[SWAdude]

Yeah, I remember back in the '80s when my wife and I moved into our apartment in Costa Mesa, they told us we didn't need air conditioning because being that close to the coast, the ocean breezes provided all the cooling anybody could want. And then summers came, and it was hot for weeks at a time, and where were those ocean breezes? At the beach, maybe, but not 7 miles from there at our apartment. And the Santa Anas? Forget about it. Breezy, yes, but hot like a furnace.

Regarding Inglewood, what I'm really wondering about is those statements that the clear roof will actually make the air cooler, rather than warmer. How does that work, exactly? I know that ETFE is a polymer, not glass, but it's still clear. How about convection? What am I missing?

Hard to say what your particular situation was in Costa Mesa. I lived in Newport and once in a while turned a fan on and I am VERY sensitive to heat.

Inglewood has s a cover. It will be like a shade with plenty of ventilation. Many more bright, experienced minds have taken these issues into close consideration and I trust this one has not been overlooked.

[trony]

I hope the PSL's for the new Rams Stadium do not go up any further because of this.

[Elvis]

[Elvis]

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Way We Hear It: NFL concerned about Los Angeles Chargers' ability to sell tickets

L.A.'s 'second team' can't fill all its seats in tiny temporary soccer stadium
FOLLOW @PFWEEKLYBy ERIC EDHOLM - [email protected]
Published: Sept. 15, 2017 — 1:05 p.m.

At a seating capacity of 27,000 for football games, the Los Angeles Chargers' temporary home — the StubHub Center in Carson, Calif. — is the smallest in the NFL. But the Chargers might also be one of the easier tickets to find in the league this season, and that would be a bad sign for both the franchise and the league long term.

We hear that a few NFL executives have been concerned about the viability of the Chargers existing as second fiddle to the Rams in Los Angeles ever since the franchise announced its relocation from San Diego earlier this off season. And with news that single-game tickets remain available for every Chargers home game currently, the league's fears might be playing out.

The drive from San Diego to Carson is about 110 miles, but it doesn't appear that fans — many of whom felt jilted by the franchise not working out a deal locally — will be making the trek in droves this season. The Chargers operated at about 80 percent capacity last season at Qualcomm Stadium, at an average attendance just north of 57,000 per game.

The Chargers might fill a higher percentage of seats at their new rental home, but it realistically could draw less than half the fans per game this season than it did in 2016. The team has tried to roll out the proverbial red carpet for season-ticket holders since the move, offering perks and promotions as a way to drum up interest. But with what appears to be a soft secondary and individual ticket market, the 0-1 Chargers are starting their home slate with little buzz.

League officials are closely monitoring the situation, we're told, and are prepared to do what they can to help the situation, even if there's only so much manipulation that can be done at this point. The Chargers play opposite the Rams at the same time 12 miles up the road from the LA Memorial Coliseum on Sunday for their season opener, which could explain the slow action on secondary tickets on websites such as — quite ironically — StubHub.

Paid attendance for the Rams' season opener was 60,128 at the 93,605-seat Coliseum, but it appeared far more sparsely attended than that to the naked eye. The Rams generated some hype following their Week 1 blowout over the Indianapolis Colts but clearly remain a product that the locals are buying into slowly en masse. And the Rams came back to L.A. last season with a lot more tailwind, needing a mere six hours to sell 70,000 season tickets last year.

The feeling locally is that the Chargers set their 2017 tickets too high and have driven buyer interest down. The theory behind it originally was that there might be some intrigue with the NFL playing two seasons, this one and next, in a cozy venue used mostly for soccer. The team also felt the need to make up for potential lost revenue with fewer seats. That gamble, it appears, might not pay off.

The Chargers will move in as tenants of the Rams' new Inglewood stadium, which is set to open for the 2020 season, where they'll most certainly be the other team in town. That stadium at Hollywood Park is set to have a capacity of just over 70,000 for typical NFL games, with a greater volume for bigger events such as the Super Bowl.

Imagine what it might look like for a Chargers game there if attendance and interest don't spike significantly. It won't help, either, that two of the team's most recognizable stars — QB Philip Rivers and TE Antonio Gates — could be well into retirement by that point.

Empty stadiums, even if it's only a handful of venues around the league, are a bad look in the NFL's eyes. It weakens the product, both locally and nationally. Free agents might be less inclined to sign with a franchise that right now cannot fill the NFL's smallest shed. Yes, the league makes a significant chunk of its revenue from the TV contracts, but those are up in a few years and are not guaranteed to be as fruitful as they previously have.

[Hacksaw]

Bolt's should have stayed in SD. It might work out but if they don't win a bunch, I think they are going to be in a pickle. Especially if the Rams start winning..

Poooor Deano. lol

[St. Loser Fan]

I know they'll never do it, but the Thursday night games really watered down the product and should be eliminated.

[bubbaramfan]

NFL and the Chargers continue to ignore the simple answer. Lowert the ticket prices, make it more affordable for families to go to a game.

Charger - Dolphin game cheapest seat is over 100$. For a guy like me, no way I can afford to bring a couple of my grandkids to a game.

Their greed is blinding them.

[majik]

Going from a stadium where you consistently drew 60,000 per game to one that maxs out at 27,000 forces you to raise prices.

60,000 x 50 average tix equals 3,000,000 per game

27,000 x 100 average tix equals 2,700,000 per game

[St. Loser Fan]

[Hacksaw]

Los Angeles Chargers startled by throng of Miami Dolphins fans

Joe Schad
September 17, 2017 2017 Regular season.


CARSON, Calif. — The first Los Angeles Chargers game at the StubHub Center seemed like a neutral-site game.

And the Chargers players noticed.

“It was crazy, there were a lot of Chargers fans and there were also a lot of Miami fans,” Chargers running back Melvin Gordon said. “I think it was around 50-50, but it was nice to see a full house.”

The slew of orange and aqua was stunning, even well before kickoff.

Quarterback Philip Rivers did not seem surprised.

“I felt like it was an into-it crowd,” Rivers said. “The environment was exciting. There certainly were a lot of Dolphins fans. I think we’re fairly used to that. We’re fairly used to the opposing team traveling well, but I thought the energy in the stadium was good. Definitely a little easier environment than what it was last week in Denver.”

For some reason, the Los Angeles Chargers and Los Angeles Rams were both at home on Sunday.

The first-ever game of the new Los Angeles Chargers in the Los Angeles-area wasn’t sold out.

Will it ever change?

“I hope so,” Rivers said. “I think it’s always been a little bit of something you battle. We battled down in San Diego. I think just obviously, the weather, the climate, lends to that. If I was somewhere else and was a fan picking a road game to go to, this would be a destination.”

The Dolphins, in general, travel well as a fan base.

“It was perfect for us,” Dolphins receiver Jarvis Landry said. “I’m always so happy when we touch L.A. because we always get a good turnout. It’s always good to take over somebody else’s stadium.”

It was sort of sad to hear Rivers describe the loudest sound he heard all day.

“Obviously the loudest road came at the end after the missed field goal,” Rivers said.

Yes, it was the Los Angeles Chargers who missed the field goal.