which undoubtedly will cost a lot more than that, but they’ll worry about that later, when it’s too late to turn back).

“There’s really a lot of outrage,” said Alderman Meg Green, one of the supporters of the bill. “I know this is probably not what the mayor’s office wants.”

Indeed it’s not. Mayor Francis Slay’s office says a public vote will keep a stadium from being built — which will guarantee a departure by the Rams.

The co-chair of the task force charged with coming up with a stadium plan said he welcomes a public vote. As long as it’s done quickly.

“[A]nything pushing City approval past late November puts this project and retaining our team at risk,” Dave Peacock told Hunn.

It’s unlikely that a citywide vote could be accomplished in that kind of a time frame. Which means that, regardless of whether the citizens of St. Louis would approve the expenditure of $150 million in city funds for a stadium primarily to be used by a man whose billions are equaled or exceeded by his wife’s billions, any plan for a public vote would be relevant not to keeping the Rams but luring another team away from another city.

You know, like the way St. Louis lured the Rams away from Los Angeles in the first place.

 by OldSchool
9 years 8 months ago
 Total posts:   1750  
 Joined:  Jun 09 2015
United States of America   LA Coliseum
Pro Bowl

He is the king of the last liner but he's absolutely correct with this one. And you won't get anybody in the St Louis area to admit it.

 by The Ripper
9 years 8 months ago
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 Joined:  May 13 2015
United States of America   Naples, FL
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Hacksaw wrote:The aldermen are setting themselves up for a no vote. If they don't get a public vote I can't see some of them agreeing to it. Does an alderman vote have to be unanimous though?


They only need 15 votes to pass a bill. The alderman are in a tough position because no matter what they do they lose. If they kill the bill or pass one for a public vote then they will be blamed for the Rams leaving. If they pass the bill for the stadium financing without a vote of the residents they will have angered a large portion of their constituents on a proposal that will be rejected by the NFL and Kroenke.

 by Hacksaw
9 years 8 months ago
 Total posts:   24523  
 Joined:  Apr 15 2015
United States of America   AT THE BEACH
Moderator

The Ripper wrote:
Hacksaw wrote:The aldermen are setting themselves up for a no vote. If they don't get a public vote I can't see some of them agreeing to it. Does an alderman vote have to be unanimous though?


They only need 15 votes to pass a bill. The alderman are in a tough position because no matter what they do they lose. If they kill the bill or pass one for a public vote then they will be blamed for the Rams leaving. If they pass the bill for the stadium financing without a vote of the residents they will have angered a large portion of their constituents on a proposal that will be rejected by the NFL and Kroenke.


Sounds to me that they need to take the path of least resistance or which favors the most people. Without a vote that cant be known but do the math on the populace vs Rams fans and I think the answer would be clear. The rhetoric about stadium improving StL not withstanding.

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